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Argue with the one who put that ability on his profile then. Who is known as @ShionAH
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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DarkLock92
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I'm not really arguing for anything specific. All I'm saying is Lucifer's power has shown to negate regeneration, so using Emily to prove Angels don't have regeneration doesn't really work in my opinion.
The Lute exemple is still valid.
ShionAH
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Well Emily is clearly not above Adam in power, he is built different you can cry all you want.
Oh yes I forgot that Adam has an army, you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO smart actualyl WOWWWWW wow!!!! WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
And YOU'RE NOT using an episode that's ENTIRE PLOT LINE is that Angels are HARD TO KILL. Yet by your logic all they have is.... oh yeah... NOTHING. Wow, I guess Vaggie just has the ability to heal only for her wings, sure! Wow!!!!!!! Guys Angels have EXTREMELY HIGH durability, remember when they uhhh.... uhh yeah.... they
GUYS ANGELS ARE SO DURABLE CANNIBALS CAN DIG THEIR TEETH INTO THEM WITH NO PROBLEM, CANNIBAL TEETH HAVE TOP TIER AP FOR HELL? WOW
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Or, alternatively, their Regeneration does not go above High-Low except for insane overtime stuff.
The 0.000001% of Sinners can maybe do a single thing against average angels, and their weapons punch above their weight class sufficient to kill veritable gods to Sinners. So yes, durability works. Alternatively...
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Aren't you the one who crashes out?
Vox literally obliterates and accidentally kills sinners in his second fight with Alastor.(first on-screen) So yeah, compared to rando sinners, they're basically invulnerable.
Ah, so I should make it so they aren't god-tiers and have no defensive hax either, then?
...They're using Angelic Weapons, Shion. A corpse is naturally gonna be less resistant to harm.
ShionAH
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I remember your crashouts, Reaper
Yet Overlords were pissing their pants and hiding for what reason again?
Funny how your first defence mechanism is always "oh should I downplay the entire series rather than accept I am wrong?"
On their teeth? Where the f did you get that from? what are we doing
Proof? Give me a single reason their durability would be FARRRR weaker that what used to be INVULNERABLE TO HARM can be pierced easily with teeth, it aint even a rotten corpse dude its fresh.
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So nobody but Vaggi can even do it then, so no one gets to have it in their pages because if it needs all that setup and hasn't been used by them. Then no other angel would have that, ENTIRELY because Vaggi is an outlier who did it on accident. Even if they do have it in them, that doesn't change the fact that no one else uses it. Not Em or Lute, and Adam damn well could just be powering through the pain. We can't give something that doesn't affect anything.
Vaggi is also fallen which genuinely might be the difference maker, it might actually be a demonic/dark power thing to be able to quickly heal. IK thats just speculation, but if the only angel who did it was a fallen one, and no other non-fallen angels do it, then its not out of the question. Lucifer also wasn't knocked out for very long if the last episode implied anything. So only 2 angels, both fallen, are the only people with angelic power shown to do it. Charlie does probably have it too, but not as fast as you say, considering the blood on her head only disappeared for good after the battle.
ShionAH
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it disappears after she stabs Adam, which happens moments after the slap. then it appears again during one shot with Lu and then disappears again.
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You literally just proved it's an animation error
ShionAH
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yeah exactly, it randomly appearing for a SINGULAR shot is an animation error compared to the rest of the shots. so she healed it.
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I get annoyed, you ragequit the wiki for half a year cause your GOAT didn't get questionable SI that goes against how the rest of the verse is treated. We are not the same.
Basically none cause Carmilla casually executed one.
The other option is High 6-B William Afton. I think I'll keep "downplaying", thanks.
I'm giving you tier 5 Hazbin mate. Take it or leave it, you didn't even get around to sending me that Adam thing I asked you to do so I wrote it myself like two weeks later.
Rewatch the scene, what are they holding? An angelic sword.
There's no brace for impact, nothing defending themselves, everything's still. This is basic death biology.
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We are arguing on who's animation error is superior (It's Val, who's broken wings dont even show up until he ducks under Vox going laser crazy)
Wake me up when someone has an actual question relating to a shown ability/if an ability is missing
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Just rewatched it, the times the blood is there is equal to the times its not, on top of the fact that most of the time her hair is in the way, so since its even, it makes more sense to assume that the blood being gone is the error, not the blood still being there
ShionAH
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Yap yap yap, I left scaling on the wiki because I was getting too angry. Now I am rethinking if I did the right thing only messing with discussion threads when its pissing me off just as much
You mean his AP thing? I did make a blog, is this not it? Tfym you mean you wrote it I am confused.
While biting into the skin with their teeth, thats not angelic.
They are death sure but their skin isn't suddenly MUCH weaker, you are saying they are INVULNERABLE to Sinner attacks yet somehow they get so weak after death that sinners can rip into them with teeth? Normal teeth?
Pretty sure this is blatant lie, I rewatched it AGAIN it only appears once after she initially heals it. Do show me these amount of times.
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Watch some Bob Ross or something.
