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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Okay, this will be my last hope for it

Here, it's stated that the brightest auroras can generate up to at least 96 gigawatts

Dabura's aurora was done mid daylight, something that the brightest aurora could only do by sunrise (Carringon event)

Intense auroras can last around 24h to 48h. Using 24h

24h = 86400 seconds
86400*96 gigawatts = 8.2944e+15 joules
IM GOING CRAZY WHY THIS SITE SAYS 3000 GIGAWATTS INSTEAD

WHY NO SOURCE IS CONSISTENT
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Far beyond mach 3 Maki? I don't think that's gonna happen unless Gege explicitly states he changed the Naoya statement in the anime to "Mach 874030"
Prolly not since the wiki's pretty damn strict on JJK, but at the very least it could be a feat for Sukuna. Plus it doesn't hurt to gather as many feats above Mach 3 so if at any point people change their mind on that being a cap for peeps who aren't Gojo and Sukuna, we have feats to go by.
Woah. LP liked JJK Modulo so much she went to Shinjuku to see the Dabura vs Mahoraga fight live
That is in fact what I did. I have spoilers for the next leak too. Ya'll ain't gon be too happy bout it. Also nice edit, but you don't need an edit to get me to say that.
 
Prolly not since the wiki's pretty damn strict on JJK, but at the very least it could be a feat for Sukuna. Plus it doesn't hurt to gather as many feats above Mach 3 so if at any point people change their mind on that being a cap for peeps who aren't Gojo and Sukuna, we have feats to go by.
What's the feat
That is in fact what I did. I have spoilers for the next leak too. Ya'll ain't gon be too happy bout it. Also nice edit, but you don't need an edit to get me to say that.
Dabura will win fo sho
 
Btw, I never brought it up, but since I already brought the Miguel feat up (Which someone should def calc. Someone else did it with a lowball height for the skyscraper IIRC and got like High Hypersonic for Gojo), Maki has a speed feat far beyond Supersonic in her fight against Sukuna I never saw anyone bring up. It also doubles as a feat for Sukuna too that would be a really really good feat.
I could probably do the Miguel feat later.

Also which Maki feat cause I could probably calc that if it hasn’t been calced already
 
Assuming OP's method was correct because I didn't really look into it much, it'd be mach 5.1
Ah, I didn't account for the drop in speed for the Curse. Tho arguably they might a lowballed the apparent speed for the slow-mo stuff. At absolute worst it should be a good support feat.
What's the feat
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(On an unrelated note, Maki should get an ability for being able to send a wave through a solid to hit Sukuna. Also waves travel faster through solids than air, so that'd prolly be higher attack speed)

You may be asking: "How the hell is this even Supersonic? Let alone faster."

You need an observant eye. She kicks all of these cubes at Sukuna, and yet they are all right next to each other. The first cube can be launched at Sukuna at any arbitrary speed (It can be calc'd. At most I imagine Subsonic to travel that far without losing any height), but she'd then need to run to the second cube, and kick it fast enough to catch up to the first cube, and then run to the third cube and kick that one even faster to catch up with the second FASTER cube, and so on. So she'd need to speed up running between each cube, and kick each subsequent one even faster. We only see three cubes flying at Sukuna, but there was likely a fourth one off panel, because we see her cut out four of them and the camera is panned up.

So basically the last cube would be flying at Sukuna exponentially faster than the first one, and then to top that off, Sukuna blitzes the cubes, which you could also calculate to get HIS speed (Like with Piercing Blood).
I could probably do the Miguel feat later.

Also which Maki feat cause I could probably calc that if it hasn’t been calced already
Maki feat is above. If you need help I can dm you about it or we can talk over disc or smth if you have that.
 
Prolly not since the wiki's pretty damn strict on JJK, but at the very least it could be a feat for Sukuna. Plus it doesn't hurt to gather as many feats above Mach 3 so if at any point people change their mind on that being a cap for peeps who aren't Gojo and Sukuna, we have feats to go by.
Ngl it's so funny how most of JJK has been fighting the mach 3 cap for over 3 years now while other verses in the wiki have statements just like that or even worse yet are rated at stuff like relativistic - FTL speeds 😭
 
It'd be a bit higher than mach 5.1, but I imagine still mach 5. I'm working on the Miguel feat rn with a different method and lowkenuinely might be able to cook something
 
Ngl it's so funny how most of JJK has been fighting the mach 3 cap for over 3 years now while other verses in the wiki have statements just like that or even worse yet are rated at stuff like relativistic - FTL speeds 😭
Probably because everyone (lowk including me) hate JJK glazers (Yes, I, Buraqibear myself am saying this) Gimme some examples of such verses
 

Arkenis after seeing Dabura create an auraro as a side effect 119km above the ground while vaporizing numerous buildings 🤫
"Arkenis when the strongest character does a decent feat" my whole thing was about us tryna scale high tiers anything above tier 7C lmao. So far, its still just Jogo and Uraume calcs.
 
