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I'm afraid if there's any 1-A stuff in HI3, it's only for the Captain which is basically ourselves
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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I’ve heard of theories about Terminus being the player lol
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that would make deliverance kevin 1-A because captains jumped bro too
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Btw can we wank phainon to get bde2 since eh fused with irontomb+WCB and was going to get nous as a head, or is that not how it works to get that
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Not really since it's the Captain's avatars who fought Deliverance Kevin and others, Kiana and the rest are stated here as merely in-game data, they acknowledged that HI3 existed in the real world, atleast in our hearts according to Ai-chan
There's a reason why only the Captain would scale to 1-A which is basically ourselves, unless you want to argue Sparkle being 1-A because she's able to go into the real world and change the script (Himeko's death) back then
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ehh no, but you can update his fusionism where hes basically merged with Irontomb and link the profile
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this is literally how ims sees real space as
and aeons see us as low dimensional game
(i dont remember scan for aeons sadly)
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Yeah but there's levels to this, it's not like everyone would agree its 1-A if its not something like Yumiella before her reincarnation where she genuinely sees her reincarnated world as nothing more than fiction and the staff agreed to it. Heck, something like Kamen Rider is 1-A because they're empowered by the Real World, which is basically ourselves
Endpoint is 1-A because they had Endpoint being qualitative than the universe and the bigger universe and the bigger bigger universe or whatever its called, we genuinely need to namedrop "qualitative" onto this transcendence that its portrayed so obvious everyone would agree to it other than this and Jingliu saying we're just chessboards to them + metaphysical and physical plane differentiation, you KNOW the apex of the Imaginary Space is metaphysical AND THIS WAS NAMEDROPPED and yet for it to even be Low 1-A, its only a possibly like you know this is mental
Unless Edo Star pulled out stuff that makes the Aeons actually view the universe as literal fiction where it just wouldn't affect them at all (obviously there's special cases like Phainon which got empowered by Nanook itself which wouldn't be an antifeat for the 1-A powersource) like it has to be this blatant bro or everyone would just say "aint this just an analogy lol"
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Everyone who can exist in Imaginary Space gets BDE2 whilst in there btw. So all those Anti-Matter Grunts Phainon wiped in the animation where all BDE2 at that moment
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With how Low 1-A works through Imaginary Singularity, there needs to be evidence that its actually qualitative, its actually atleast a R>F difference the same way IPC explained how Benzaitengoku works that its a world within a painting (which funnily enough, this type of thing was discussed to be 1-A on the Expedition 33 general discussion thread)
Like R>F difference where no one is able to discard it being an analogy, that its just so transparent + obvious that if you were against it you would get slimed out by literally everyone and I only see this for the Captain so
Like R>F difference where no one is able to discard it being an analogy, that its just so transparent + obvious that if you were against it you would get slimed out by literally everyone and I only see this for the Captain so
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shouldn't emanators be low 1-A since they can draw power from their path?
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Only Emanators who's able to use the entirety of their Path's powers unfortunately
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So basically the worm
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just a question, would that make anyone low 1-A while inside img space, or more accurately imaginary domains like path space otto church stigma spaces etc?
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So anyone in IS would be low 1A but once in real space they are no longer low 1a and DBE2?
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personally being low 1-A simply bcs ur inside imaginary space be it trough dimensional travel or getting bfred there (Nanook did this to Phainon) i dont rly see it being low 1-A and bde2 unless thats how spaces that are bde2 works
if so you can also argue imaginary constructs being low 1-A because their existence is directly tied there and they are imaginary itself too but this requires me to re read hi3 which im lazy to do so
if so you can also argue imaginary constructs being low 1-A because their existence is directly tied there and they are imaginary itself too but this requires me to re read hi3 which im lazy to do so
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Only the Imaginary Space that is treated as Low 1-A. I’m still iffy about how we treat other Img Spaces or wtvr and if they’re Low 1-A or not but basically just the thing CoF scales to
(Idk the HI3 lore so I’m just assuming it’s consistent btw lol)
Yeah. Like how LOTM characters are 1-A in Astral World but normal in Reality
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Spaces like ottos domain would be low 1-A since thats basically domain made within imaginary space from which he got his imaginary authority after transcending reality (literally how we got 1-B honkai for first time)
Stigma spaces would also be low 1-A from this while also existing withing img space which is how durandal managed to enter stigma space
So like if they can be low 1-A via this but any other tier outside it then sure ill agree
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I have question, does irontomb not have any regeneration, I didn't see it on his page, I thought him being able to come back even if his body was destroyed and Cyrene had to use WCB, and the she had to trap herself in the past to make sure he doesn't return, is that not regen?
