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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Machmatej said:
keep the agenda pushing bro
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dawg how down bad do yall not want the verse to be ftl in fact i literally already have 3 criteria in mind that proves the lasers are SoL and rody dodging them doesnt disqualify it

im obviously missing something but ion see people complaining about how consistent rela demon slayer is rn 😭
 
JoeDM021 said:
dawg how down bad do yall not want the verse to be ftl in fact i literally already have 3 criteria in mind that proves the lasers are SoL and rody dodging them doesnt disqualify it

im obviously missing something but ion see people complaining about how consistent rela demon slayer is rn 😭
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rela demon slayer is getting nuked soon
 
JoeDM021 said:
dawg how down bad do yall not want the verse to be ftl

im obviously missing something but ion see people complaining about how consistent rela demon slayer is rn 😭
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you haven't been around in any demon slayer powerscaling discussion. it's just full of people making fun of the wiki making demon slayer relativistic. and even as a huge supporter i can agree that's wank. demon slayer is irrelevant anyway since its getting nuked to like MHS
 
Machmatej said:
you haven't been around in any demon slayer powerscaling discussion. it's just full of people making fun of the wiki making demon slayer relativistic. and even as a huge supporter i can agree that's wank. demon slayer is irrelevant anyway since its getting nuked to like MHS
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thats why i said im missing something its js that its so funny that it got accepted in the first place despite the 10x mark being contentious on its own and no supporting feats for it

At least here the only semi contentious thing with flect turns lasers is rody dodging them and nothing else from what i remember
 
JoeDM021 said:
thats why i said im missing something its js that its so funny that it got accepted in the first place despite the 10x mark being contentious on its own and no supporting feats for it

At least here the only semi contentious thing with flect turns lasers is rody dodging them and nothing else from what i remember
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one verse being wanked isn't an excuse to wank everything. and rody dodging something at lightspeed isn't just a semi contentious, it's so inconsistent that it doesn't just go against the narrative, it breaks the whole verse's power scaling. at least in demon slayer's case you have lightning timers being relativistic. in this case, it's someone scaling to a bullet timer being relativistic. huge gap
 
JoeDM021 said:
eh oh well i guess its back to proving flect turns lasers are SoL so i can calc an ftl feat for mha

FTL mha will happen idc
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I know you're a newer user, but I've answered this so many times.

They're literally never called lasers at any point, and his "mirrors" (And clothes in general) are covered in a energy film like oil that reverses reflection. As stated in the actual guidebook for the movie. Energy beams don't equal lasers, and they aren't called lasers at any point.

That's the purpose of his equipment.

Those mirrors are never called mirrors either. They should have reflections on them, but they're just blue. I don't know why people think they're mirrors.

These so called mirror's are literally shown to reverse the reflection of Izuku's attack and help with propelling Flect's punches using that energy. He doesn't just have random mirrors on his person that don't do anything else. They're shown to reflect other things outside of his energy weapon.

The same "mirrors", but smaller, are also shown to make him float as well.
 
57Dev said:
Highly doubt it with Modolo outright giving the verse a light based Cursed Technique
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Dabura's light does not follow the SoL requeriments. So far it's Sub-Relativistic+ at best

The CRT that made the verse Rela to FTL was extremly lazy and barely addressed the scaling issues, so it's def getting nuked (except if Gege give us some SoL statament)
 
TheRustyOne said:
I know you're a newer user, but I've answered this so many times.

They're literally never called lasers at any point, and his "mirrors" (And clothes in general) are covered in a energy film like oil that reverses reflection. As stated in the actual guidebook for the movie. Energy beams don't equal lasers, and they aren't called lasers at any point.

That's the purpose of his equipment.

Those mirrors are never called mirrors either. They should have reflections on them, but they're just blue. I don't know why people think they're mirrors.

These so called mirror's are literally shown to reverse the reflection of Izuku's attack and help with propelling Flect's punches using that energy. He doesn't just have random mirrors on his person that don't do anything else. They're shown to reflect other things outside of his energy weapon.

