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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread
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Ghengiroo115
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Base Vilgax in OV is kind of a joke so she’d probably scale above him just from her other feats. I don’t remember much of her episodes, but I do remember one instance of her forcing Ghostfreak out of her, which iirc was through brute strength rather than a proper resistance. Would need to double check though.
Ghengiroo115
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Does anyone know where to find a scan that says Ultimate Humungousaur is 2x base Humungousaur? I remember this scan being brought up in an older thread but I can’t find it anymore. Idk if it was fake or something, but I want to make sure.
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Ghengiroo115
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Ah man, it’s on Imgur which is blocked in my country.
Sorry to be a bother, but is there anywhere else it can be uploaded? Or if it’s easier, do you know where the scan comes from so I can find it?
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Ghengiroo115
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The video is private
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Check it again
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Ghengiroo115
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Thanks guys, I knew I wasn’t going crazy.
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These books are really weird, it stated that Ultimate Humungousaur can grow up to 120 feet?
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She is so strong no Plumber wants to even mess with her, she made Vilgax cry once, and made him flee in fear
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Apollonir.Scale
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She's also fighting against Big Chill, and Kevin doesn't want to mess with her.
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I think it’s saying that’s its base height. “Instantly grows” as in it grows to that size just from going ultimate, which is definitely not true. With how off the number is I could only assume they meant 37 feet instead of meters (which still seems a little high), but that’s not something I can just assume to be the case without any evidence.
Tbh I wasn’t sure how useful this scan would be in the first place since he’s obviously way more than only twice as strong, but with something so blatantly wrong like the height I’m probably not gonna consider this scan anymore.
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I think he can grow up to 37 meters but Ben doesn't use it like in Omniverse. Even in CN website Go Hero, it stated that Ultimate Humungousaur can grow up to 120 feet. The only one who say Ultimate Humungousaur can't grow up, is Dwayne McDuffie, who wasn't supposed to be canon unless if his statements are support it in show
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It doesn't make sense if Ultimate aliens lost their special abilities, as it is stated that Ultimate form make aliens better, stronger, and faster than before.
Ghengiroo115
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If there’s other statements that say he can grow up to that size, then this scan might’ve just worded that weirdly and was basing it off that. Ultimate Humungousaur being able to grow or not is contentious so I guess the scan isn’t completely bogus.
Tbf Ultimate Echo Echo never shows himself able to duplicate on-screen either (Dwayne McDuffie said he can’t, while a Cartoon Network bio and Derrick J. Wyatt both said he can), and Ultimate Spidermonkey loses the “ability” of being agile, so it did seem like there were supposed to be downsides to the Ultimates at first.
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120 feet is also very close to 37 meters, but maybe they just add 37 instead of 36.6. I think it's just because Ben doesn't use it anymore.
Also not just Cartoon Newton, but also in comics
This is a big problem if he really lost his ability of being agile this means that Ultimate form aren't better and faster then base form, although official book say the opposite. But only downsides is Ultimate form take more energy from Ultimatrix
Ghengiroo115
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Spidermonkey being less agile and flexible doesn’t necessarily mean he’s slower, just that he’ll find it harder to move around and dodge attacks relative in soeed to him than he would in his base form.
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Can someone send the scans of Ascalon being considered the only hope against Dagon and being the greatest weapon ever?
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I dont think it should be taken seriously considering it claims UA humung can grow upto 37 meters tall, when in the show we never seen or given hint of such thing.
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In terms of strength, same as csnon one. In others like speed, ability, haxes, he outclasses canon Alien X.
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Wouldn't he scale higher via transcending the comic and entering the real world? Sure it wouldn't be R>F transcendence but it'd at least be one transcendence higher then Cannon
Plus he could erase the Multiverse like Eon goats him to do, but he doesn't due to morals. The Ben 10 Multiverse has infinite dimensions right? So that's infinite-D, then he scales one transcendence above that hence why I place him at Low Outer
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Well yeah that can be the case.
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The energy content of the Sun
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It state that there already have nanite in Ben 10 dimensions, does that mean think scale above earth tech like highbreed tech can scale above meta nanite
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Hellformer
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It state that there already have nanite in Ben 10 dimensions, does that mean think scale above earth tech like highbreed tech can scale above meta nanite
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The meta nanites are some form of higher information of space, time, energy, gravity, etc of the timestream + they're not bound by it because they can exist even after ripping apart the timestream so the answer is no.
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Hellformer
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Surprisingly he has shown to duplicate in comics but I'm not sure if that can be considered canon to prime timeline
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Guys, is there any statement of Vilgax being Ben's most powerful alien? Or any of Ben's enemies at all who have been found in h2h by him (like Aggregor, Vilgax, Malware, etc)
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Did you mean the most powerful alien enemy?
There was a statement about Vilgax, Morningstar, and Highbeer. It said Vilgax was the most ruthless, Highbeer could bench press with the highest weight, and Morningstar was the most dangerous.
Besides that, there is a statement that Vilgax is more powerful than Khyber.
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Azmuth called Vilgax Universe's most dangerous being.
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Presumably because they are forms of Ben, listing the omnitrix there is seen as reduntant
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Ben also has omnitrix as a standart equipment so they should have it as well + they posseses the abilities and resistances of omnitrix in their profile
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Good evening and Merry Christmas! As everyone already knows how this works, let's get started. Ben Tennyson: Accelerated Development and Power Mimicry limited [Passive, Training, Skills, Intelligence]: Tetrax's hoverboard-based combat requires intensive training and the use of holographic...