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Irontomb has Khalasna's regeneration, which is Low-Mid level, and Cyrene and Trailblazer destroyed Irontomb beyond its regenerative capabilities
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Did u read the thread…
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I did, I didnt see something convincing. You got low 1A from something unrelated to Low 1A.
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If you think so.
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Didn’t know bro knows more about site scaling standards than the 2 super mods, 1 admins, and 4 thread mods present in the very same thread.
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Well, being something in this site makes your word absolute truth huh? Shocking.
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I mean I don’t think the mods themselves were allat aware about this stuff either, but it ain’t like opposite applies to you or anything
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This is the case, you dont have to make my words as something undeniable nor do I yours.
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Let me frame my point aganist your thread like this. You said imaginary singularity has no dimensions in it, nor it exists within real coordinate space, it is origin of actual space. All cool. Now you referred to its size and it seems you thought that it has no size aka cardinality then should be like proper class. Now there is misunderstanding here. Proper class has a size as it has quantity of members within it. But cannot be defined by cardinals due to cardinal numbers are used to define size of sets and they are too small for proper class. Proper class is collection of every possible element it contains. Like V, since it is collection all sets in existence, there is no collection with greater size than it. And cardinals are chain of transfinite numbers those get larger than previous one it has no larger unincreasable number. A proper class has size, but it is global size dwarfing cardinals, a structure resembling a proper class does have a size and members in it. But its undefined by cardinals. Closest would be the absolute infinity, since it is kind of magnitude that has no infinity greater than it. If imaginary singluraity lack dimension within it, or lacks size, it cant be treated as proper class of dimensions. Thus I think this entity has BDE or is 1A if this dimensionlessness framed as higher reality or quantative superiority.
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Why're the Emanators only 1-B and not 1-B, possibly Low 1-A as well? Is there a reason they don't scale or have they not been updated yet.
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Technically not updated yet but I’ve voiced that I dont agree with that Key nevertheless because it’s also applicable Pathstriders and generally any human in HSR (+ its not combat-applicative)
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As of right now it only applies to Kiana, Khaslana, and The Aeons. Im trying to scale the Ten Stonehearts, Post Fuli Gaze Cyrene, and complete Irontomb to it.
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Ic, is that a separate CRT thing I presume?
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Yea, I plan to remove it in the future, but there already too much stuff too past (CM1 removal for example) so its in the backburner
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Remove as in their AP rating itself or the justification?
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The whole thing. Because “up to 1-B via Path” is just saying that with enough Path Energy they’re capable of affecting Aeons. Which is literally not applicable for AP lol
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I don’t get it. The emanators 1-b rating are consistent. I don’t see why you couldn’t just change the justification regarding “drawing upon from their aeon”
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Just make their 1-B purely statistical by themselves instead from said Path imo
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Because anyone can draw upon an Aeon, even normal humans. So it’s just saying “if this 1-B guy boosts me then I’m 1-B”
Even among the few Emanators with the specific conditions to affect Aeons, they are still extremely limited. Irontomb is only Low 1-A with the specific conditions of being a scepter connected to Nous and only capable of affecting Nous. It’s not some universal thing
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who even mentioned “up to 1-B”? its literally posted as “via path” and the new justifications dont show anything related to affecting aeons
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