If the aurora disappers next chapter we can only use the 15 minutes ending lol
Nah it's gonna stay there till Yuka dies three months later and everyone's gonna watch it together at night while eating takoyaki and then Sukuna from Heaven will look down and say "This truly was our Island level Kaisen 😔"
 
I guess, just sounds like a funny addition to her speed section
I mean if the speed is slower than her, we just scale it to her and no need to mention it as attack speed. But if it's faster than her combat speed, then you'd just write "Supersonic+, Hypersonic Attack Speed with Shockwaves" or smth. It prolly won't look that weird.
 
"Arkenis when the strongest character does a decent feat" my whole thing was about us tryna scale high tiers anything above tier 7C lmao. So far, its still just Jogo and Uraume calcs.
You were saying some days ago that high tiers were not that far from god tiers. Don't play the fool
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What other verses have that statement?
This is not an attack on any of those verses btw I don't think they actually cap there, I was just pointing out it being funny lmao
I more so meant like verses that have statements capping their speed not directly "Mach 3", but to give 2 examples
Sonic has mach 3 statements and statements of simply being supersonic at top speed (alongside multiple statements capping his top speed at sound level speeds) and his super form being sub-light yet even his base classic form is ranked at FTL over laser feats and a guidebook statement lol

FSN has statements of one of it's fastest attack in-verse being 400-500kmph, even keeping it in the statement in recent remastered, not being able to keep up with the rpm of machine guns and one of the fastest character has a speed of 500m/s that shocks everyone yet they are rated at Relativistic travel speeds with FTL combats over other statements and feats of the characters in separate novels/medias

You have other stuff like MHA with the mach 10 statement or Dragon ball's nimbus that blitzes Saiyan Saga Nappa being stated in guides to have a max speed of mach 1.5.

Again this ain't an attack on any of the verses's scaling please don't kill me any people that scale those verses 😰
 
I mean if the speed is slower than her, we just scale it to her and no need to mention it as attack speed. But if it's faster than her combat speed, then you'd just write "Supersonic+, Hypersonic Attack Speed with Shockwaves" or smth. It prolly won't look that weird.
I meant more on it being kinda contingent on the material she sends her shockwaves through and the fact she needs to slam herself into the object.

You were saying some days ago that high tiers were not that far from god tiers. Don't play the fool
If I did, that's literally because until now Gojo and Sukuna have barely done anything this massive lmao. Like Sukuna's greatest thing is a bomb that requires him prepping the whole battlefield with dust and Gojo's gotta use his greatest attack Purple as well. Reread the comment you quoted, its about regular attacks not portraying the tiers.

Dabura though, he's just being HIM and I can't take that away from him.
 
Sonic has mach 3 statements and statements of simply being supersonic at top speed (alongside multiple statements capping his top speed at sound level speeds) and his super form being sub-light yet even his base classic form is ranked at FTL over laser feats and a guidebook statement lol
As the local Sonic fan I just want to say almost every statement about Sonic being Supersonic is never stated to be his top speed. They just vaguely state he's Supersonic, and some even state he usually runs at that speed which is implication of him being able to run much faster. There are also numerous statements of Base Sonic being light speed and FTL. There are very very few statements that actually cap Sonic below Mach speed (As in imply it's his max speed). Also the guidebook thing isn't a guidebook. It's the manual that comes with the game that explains the lore of the game + the mechanics (It states Sonic runs at the speed of light to travel through time, that's very explicit).
 
This is not an attack on any of those verses btw I don't think they actually cap there, I was just pointing out it being funny lmao
I more so meant like verses that have statements capping their speed not directly "Mach 3", but to give 2 examples
Sonic has mach 3 statements and statements of simply being supersonic at top speed (alongside multiple statements capping his top speed at sound level speeds) and his super form being sub-light yet even his base classic form is ranked at FTL over laser feats and a guidebook statement lol

FSN has statements of one of it's fastest attack in-verse being 400-500kmph, even keeping it in the statement in recent remastered, not being able to keep up with the rpm of machine guns and one of the fastest character has a speed of 500m/s that shocks everyone yet they are rated at Relativistic travel speeds with FTL combats over other statements and feats of the characters in separate novels/medias
Idk about this stuff but
You have other stuff like MHA with the mach 10 statement or Dragon ball's nimbus that blitzes Saiyan Saga Nappa being stated in guides to have a max speed of mach 1.5.
Mainly because it wasn't as heavily emphasized upon and travel/flight speed isn't equal to combat speed. The speed in question we see rated is Combat speed. And they blatantly contradict actual Rela - FTL stuff in verse (MHA characters catching light or reacting to radiowaves, DB Characters doing DB Character shit (like casually blowing the moon up from Earth in seconds) this is also why combat speed is rated differently than travel speed, while for JJK, as far as I'm aware, there was one Supersonic+-Hypersonic(+) pre-awakened Maki feat that had 0 real consistency and Gege himself said "It was a bit much but it's fine."
 