The same "mirrors", but smaller, are also shown to make him float as well.
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damn alright then

Well ig i still got some other calcs to do
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Dabura's light does not follow the SoL requeriments. So far it's Sub-Relativistic+ at best

The CRT that made the verse Rela to FTL was extremly lazy and barely addressed the scaling issues, so it's def getting nuked (except if Gege give us some SoL statament)
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Yeah but JJK has heavy narration on it's powers . I am 70% sure we will het a outright statement for Dabura.

As much as I hate the idea of Rel+ to FTL Sukuna for the em waves, I can't really say we can disagree with so just because it's far higher than the usual speed of the verse. By this Logic most verses would lose their top speed and AP rating.

I mean where is multi continental and where is galaxy level for OPM.
 
Just for clarification Flect Turns lasers aren’t SOL, they dont fulfill enough requirements and even if they did, 20% lvl characters got tagged by cloud-to-ground lightning but 10% lvl can dodge lightspeed lasers?

Just not possible. Imma setup the CRT for the jet lasers + All Might’s laser tho
 
57Dev said:
Isn't Shinra explicitly at Light speed because going FTL means time travelling ? Also this profile has him kicking away a light speed attack "effortlessly" when he literally states in the same panel that it took countless retry to make it.
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The way it goes is that:

  • Shinra accelerates to lightspeed
  • His body breaks down to particles
  • In particle form he accelerates beyond lightspeed, and because he is moving faster than light, time rewinds
  • This causes his body to reform to right to before it broke down

The quote in the manga:

"You're using your fire powers to accelerate up to lightspeed and stop time. When you get to that speed the shock causes your body to break down into particles.
Then you keep accelerating, go beyond the speed of light and turn back time! When that happens your body goes back to normal."
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So technically when he is materialized he is only moving at lightspeed but he is FTL when his body is de-materilized to particles.
 
Has someone tried calculating Star dodging the Radio waves with anime time frame? That fight is a god send in terms of scaling that should be used more (I still think we need a calc of the nuke using curvature scaling)
 
1000TonsofFun said:
Has someone tried calculating Star dodging the Radio waves with anime time frame? That fight is a god send in terms of scaling that should be used more (I still think we need a calc of the nuke using curvature scaling)
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We don't see it.

We see Tomura attack, Star jump, the jets moving out of the way, and the next frame shows no one else in the wide shot.

You cannot get anything else from Star there. Once she jumps off the jet, nothing else is there. There is nothing else interesting about Star's fight.

What do you mean curvature scaling? That's clearly not the case here. The explosion isn't even close to being comparable to the planet.

There are no space shots that show it.
 
Mommyleona said:
maybe calc stacking isnt the exactly right word for it, but basically saying that Shigaraki is light speed there and using it to calc deku's speed is wrong
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Yeahhh....so there was no calc stacking.

Are you sure?? I did not say Shigaraki is light speed. I said that because he's as fast or even straight up faster than radio waves, we scale him to the speed of radio waves, and radio waves are SOL. It's the same way the OG calc scaled his speed to the fastest sniper bullet,because he is as fast as someone who blitzed said bullet,and others even argued in the comments that he should be scaled higher than that,but that would have brought about the calc stacking you are talking about.
 
MANOFGOD7 said:
Yeahhh....so there was no calc stacking.

Are you sure?? I did not say Shigaraki is light speed. I said that because he's as fast or even straight up faster than radio waves, we scale him to the speed of radio waves, and radio waves are SOL. It's the same way the OG calc scaled his speed to the fastest sniper bullet,because he is as fast as someone who blitzed said bullet,and others even argued in the comments that he should be scaled higher than that,but that would have brought about the calc stacking you are talking about.
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There is no statement like "Shigaraki moves as fast or faster", just a visual feat that shows they scale above a character who's slower yet close.

