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Steven Universe is so back

Anonymous_Learner said:
...Alright then, I don't like it it but i guess i'll concede.
Pink Steven (And Pink too, i guess) having faster combat speed than Omni-Man fits my agenda so i won't push back it that much
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I'm not sure Pink-chan will scale actually it's probably just gonna be Esteban (forma de Pink).
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
wait, we're dead ass giving Pink Steven MFTL+
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Does it matter? I mean every match/fight in this wiki is mostly under speed equalized so speed isn't really that useful unless the person has blitz level amps, higher attack speed, higher reaction speed e.t.c
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Whats wrong about that
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Nothing in all honesty. Rela-Rela+ personally aligns more with intention and the vibes i get from the verse, but Pink Steven being that fast does make sense and He's the undisputed strongest so he has no real anti-feats, i think.
i still think it makes sense and Pink Steven being able to perception blitz Buu Saga Goku is hilarious
 
Zabazab said:
It's a good thing Steven has a slow-mo blitz amp too 💕
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Do we have anything quantifiable with the speed amp?
Ik he was able to blitz multiple characters but, in all honest, if he gets MFTL+, he'd be blitzing them withouth the need for a speed am, it'd just be that (future steven i mean) he'd be tapping into his reserves of speed
 
Taking advantage of the topic to ask a question... I remember the show stating that fusions are more than the sum of both parts or something like that. Shouldn't that mean that, at a minimum, fusions should have an AP value equivalent to the sum of those participating in the fusion?
 
Not really no, that'd be almost hidden calc stacking in a roundabout way you'd just scale them to whatever feats they have after fusing
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
Not really? It's a multiplier, DBZ does this + multiples their combined power by their the multiplier of their strongest form.
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Yeah and we don't have official multipliers for Steven Universe? Even going off of numbers alone some fusions are like an exponential gap in stats so I'd rather we judge going by feats than some other less concrete way personally but thats just me
 
Dalesean027 said:
Yeah and we don't have official multipliers for Steven Universe?
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Neither does DB in regards to fusions, hell all the DBS multipliers aren't official and just a result of scaling.

Like I'm not saying we shouldn't scale fusions to their own feats, but should the feat be lower than the two fusees combined, I'd go with scaling them over the latter.
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
Like I'm not saying we shouldn't scale fusions to their own feats, but should the feat be lower than the two fusees combined, I'd go with scaling them over the latter
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Thats what an at least rating is for though, idk I'm just personally not on board with that kind of thing without more concrete basis to stand on
 
Well, if the verse is going to get back on track, I should also point out that some profiles are outdated, like Smoky Quartz needing a likely 5-C for scaling to Pink Steven, I also believe that Obsidian, Rainbow Quartz and Sunstone deserve a likely 5-C because Steven is part of the fusion and, like Smoky Quartz, they have the potential to access the Pink state even though they don't demonstrate it in the show, logically they should be capable of it.

Furthermore, Cluster only scales to a High 6-A in the profile, despite apparently being able to withstand Monster Steven. Is there any reason why Cluster shouldn't get a 5-C as well?
 
EnderLord8 said:
Well, if the verse is going to get back on track, I should also point out that some profiles are outdated, like Smoky Quartz needing a likely 5-C for scaling to Pink Steven, I also believe that Obsidian, Rainbow Quartz and Sunstone deserve a likely 5-C because Steven is part of the fusion and, like Smoky Quartz, they have the potential to access the Pink state even though they don't demonstrate it in the show, logically they should be capable of it.
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I'm pretty sure we don't give Characters potential tiers for a thing they haven't done onscreen but you could make than an agrument in the upcoming crt
EnderLord8 said:
Furthermore, Cluster only scales to a High 6-A in the profile, despite apparently being able to withstand Monster Steven. Is there any reason why Cluster shouldn't get a 5-C as well?
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Monster Steven poofed the cluster when actually fighting with the cluster only really holding him with LS
 
By the way, since it was asked before, the canon games are the Light Trilogy.

I'd recommend playing them... but they're unlisted everywhere (if you're going to watch gameplay videos, be careful with Unleash the Light, the updates add extra content/story).

Furthermore, according this page, The Phantom Fable game is Level-2 Canon (also unlisted)
 
Sparkive said:
By the way, since it was asked before, the canon games are the Light Trilogy.

I'd recommend playing them... but they're unlisted everywhere (if you're going to watch gameplay videos, be careful with Unleash the Light, the updates add extra content/story).

Furthermore, according this page, The Phantom Fable game is Level-2 Canon (also unlisted)
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Do those games have anything important scaling wise?
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
Do those games have anything important scaling wise?
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I don't remember, in the third one they can either enter a black hole, but it's just the randomly generated dungeon of the game
The most important thing is the abilities that the games grant them (I still don't know how canon the human characters' abilities are).
 
Dalesean027 said:
🤷‍♂️is what it is, now I mean if we were talking SU movie onwards I could agree tho because Base Steven has like 2 or 3 either high tier 8 to low~mid tier 7 feats
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From rewatching the series I honestly struggled to find scaleable feats exceeding 8-A outside the Diamonds & Cluster
 
Eden_Warlock99 said:
Consistent with this
vsbattles.fandom.com

Steven Universe’s famous mountain split

vsbattles.fandom.com vsbattles.fandom.com

8-A is a better tier for matches anyway
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Well the High the 8-A shit is getting tanked for basically everyone who doesn't scale to this feat, the Sapphire Cloud calc got recalculated better at like High 8-C and I redid the Steven durability calc which also nets High 8-C, that said I've got some more feats to calc that should support 8-A to 7-C for the the Garnet and Jasper tiers
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
Ooh, I see. How so?
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Well the current calc breaks our KE calc rules as the it doesn't even remotely show any equivalent destruction to the KE calculated in its crater and only has like maybe a High 8-C hole max since its just some dirt mostly pulved

 
Dalesean027 said:
Well the current calc breaks our KE calc rules as the it doesn't even remotely show any equivalent destruction to the KE calculated in its crater and only has like maybe a High 8-C hole max since its just some dirt mostly pulved

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I see.
Well, I personally always thought H7C was a bit wack but didn't questiont because i thought maybe there were tons of feats in that range.
Guess not.
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
I think we should have some calc Pink Steven blocking it with White's beams as just speed of light, it could be nice
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Wouldn't hurt to do, should calculate a lot of Pink Steven's speed feats since all are good for travel speed which we need to have listed for each character
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
Speaking of pink Steven, is there anyway of getting him to planet or is blud trapped in 5-C+
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I do think its possible to get higher than Moon+ from the homeworld feat since being real that planet break is definitely more than just splitting it in half and should be higher so maybe potentially low 5-B
 
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