ShionAH
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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Oh yeah!There is the obvious problem which is where the whole Invulnerable Angels died from
Lute STILL hasn't recovered from her injury. We legit have no evidence that the Angels can regenerate
Hey Shion if Lute in this Regeneration God, or Adam is this Regeneration God, why didn't they immediately regen from losing an arm and getting their ass beat respectively?
ShionAH
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Vaggie literally healed her wings but only after a whole character arc. Lute would probably need some type of motivation to focus and heal it
Anonymous_Learner
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Her head is STILL bleeding in the same spot while lucifer is holding her
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...Sinner Regeneration is basically instant at a certain point, Val instantly regenerated being impaled through the chest, Velvette's model casually put herself back together.
Anonymous_Learner
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fair enough, i'll remove her supersonic+ travel speed since she can already travel at ftl speeds with flight
ShionAH
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We never saw him regenerate
Tf? Velvette was literally complaining that she didn't have time to wait for her to pull herself back together
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Mate you are arguing for superior regeneration to Sinners. Situational regen that can take years to occur is not a valid argument since that just proves this isn't the norm.
I will admit this could allow a regen section if Angels get added to the physiology, but God damn is it not combat applicable
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Anonymous_Learner
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TBH, it seems like an animation error rather than regeneration.
With the goatia, we got moments of them showing off their regeneration like that moment with Stella's brother. With charlie, it flip flops from her being covered in blood to not
ShionAH
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Mate I believe there is a SLIGHT difference between an exorcist angel and ******* seraphim?? what??
Goetia heal much faster than sinners, yet somehow Seraphims should heal the exact same way as exorcist angels??
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His coat regenerated, which is just his physical wings
ShionAH
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Unless I saw it wrong she is bleeding, heals and then she is fine for most of the shots, gets the bleeding once again during that single shot and then is healed again. Maybe she got it again when Adam cleaved the Hotel?
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Shion, should I give angel Regeneration the weakness that the wound will randomly reopen?
We never saw Adam regenerate either, or is it because you suck his tiny **** that he gets a pass for blood showing up in one scene and not the next?
It's Velvette. This woman is a genuine impatient *****. Does she want to wait even one minute for a gal to put herself back together?
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Sure...... but we are on literal speculation territory. I said we had no evidence that they have any significant regeneration. Key word there is the proof. We cant even say that they are naturally superior than others since Emily got no-diffed by Vox pre-amplification.
All we got are ideas. Am I saying its impossible, no. Am I saying we have nothing actually concrete, hell to the yeah.
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Yeah, but thats Husk's strongest move iirc and Niffty wasn't even using her strongest weapon (i personally think her needle is, since its the one she chose to protect Baxter with over the knife)
ShionAH
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Sure at this point, all you want to do is go against my views anyways lol.
No because I am also telling you Charlie regenerated from the wound, there is a SINGLE shot of the blood which could come from the fact that she was at the middle of the Hotel while it was cleaved in half while the REST of the scenes show she is healed.
What a shitty argument, just throw random headcanons but how dare I say maybe the entirety of S1 Episode 7 wasn't useless!!
We literally see it though? And we have SO much proof that they are hard as **** to kill, yet you except me to believe a RANDOM ASS SINNER is harder to kill than a SERAPHIM? Despite the fact that Angels are supposed to be these unstoppable monsters?
I am trying to make sense of the show as much as you, but saying "all we got are implications so lets just push it under the rug!" is such a bad way to approach this, if we go with this option S1 Episode 7 becomes a literal shit show about NOTHING.
"Oh we NEED angelic weapons even though Angels can be harmed and killed by anything from rubble and don't heal at all. We NEEEEEEED angelic weapons guys!!"
You seriously think this is the right way to handle this ability?
Any of you seriously think this makes sense?
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The proof we have in question revolves around characters thinking they outright can't harm them. Not that they think Angels are regeneration gods. If you have this proof then WHY ARE YOU DEBATING WITH ME AND NOT PROVING REAPER WRONG? Like if its that easy to prove that their unkillable nature is from a regeneration perspective and not sheer durability i dont think this would be an argument.
No, none of that makes sense, we criticize the show about it for a reason. The only explanation for that is that Angels are just stupid durable. Angelic Weapons aren't just immortality negation, these weapons are strong enough to let Imps kill what are practically gods to them.
We have no evidence for any actual regeneration, if there is by all means prove everyone else wrong and show the angels recovering from non-immortality negating damage quickly and easily
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Sigh.
Oh wow, inconsistent animation from Hazbin? No! Impossible!
Adam died from being stabbed repeatedly by something he supposedly resists the effects of.
You wanna know what happens in normal Sinner vs Overlord? They get ******* murdered in one hit or casually batted around like a cat playing with a wounded mouse. Same thing with your average Excorcist vs a normal Sinner.
