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Speed-o'-Sound Sonic vs Sarada Uchiha

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Battle Assumptions
  • Kara Saga Sarada is used
  • Ninja Arc Speed-o'-Sound Sonic is used
  • Battle takes place in Sunagakure
  • Both party starts 500m from each other
  • Speed is equalized
  • SBA otherwise
SaradaSpeed-o'-Sound Sonic
56 Teratons, 5.6 Petatons with Chidori55.6 Teratons

Sarada: TegamiBachi25, DavidTPPM, AlternativePrinciple
Speed-o'-Sound Sonic: Kachon123
 
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I think we need to remember that the Ninja Arc takes place after OPM Season 3, meaning that Flashy Flash has all his abilities that he gained in that season. As a superior swordsman to Iaion, he should have similar reality warping powers.



When you combine that with the amount of frames in OPM Season 3, that means he can execute his attacks in a single frame. Moreover, Sarada's sensory skills and Sharingan would only be able to perceive Flashy Flash's initial frame, which does not actually represent him, only being a PNG of him. Thus, she would not be able to use her hax to defeat Flashy Flash. In addition, fellow S-Class Heroes like Zombieman have shown telekinetic powers and it stands to reason Flashy Flash should have these abilities as well.



Thus, Flashy Flash would simply execute his Absolute Bullshit Technique: Frameless Flashy Flash Slash and cut Sarada into pieces before she has another frame of animation to defend herself using telekinetic slashes done in a single frame.

Flashy Flash negative-diff not even a challenge
 
I think we need to remember that the Ninja Arc takes place after OPM Season 3, meaning that Flashy Flash has all his abilities that he gained in that season. As a superior swordsman to Iaion, he should have similar reality warping powers.



When you combine that with the amount of frames in OPM Season 3, that means he can execute his attacks in a single frame. Moreover, Sarada's sensory skills and Sharingan would only be able to perceive Flashy Flash's initial frame, which does not actually represent him, only being a PNG of him. Thus, she would not be able to use her hax to defeat Flashy Flash. In addition, fellow S-Class Heroes like Zombieman have shown telekinetic powers and it stands to reason Flashy Flash should have these abilities as well.



Thus, Flashy Flash would simply execute his Absolute Bullshit Technique: Frameless Flashy Flash Slash and cut Sarada into pieces before she has another frame of animation to defend herself.

Flashy Flash negative-diff not even a challenge

Counterpoint: Since Sarada moves in 24 fps while post s3 Flashy as a OPM inherently moves at 1 fpm (frame per minute) that gives Sarada a 1440x speed boost which makes her statue the verse
 
Counterpoint: Since Sarada moves in 24 fps while post s3 Flashy as a OPM inherently moves at 1 fpm (frame per minute) that gives Sarada a 1440x speed boost which makes her statue the verse
But Flashy Flash completes all the actions of an episode in a single frame, meaning that one frame contains more action then any of Sarada's individual frames, even if no human can comprehend the amount of actions within Flashy Flash's single frame.
 
But Flashy Flash completes all the actions of an episode in a single frame, meaning that one frame contains more action then any of Sarada's individual frames, even if no human can comprehend the amount of actions within Flashy Flash's single frame.
True however it takes him 20 minutes for that one frame, meanwhile Sarada can move 24 frames worth of actions in 1/24 of a single second so actually Flashy is just unimaginably slow
 
But wouldn't speed equalized mean they only get the same amount of frames to use? And since Flashy Flash only has a single frame, Sarada would be stuck with only 1/24th of her full capabilities?
 
Anyways.
55.6 Teratons compared to Saradas 56 Teratons. A miniscule gap not worth noting.
They're both class P.
Skill? They're roughly equal but I'll give the edge to Flashy because of him fighting garou and sperm and being the most skilled in the hero association which includes folks like... everyone and their damn mom.
From my knowledge, Flashy can amp her speed somehow according to kachon.

Going with Flashy, low-mid diff. He seems to have a bunch better skill.
 
This fight depends if Sarada's sharingan can deal with flash speed boost

No idea how the speed rules would work if Sarada depends of her perception speed amp to win when logically Flash just speed blitz her, but you can debate that I guess
 
Counterpoint: Since Sarada moves in 24 fps while post s3 Flashy as a OPM inherently moves at 1 fpm (frame per minute) that gives Sarada a 1440x speed boost which makes her statue the verse
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I think we need to remember that the Ninja Arc takes place after OPM Season 3, meaning that Flashy Flash has all his abilities that he gained in that season. As a superior swordsman to Iaion, he should have similar reality warping powers.