This is calc stacking. Shigaraki wasn't even moving as well, you can't use snail speed to that, only perception blitz.
 
you guys searching for any kind of MHA upscale:

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I’ll start the laser CRT after I get the abilities CRT wrapped up, if anyone could check it I’d appreciate second thoughts

vsbattles.com

Minor MHA CRT

Been a bit since I made a CRT but here’s some basic changes Deku needs Forcefield Creation as stated he can wrap himself in layers of Blackwhip to stave off lethal blows, and he should also get Weapon Creation for being able to fashion claws out of Blackwhip Bakugou needs Limited Body Control...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

(also if anyone has the scans of Shigaraki tanking the UA electric barrier, I’d appreciate it)
 
Mazdoesstuff said:
I’ll start the laser CRT after I get the abilities CRT wrapped up, if anyone could check it I’d appreciate second thoughts

vsbattles.com

Minor MHA CRT

Been a bit since I made a CRT but here’s some basic changes Deku needs Forcefield Creation as stated he can wrap himself in layers of Blackwhip to stave off lethal blows, and he should also get Weapon Creation for being able to fashion claws out of Blackwhip Bakugou needs Limited Body Control...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com

(also if anyone has the scans of Shigaraki tanking the UA electric barrier, I’d appreciate it)
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Just saying 2 verse mods saw the crt and didn’t vote.

Try your luck with asking @Vietthai96 @KingTempest @Godernet @LephyrTheRevanchist @DarkDragonMedeus
 
57Dev said:
I am watching FMAB for the first time (only one epsiode left)

I was thinking of a match up between Overhaul and Father but then mf turned into a whole ass god.
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I think I tried to do Edward vs Overhaul at one point before MHA guys on his level were buffed up to 8-A+.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I think I tried to do Edward vs Overhaul at one point before MHA guys on his level were buffed up to 8-A+.
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FMA's power gaps are so massive. Like most of the verse is at buliding level, then you have Town level for high tiers. All normal.

Then you suddenly have a Star level character and Truth who is Universal+ but also the most vauge "God" character I have ever seen.
 
The Town level characters in FMA aren't always dishing out 7-C level attacks, notably Pride or Hohenheim. The 7-C ratings are predicated on Philosopher's Stone as a power source so anyone who has one scale to a 7-C feat because they can technically replicate it.

I think MHA has more egregious power gaps tbh. Truth and Father are outliers and no one else scales to either of them.
 
Metalballrun said:
The Town level characters in FMA aren't always dishing out 7-C level attacks, notably Pride or Hohenheim. The 7-C ratings are predicated on Philosopher's Stone as a power source so anyone who has one scale to a 7-C feat because they can technically replicate it.

I think MHA has more egregious power gaps tbh. Truth and Father are outliers and no one else scales to either of them.
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MHA has a pretty Clean Split. There is the Multi city block level scaling chain and the Final Punch Scaling chain where everyone who fought a high end downscales from there.

In most stories a Universe level character doesn't just exist by it's lonesome. Especially a God character which is usually reserved for Final Boss

But Truth stays in the background and his existence isn't really brought up that much. Like you would think people who fuxked around and tried human transmutation throughout history would tell everyone about it.

It would be a pretty big deal if it got out that God exists and he is kinda of a amoral sadistic cosmic jerk.
 
In MHA, a single street fight can involve an at most High 8-C villain and a 6-B pro-hero, with said hero needing to take cover from the villain wielding a weapon that is probably 8-A at most.
What we have with MHA is a constructed scaling chain levels. But the power gaps are completely ridiculous with the AP levels taken at face value. In between 8-A and 6-B/6-A are other scaling chains of High 7-C and Low 7-B that are made to make sense as much as possible but these power gaps are no less incredibly huge.

In FMA, everyone barring a handful of characters are 8-C. The existence of Truth doesn't throw anything in disarray - it is an untouchable supreme being after all. And nobody scales to God Father. They are outliers.

A similar verse is the Naritaverse (containing Durarara!! and Baccano!) where everyone is in Tier 9 and 10, except for one guy who is 3-A.

57Dev said:
But Truth stays in the background and his existence isn't really brought up that much. Like you would think people who fuxked around and tried human transmutation throughout history would tell everyone about it.
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This isn't the thread to talk about it, but the Truth isn't really a well-known deity. Only alchemists who broke an alchemy taboo would ever truly encounter the Truth and none of them would ever really have a reason to try to propagate such thing. There's no benefit to it and society wouldn't really believe it, especially those who have their own religion.
 
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