Does it matter when even an Archangel could atomize a sinner and his entire airship with no effort? Normal sinners can't harm fully grown Seraphim and only the literal strongest Sinner could do literally ANYTHING to just an Archangel. And Adam calls full-fledged Seraphim "Daddy" with how badly Lucifer beat his ass.
DarkLock92
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Are they? Lute still got hurt by rubble.
ShionAH
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This is genuinly a disgusting way to approach this situation, Angels have stupidly high durability that normal attacks can't hurt them?? What proof do YOU guys have for that? Matter of fact yeah please do mention me where this comes from. "Its not hax just stats" When were they potrayed to be so much durable? Why would they get hurt by hitting their heads on Al's shield if they are STUPIDLY durable?
Eden_Warlock99
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Their AP scales duh
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Look if we criticize too hard we loop back into 9-A verse-wide. So its either we say Lute is really durable or that boulder is capable of negating regeneration. Until we get evidence saying they can normally regrow their arms, then we can just say that was PIS/She just ripped her arm off because she couldn't lift the thing.
ShionAH
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How is regrowing two entire wings not enough evidence even the lower tier of angels can heal?
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You realize quite literally any hax explanation you come up with falls flat, right?
"Lute is Invulnerable!" That scene. hell that's just LS, earlier the rock fall made Lute bleed.
"Only ADAM AND HIGHER are invulnerable!" How? Every statement is general and in-context about the excorcists. Also Alastor harmed Adam with his magic. Unless we wanna start saying Adam took two steps back and rubbed his chin because he was getting super philosophical in the middle of combat?
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Im not arguing that it isnt applicable for a physiology regeneration.
Im saying that that took way too long for it to be considered combat applicable or better than a Sinner's regen
ShionAH
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Regeneration doesn't, especially when Vaggie DID IT ON SCREEN IN THE SAME SEASON
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Lute not regenerating her arm and Emily not regenerating her wing. 2 to 1, you lose.
DarkLock92
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I don't think Emily counts considering the attack she got hit with permanently kills sinners.
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It actually does. What's not healing on Lute's head for 20 ******* seconds?
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I'll give credit where it's due, Angelic Lasers are listed as negating that stuff (Adam killed Pentious).
That's however still a 1 to 1 with the example in favor of regeneration taking god-knows how long
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Adam (Hazbin Hotel)
Adam is the main antagonist of the first season of Hazbin Hotel As the first human man,[3] Adam holds a large amount of prestige in Heaven, having been appointed as the head of the Exorcists in order to defend Heaven.[4] Adam, upon being borderline antagonized multiple times targets the Hazbin...
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ShionAH
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For Exorcist Angels I AGREE, for the higher tiered Angels similar to how it works in Hell they heal faster.
Lets put a logic test
Hell ---> Stronger = Faster Healing Speed!
Heaven -----> Stronger = ???????
Same universe!
As I explained they need some sort of motivation to do it which is why its not good for exorcist angels
Angelic Magic, she isnt built like Adam.
Vaggie healing her wings, Charlie healing her head, Adam healing his arm
ShionAH
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This is for Adam since he did heal one, irrelevant for other characters since they didn't. Your point is just ass.Look at his Resistances. Tell me what you see.Adam (Hazbin Hotel)
Adam is the main antagonist of the first season of Hazbin Hotel As the first human man,[3] Adam holds a large amount of prestige in Heaven, having been appointed as the head of the Exorcists in order to defend Heaven.[4] Adam, upon being borderline antagonized multiple times targets the Hazbin...
ShionAH
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Are you like NOT READING MY COMMENTS?
Vaggie had an ENTIRE arc only then she could heal herself, so clearly exorcist angels can only heal when they do that sorta stuff. they are likely heavenborn for crying outloud ofc they have a shittier immortality
In Hell hellborns that are weaker can't even heal, sinners can and higher powered beings can and faster.
In Heaven heavenborns that are weaker can only heal with enough motivation, winners (who also died) can ???? and higher powered beings can heal and faster
fill in the gap
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You know what, those are some great arguments they sho-hold up..... yeah?..... uh-huh.....
Well my lawyers have told me that the verse pages don't actually run under that logic as lesser characters in the hierarchy are capable of fighting and sometimes even overpowering characters that should be stronger.
DarkLock92
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Lucifer was gonna kill Adam with his power, the same power that hit Emily's wing.Look at his Resistances. Tell me what you see.Adam (Hazbin Hotel)
Adam is the main antagonist of the first season of Hazbin Hotel As the first human man,[3] Adam holds a large amount of prestige in Heaven, having been appointed as the head of the Exorcists in order to defend Heaven.[4] Adam, upon being borderline antagonized multiple times targets the Hazbin...
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Your logic is "higher end angel=better shit", tell me Shion, who is a higher end Angel than Adam? A Seraphim.
S1E7 makes no sense with this explanation either, Shion. Adam was no the one doing all of the extermination stuff. He had an army at his back. Or did you forget?
And you're using an episode that is Referring to ALL ANGELS SINNERS INTERACT WITH, aka EXCORCISTS to try and prove your point, Shion.
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