I didn't ask for a rework with what YOU wanted. I asked for something like this:
- At most 5-B+/Low 5-B+: Adam makes an off-guard Lucifer grunt with a tackle, can temporarily throw him away in snake or octopus form, tanks a casual horse kick, gets a nosebleed from a casual off-guard punch(though it had him screaming in agony), and is able to get up after a Bloodlusted Lucifer beats his ass and was one hit from ending his life.
- Attack Potency does not scale, but durability does: In this instance, Adam would be a stomp level above Full Power Alastor's strongest attacks, and we(bullshittily, I should add) say that Adam being casual means his durability was just in the range for FP Alastor to be able to damage.
- Adam does not scale at all to Lucifer: Take what I said for scaling to Alastor, remove the durability fuckery, and there you go.
After they were already dead.
We can eat Sharks and bears, can't we?
I think it did only appear the once, but that's like... Low regen lmfao
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It probably only applies when they are alive, like its a passive that relies on living. Which is a reasonable enough assumption
No, that would take so much effort for something I don't have to prove, it was 4 - 4, with the rest being obscured by her hair, its not hard to stop d!ck riding and count for your self. I have better things to do in abt 20 mins then argue against a guy who everone here knows is wrong
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Wall level or not, flesh is made to be soft, bone and stone are rigid, its fair to assume that durable but soft things are susceptible to piercing and tearing, especially since they aren't alive for their supposed healing factor to kick in anyway. I could totally bite off a chunk of shark, it would be unpleasant but I could.
I counted about 4 times on each side, literally 50/50 if she healed (she didn't until far after combat applicability)
ShionAH
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I watched it dude, there wasnt 4 scenes with blood I am watching it a third time, it appears ONCE after the initial heal. I also have never seen you make a single great point yet, what was the last thing anyone agreed with you?
Why the **** would 3 even be an opiton tbh but whatever, I still didnt understand what you want maybe its a language barrier
We can bite into sharks and bears even when they are alive... they are also not invulnerable
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Right now with Reaper and basically everyone else, and reaper agreeing that AL is comparable to Adam to an extent, and quite a few others actually, and sides, at least im trying to be better and not flail around
ShionAH
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Taking Orange's credit is insane
No, you are just being rude while being confidently wrong
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There was the speed thing that happened and I eventually realized that he and I already had the same opinion on it (more or less), and good on ya Orange for the rest
If i could count them in 2 mins, you can too
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it's basically the "disagree" section,
Maybe, but what's done is done.
No we genuinely can't. Unless it's a really ******' small one on either side.
ShionAH
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I dont have proof but I am almost certain I could bite into a shark or a bear, obviously not get through bones but definitely pierce into their flesh and rip some out. Would GPT know?
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For Sharks they're all muscle IIRC. Try ripping a piece out of your forearm... metaphorically speaking, don't actually hurt yourself.
And bears are even worse. Thick ass fur and even more muscle and strong skin.
ShionAH
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So its telling me I can barely get into its flesh but not rip it apart, you are correct
But it also told me that it wouldn’t change anything if they freshly died, so I am correct too
Edit: From my knowledge, Rigor Mortis could make it even HARDER to bite into them after death lol.
Meaning my point about how they would pierce through the exorcist stands
But it also told me that it wouldn’t change anything if they freshly died, so I am correct too
Edit: From my knowledge, Rigor Mortis could make it even HARDER to bite into them after death lol.
Meaning my point about how they would pierce through the exorcist stands
Eden_Warlock99
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wow the Exorcists might actually be 9-B
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I DID IT! I ACCOUNTED FOR EVERY SCENE CHANGE WHERE WE COULD SEE THE ANGLE AND GUESS WHAT! I was a little off, most of the time the hair WAS in the way, but blood appeared 9 TIMES WHILE THE NO BLOOD WAS ONLY 7 AT MOST AND IM...a little dubious on if I should have counted one of them.
You would not believe how finicky the screenshoting process was, I had to use my phone lol.
I did it!
You would not believe how finicky the screenshoting process was, I had to use my phone lol.
I did it!
Anonymous_Learner
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An army of of 9-Bs wield 5-B weapons WOULD be funny
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Long story short, the blood disappearing was most definitely the error, not the opposite
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Extremely
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I know I was beating the proverbial dead horse with the Charlie Regen thing, but I had to make sure I didnt do a missinfo
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Think I did a good enough job on counting the blood?
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If I say you won can we end the pointless argument
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Dont have to, I did it more for myself and just wanted to share, just wanted to make sure I wasn't talking out of my ahh
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NOW THAT'S THE TYPE OF MOTIVATION I'M ALL FOR!
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Lol, didn't mean to sound toxic with Shion, I was just a little frustrated because it seemed so obvious to me, but I'm trying to get better
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All good, can't exactly say I'm above getting so heated that I search frame by frame to prove something I find so obvious/plausible
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I wonder if future seasons will give her more powers? Like the demon arm still hasn't been really explained
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I hope they don't so Charlie continues to be fodder
Anonymous_Learner
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I honestly hope they don't give her more ablities besides maybe some barely combat applicable low regen, i just want this woman to get her skill up since she's already technically the strongest besides from Lucifer (with her transformation and rage)
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