As the local Sonic fan I just want to say almost every statement about Sonic being Supersonic is never stated to be his top speed. They just vaguely state he's Supersonic, and some even state he usually runs at that speed which is implication of him being able to run much faster. There are also numerous statements of Base Sonic being light speed and FTL. There are very very few statements that actually cap Sonic below Mach speed (As in imply it's his max speed). Also the guidebook thing isn't a guidebook. It's the manual that comes with the game that explains the lore of the game + the mechanics (It states Sonic runs at the speed of light to travel through time, that's very explicit).
I'm not tryna start anything over it (even if I don't agree with it) as that'd be unrelated dw, I was just pointing out the funny how jjk has been fighting the cap at mach 3 for 3 years lol
 
I meant more on it being kinda contingent on the material she sends her shockwaves through and the fact she needs to slam herself into the object.
Well he needing to slam into it is fine. Attack Speed are usually contingent on weapons which you pull the trigger of. But yeah, maybe varies would be better.
 
I'm not tryna start anything over it (even if I don't agree with it) as that'd be unrelated dw, I was just pointing out the funny how jjk has been fighting the cap at mach 3 for 3 years lol
I think Mach 3 cap is BS too. I was just pointing out the statements you were using are incorrect as almost none of them imply a cap or are from really old material, and doesn't mention the fact that official material also states he can casually achieve speeds higher than that. So it has different circumstances from JJK which never give statements for speeds faster, and are clear hard cap statements for the characters whereas Sonic's just talk about his casual speed (Which is ignoring the 50 quadrillion feats Sonic has that showcase him being faster since that isn't required to get Sonic to above Mach 3 and Sub-Light).
 
While sonic has inconsistent statements, with some saying that he is supersonic and others saying he is FTL (in guidebooks), he still got onscreen feats of bullshit like outspeeding a black hole and moving light years distances

While JJK we got numerous supersonic stataments in the series and in guidebooks, with tons of subsonic feats to back it up
 
While sonic has inconsistent statements, with some saying that he is supersonic and others saying he is FTL (in guidebooks), he still got onscreen feats of bullshit like outspeeding a black hole and moving light years distances

While JJK we got numerous supersonic stataments in the series and in guidebooks, with tons of subsonic feats to back it up
Exactly, while I thnk you have arguments to scale the non gojos and sukunas (And goats like big Raga) higher (with squinting), supersonic is rather consistent
 
This is not an attack on any of those verses btw I don't think they actually cap there, I was just pointing out it being funny lmao
I more so meant like verses that have statements capping their speed not directly "Mach 3", but to give 2 examples
Sonic has mach 3 statements and statements of simply being supersonic at top speed (alongside multiple statements capping his top speed at sound level speeds) and his super form being sub-light yet even his base classic form is ranked at FTL over laser feats and a guidebook statement lol

FSN has statements of one of it's fastest attack in-verse being 400-500kmph, even keeping it in the statement in recent remastered, not being able to keep up with the rpm of machine guns and one of the fastest character has a speed of 500m/s that shocks everyone yet they are rated at Relativistic travel speeds with FTL combats over other statements and feats of the characters in separate novels/medias

You have other stuff like MHA with the mach 10 statement or Dragon ball's nimbus that blitzes Saiyan Saga Nappa being stated in guides to have a max speed of mach 1.5.

Again this ain't an attack on any of the verses's scaling please don't kill me any people that scale those verses 😰
Sonic has dozens of feats going against those statements and also statements supporting his higher speed lmao. It makes sense Sonic would be more accepted for higher a interpret. It's also a big franchise stretching decades, with different iterations of Sonic, it's bound to have inconsistent statements and portrayals. JJK on the other hand, is barely a decade old and is mainly one guy, so when we get a blatant statement, it's harder to hand-wave it away with the 100th hypersonic calc.

FSN is fate stay night I'm guessing? Again they just have way more going against that stuff.

MHA mach 10 is just AM running, doesn't limit combat speed.

I'm guessing the mach 1.5 is from Dragon Ball not DBZ? Could it not have gotten faster?

You're not attacking them, just misunderstanding the problem Mach 3 presented in the verse. We already have limited speed feats for people below Maki, Maki then needing molecular info analysis across hundreds of meters to react to Mach 3 set a big precedent is all. I agree that Gojo and Sukuna obviously don't get capped by it and I think most here always agreed somewhat that they'd be mhs-rel speed. I do agree that JJK gets pretty harsh scrutiny but half of the time it's pretty warranted.
 
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