When you combine that with the amount of frames in OPM Season 3, that means he can execute his attacks in a single frame. Moreover, Sarada's sensory skills and Sharingan would only be able to perceive Flashy Flash's initial frame, which does not actually represent him, only being a PNG of him. Thus, she would not be able to use her hax to defeat Flashy Flash. In addition, fellow S-Class Heroes like Zombieman have shown telekinetic powers and it stands to reason Flashy Flash should have these abilities as well.



Thus, Flashy Flash would simply execute his Absolute Bullshit Technique: Frameless Flashy Flash Slash and cut Sarada into pieces before she has another frame of animation to defend herself using telekinetic slashes done in a single frame.

Flashy Flash negative-diff not even a challenge

Flashy flash FRA
 
From my knowledge, Flashy can amp her speed somehow according to kachon.

Going with Flashy, low-mid diff. He seems to have a bunch better skill.
Sarada can amp her reactions speed with sharingan and attack speed with the use of shunshin or chidor. Both of them being a blitz level amp in speed which can be stacked on one another. Furthermore with chidori Sarada would one shot speed blitz flashy flash while the sharingans precog would make up the difference between Sarada and flashy flash’s skill level

Moreover, Even if she gets blitz from the get go she can use substitution jutsu to escape and than use her superior stealth mastery abilities to hid and catch FF off guard with a chidori, ninjutsu or even Genjutsu
 
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Anyways.
55.6 Teratons compared to Saradas 56 Teratons. A miniscule gap not worth noting.
They're both class P.
Sarada is a lot lower than class P. Tho Flashy doesn't really use grappling or anything of that sort to make it relevant.
Skill? They're roughly equal but I'll give the edge to Flashy because of him fighting garou and sperm and being the most skilled in the hero association which includes folks like... everyone and their damn mom.
Flashy should be more skilled given this is a pretty young Sarada who isn't really comparable to the God tiers in skill.

That being said sharingan is kind of a cheat code here since it basically grants top tier analytical prediction alongside information analysis
From my knowledge, Flashy can amp her speed somehow according to kachon.
I genuinely have no idea where this is from tbh. I don't remember him ever amping his speed, him having any ability that appears to amp his speed, and there isn't any "Statistic Amplification" in his P&A or "higher with" in his speed section.

Sarada on the other hand has both shunshin and chidori.
 
Just putting it out there that sarada 56 teratons is before chakra enhancement so her chakra enhanced fists are very dangerous to flashy on their own.
Also What's flashy answer to genjutsu because while it's not sarada's first move, she does use it sometimes so eventually it's going to happen in the battle
 
Pretty much what Karo said.

She can amp her physicals to do critical damage and also has genjutsu as an option which she does utilize in character. I've no idea how Flashy Flash fights, but I am currently leaning towards Sarada
 
So Flashy is primarily a swordsman, though he can fight barehanded as well. It's honestly a bit difficult to measure his skill because he's primarily a speed merchant, and even his fight against skill demons like Garou and PS were mainly portrayed as a clash of speed.
That being said he should still be significantly more skilled than kid Sarada here. He's said to be the most skilled person in the HA which puts him above other swordsmen like Atomic Samurai and his underlings who have decent skill feats like keeping up with danmaku purely with instincts by sensing it's murderous intent. Plus the guidebook notes he can predict several moves ahead which is supporter by him fighting Garou who has his own analytical prediction himself.


Problem is, his moveset is really limited. He pretty much just swings his sword around, kicks, and punches. Sarada on the other hand has a huge bag of tricks to use to make up for her lack of skill.
We know Uchihas in general have some really good analytical prediction even with a 2 tomoe sharingan (Sarada specifically is said to be superior to kid Sasuke who could "flawlessly read and counter" his opponents moves with it) and the 3rd tomoe straight up shows them their opponents next move ahead of time. It also offers power mimicry so if it becomes viable Sarada can always copy any martial arts he displays.
Then there's the blitz amps of which Sarada has 2. Shunshin which is a standard blitz boost and chidori which blitzes even the user unless they have at least a 2 tomoe sharingan. Combined with the chidori being such a huge boost means Sarada has the potential to one shot.
Lastly she's not shying away from her other abilities. Fire techniques, lightning danmaku, and layered illusions via genjutsu as well as (iirc, I haven't watched Boruto anime in a while) paralysis.

So to conclude my thoughts, while Flashy is the more skilled one here Sarada definitely has the means to make up for it which when combined with her stat boosts gives her a pretty handy advantage. So for now I'll vote her about mid diff
 
I honestly don't like matches with speedsters with speed equalized, it really feels like there's no point. Sarada FRA (though blitz amps can't be used since Flashy Flash is faster)
 
I think Sonic could be a better opponent.

Wincons via blitz boosts can't be used since Flashy is normally way faster.
 
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Sonic has his own speed amps so he won't get blitzed but that's about it. Everything else is basically the same. Sarada still has a much better bag of abilities, sharingan advantage, and I'd even say chidori is still slightly faster than TSB Sonic
 
We know Uchihas in general have some really good analytical prediction even with a 2 tomoe sharingan (Sarada specifically is said to be superior to kid Sasuke who could "flawlessly read and counter" his opponents moves with it)
While Sasuke himself says Sarada is stronger than him when he was a kid, it doesn't seem to be referring to her skill in using sharingan. (iirc)
and the 3rd tomoe straight up shows them their opponents next move ahead of time. It also offers power mimicry so if it becomes viable Sarada can always copy any martial arts he displays.
Sarada doesn't have 3rd tomoe if i remember correctly?
and I'd even say chidori is still slightly faster than TSB Sonic
The current Sonic rised it up to more than 30. And he uses his clones masterfully,

The most troubling thing would be genjutsu imo, as Sonic has no way of countering or knowing anything about it. But as far as i'm aware, Sonic is more than capable of handling anything else from her.
 
While Sasuke himself says Sarada is stronger than him when he was a kid, it doesn't seem to be referring to her skill in using sharingan. (iirc)
No he specifically states she's more skilled as a shinobi which to an Uchiha should inherently include the sharingan as it's their signature shinobi ability.

Sarada doesn't have 3rd tomoe if i remember correctly?
Yes.
The current Sonic rised it up to more than 30. And he uses his clones masterfully,
Sharingan would see right through them so that's fine.
The most troubling thing would be genjutsu imo, as Sonic has no way of countering or knowing anything about it. But as far as i'm aware, Sonic is more than capable of handling anything else from her.
I mean yeah individually for sure. But a skillful combo of danmaku, speed blitz one shot amps, AOE fire style, and chakra enhanced punches all aided by the sharingans precog with occasional paralysis/illusions make it pretty deadly even for Sonic.
 
No he specifically states she's more skilled as a shinobi which to an Uchiha should inherently include the sharingan as it's their signature shinobi ability.
That's not what Sasuke compares though. He's not comparing how she uses Uchiha's gift or Sharingan specifically. Calls her a better shinobi which you can argue for countless things, it's hard to believe he's referring to her usage of sharingan at all.
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Sharingan would see right through them so that's fine.
Can she even keep up?(I mean, not just perception but physical ability). Genos, who was outspeeding Sonic, couldn't even read his movement when he just used four clones.
I mean yeah individually for sure. But a skillful combo of danmaku, speed blitz one shot amps, AOE fire style, and chakra enhanced punches all aided by the sharingans precog with occasional paralysis/illusions make it pretty deadly even for Sonic.
Her danmaku's can be handled, less skillful characters like Iaian could handle 33,333 hair attack with their eyes closed. At worst he can use his shurikens to compete. I'd argue Sonic has superior blitz amp here.

Sonic should be able to handle everything except her genjutsu, which she uses rarely iirc.

It's even likely that he'll just instantly defeat her before those become a factor.
 
That's not what Sasuke compares though. He's not comparing how she uses Uchiha's gift or Sharingan specifically. Calls her a better shinobi which you can argue for countless things, it's hard to believe he's referring to her usage of sharingan at all.
The sharingan is what defines the Uchiha clan as shinobi. It's their core trait and what makes the clan famous as well as feared. You CAN'T argue it to mean countless things unless you're purposely trying to be disingenuous.

Sarada also has tangible evidence of being better with the sharingan. For one she actually researched it and trained with an actual Uchiha (Sasuke himself). And what's even more obvious is that unlike Sasuke who's never used sharingan genjustu in part 1, Sarada could not only use it against her opponents but even on herself by using the reflection of her opponents sword to negate their paralysis.

So if we're looking specifically at sharingan usage then Sarada actually roflstomps kid Sasuke. (also all things aside the statements about the analytical prediction are directly listed about Sarada on her profile as well so this is irrelevant anyway)
Can she even keep up?(I mean, not just perception but physical ability). Genos, who was outspeeding Sonic, couldn't even read his movement when he just used four clones.
Can HE even keep up? Standard shunshin already let's you keep up with your equals while the user can keep up with their own speed. Chidori not only blitzes your equals but even the user. The 2t sharingan can keep up with the chidori. A 3t sharingan can keep up with those who were blitzing a 2t sharingan (like physically dodging and hitting the opponent, not just seeing them).

I feel like Sarada has enough amps here to either keep up and maybe even get the upper hand on Sonic.
Her danmaku's can be handled, less skillful characters like Iaian could handle 33,333 hair attack with their eyes closed. At worst he can use his shurikens to compete.
You know what's the only problem with this argument? That I actually read OPM so I know what it means.

Yeah it was 33,333 strands of hair but it was NOT 33,333 individual attacks as many strands of hair were clumping up together to form a tentacle-like limb to attack. Also they're controlled by a single person so while there was many attacks they all had much lower accuracy.

Saying he can handle 33,333 attacks is like saying Sarada can dodge trillions of attacks because she dodged a single punch and 1 arm is made up of trillions of cells.

Don't get me wrong the feat is still very impressive but you're extremely overblowing it.
I'd argue Sonic has superior blitz amp here.
Well Sarada has 2 on top of much better reaction speed.
Sonic should be able to handle everything except her genjutsu, which she uses rarely iirc.
She's not a genjutsu spammer like Itachi but it's not rarely enough to not use it when it could save her life. She used it against a LOT of people over less.

Especially against another illusion user.
It's even likely that he'll just instantly defeat her before those become a factor.
Lol no
 
The sharingan is what defines the Uchiha clan as shinobi. It's their core trait and what makes the clan famous as well as feared. You CAN'T argue it to mean countless things unless you're purposely trying to be disingenuous.

Sarada also has tangible evidence of being better with the sharingan. For one she actually researched it and trained with an actual Uchiha (Sasuke himself). And what's even more obvious is that unlike Sasuke who's never used sharingan genjustu in part 1, Sarada could not only use it against her opponents but even on herself by using the reflection of her opponents sword to negate their paralysis.

So if we're looking specifically at sharingan usage then Sarada actually roflstomps kid Sasuke. (also all things aside the statements about the analytical prediction are directly listed about Sarada on her profile as well so this is irrelevant anyway)
Sharingan is what defines an Uchiha, but not that it's what makes them a shinobi. (even more so in Boruto's era).

Sasuke not using Genjutsu with his sharingan can be used for Sarada being better at genjutsu at most.
Can HE even keep up? Standard shunshin already let's you keep up with your equals while the user can keep up with their own speed. Chidori not only blitzes your equals but even the user. The 2t sharingan can keep up with the chidori. A 3t sharingan can keep up with those who were blitzing a 2t sharingan (like physically dodging and hitting the opponent, not just seeing them).

I feel like Sarada has enough amps here to either keep up and maybe even get the upper hand on Sonic.
Well Sarada has 2 on top of much better reaction speed.
I didn't mean one amp but that i'd argue Sonic's amps are superior overall and that she can't keep up physically
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Chidori doesn't amp the user's perception, aka the reason why sharingan is important(iirc). Four shadow is enough to blitz, Ten Shadow is superior to that, His current ultimate move is more than 30. Current Sonic appears to use clones consistently as well.

Sarada doesn't have 3t sharingan though, no? With t2 alone, i don't think her amp reaches Sonic's.
You know what's the only problem with this argument? That I actually read OPM so I know what it means.
Yeah it was 33,333 strands of hair but it was NOT 33,333 individual attacks as many strands of hair were clumping up together to form a tentacle-like limb to attack. Also they're controlled by a single person so while there was many attacks they all had much lower accuracy.

Saying he can handle 33,333 attacks is like saying Sarada can dodge trillions of attacks because she dodged a single punch and 1 arm is made up of trillions of cells.

Don't get me wrong the feat is still very impressive but you're extremely overblowing it.
I said it based on Sarada's danmaku. (Based on the danmaku attack in the profile)

Not claiming something like they can handle 33,333 attack at once, but that they're capable of handling such danmaku attacks. Characters like Human Garou could also handle danmaku attacks as well (Inferior to Flashy Flash who current Sonic compares to).

He should be able to handle her danmaku attack here (like i said, only based on the attack in her profile).
How Sonic starts against Flashy Flash. This is his current version, where he uses his clone based attacks consistently. Four shadows is enough to blitz, Ten Shadows even more.

(I honestly don't remember much about Boruto, does Sarada instantly start with sharingans or etc? like, what's her standard tactics?)
 
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