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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable

Outside of the calc itself being weird

Unless there is a case where Stands become UES, there isnt any way to scale stands to this without needing some weird point that isnt very flimsy when you look more into it

Thing is I dont know if we can use the total without having to divide it into how much it produces within a second so even if hypothetically we were to use this, I dont think it would even be around that level of AP as it might be massively lower due to the one second thing and be around Building to Large Building
 
Haters will say this isn't @Chariot190
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I know it's been shown before, but God damn Araki is hammering in how OP Jodio is. He can just summon November Rain right over you instantly, that basically kills most stand users without a fight. Crazy shit ain't it.
 
 
do you have fate hax in your scaling for jojo chars, just curious?
Be more specific. Like who we talking about, and to what degree because the answer could be yes or no.
 
Be more specific. Like who we talking about, and to what degree because the answer could be yes or no.
For Joestars including Pucci as well he had the Joestar birthmark after fusing with Greenbaby the idk what degree exactly but uh anyone who follows the path of justice?
 
For Joestars including Pucci as well he had the Joestar birthmark after fusing with Greenbaby the idk what degree exactly but uh anyone who follows the path of justice?
Pucci not really, outside of MIH, his fate slop was fake.
Green Baby legit has nothing.
Justice is more of a meta thing not really applicable for wiki.

Dio, Jotaro, Joseph, are the only Joestars who have it in a semi combat applicable way.
 
Unless it's a case of piercing damage being busted, shouldn't Glory Days be 9-B for hurting Paco?
 
Unless it's a case of piercing damage being busted, shouldn't Glory Days be 9-B for hurting Paco?
Glory Days doesn't affect the damage of the bullets or anything like that, just can manipulate their speed.

If you mean the actual gun, yeah piercing damage is busted; i'm pretty sure that there is an old calc that to be completely bullet-proof you should be something higher than even Tier 9, but we don't list it for obvious reasons (I could be wrong on this tho).
 
Glory Days doesn't affect the damage of the bullets or anything like that, just can manipulate their speed.

If you mean the actual gun, yeah piercing damage is busted; i'm pretty sure that there is an old calc that to be completely bullet-proof you should be something higher than even Tier 9, but we don't list it for obvious reasons (I could be wrong on this tho).
It's true, but that was also including like insane bullets like heavy tank artillery.
Calc is wrong tho but the end result is still partially true.

I'd just list the actual damage yield of the gun, Paco taking damage is just media treating guns as dangerous within a general ballpark even if they shouldn't be to bad (tbf Paco only took superficial wounds from them anyway iirc).
 
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Could you briefly explain the logic of the Love Train to me? Are the attacks on Valentine traveling to different parts of the world, or to other worlds?
 
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Could you briefly explain the logic of the Love Train to me? Are the attacks on Valentine traveling to different parts of the world, or to other worlds?
For a second I thought you were bringing up 2-A LT slop lol

Joke's aside, I think it is generally implied that LT can send misfortune anywhere. Its a gap in space connected to all other infinite dimensions, both the base world and neighboring ones. This is why we see attacks go nearby, but why Johnny can also see misfortune seemingly go to the Vietnam war iirc.
 
For a second I thought you were bringing up 2-A LT slop lol

Joke's aside, I think it is generally implied that LT can send misfortune anywhere. Its a gap in space connected to all other infinite dimensions, both the base world and neighboring ones. This is why we see attacks go nearby, but why Johnny can also see misfortune seemingly go to the Vietnam war iirc.
In a similar manner

love train allows valentine to kinda look at attacks and say "double it and give it to the next person"
 
For a second I thought you were bringing up 2-A LT slop lol

Joke's aside, I think it is generally implied that LT can send misfortune anywhere. Its a gap in space connected to all other infinite dimensions, both the base world and neighboring ones. This is why we see attacks go nearby, but why Johnny can also see misfortune seemingly go to the Vietnam war iirc.
nah man, 2-A jojo fr
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So wouldn't LT's range thus be greater than planetary range?
 
nah man, 2-A jojo fr
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So wouldn't LT's range thus be greater than planetary range?
Yeah it should be tbh. If you are going off the profiles, like ALL of them are outdated. Most of us are just waiting for the SBR anime to do reworks though.
 
Thanks for the information, so what are your expectations for sbr?
Do you think they will divide it into 3 separate parts like stone ocean?
 
Thanks for the information, so what are your expectations for sbr?
Do you think they will divide it into 3 separate parts like stone ocean?
I hope not. I'd like to imagine Netflix has learned their lesson with having successful weekly releases like Dan-da-dan. However, just cause I'm hopeful they won't do batches, I still think they'll do cours. SBR (if the pacing isn't crap) will meet or exceed the episode count of even something like SDC (as bloated as its episode count is). So we'll probably get weekly release blocks of 10-12 episodes for the whole part.
 

le funny cats
 

le funny cats
Jodio and Paco are carrying this part's scaling on their back
 
Shouldn't Stands have Limited Durability Negation (Attacking internal structures) as Jotaro can squeeze his own heart to both stop and start it. And has done it to another person, Joseph. So just crush it, or any other organ and they done.
 
Regarding Ghost Girl's Alley, the profile claims that it easily tore apart Killer Queen's hand that held Sheer Heart Attack, but I can't seem to see that happen in the linked scene; the manga doesn't depict that at all despite showing the left hand when Kira calls his Stand out, while the anime only shows the right hand being broken, so why does the profile state this so definitively?
 
Regarding Ghost Girl's Alley, the profile claims that it easily tore apart Killer Queen's hand that held Sheer Heart Attack, but I can't seem to see that happen in the linked scene; the manga doesn't depict that at all despite showing the left hand when Kira calls his Stand out, while the anime only shows the right hand being broken, so why does the profile state this so definitively?
so you just noticed my description change eh

Killer Queen just got LS diff so bad, like bro was ******* pulverized. You can see that there's almost no trace of his body as shown both manga and anime, meaning that all his body was turned into fragments or directly pulverized since most of his body parts hasn't any trace, including ofc his left hand.

His left hand was shown before the LS crush (in the anime showns both)



And then there's nothing about it; as shown in both versions, most of his Stand's body was turned into fragments or directly hasn't any trace left, meaning it was just pulverized.

 
I want to make battle of strongest stalemater of today vs strongest stalemater of history. Is there a way to make so Giorno won't get totally stomped(via prep time, optional equipment etc.)?
 
Restrict his Summoning, ig. Cause he can summon Great Old Ones and Elder Gods.

But can Giorno even with GER negate his Type 5 Immortality and Low-Godly regen?
 
Restrict his Summoning, ig. Cause he can summon Great Old Ones and Elder Gods.

But can Giorno even with GER negate his Type 5 Immortality and Low-Godly regen?
He does have power null and some Stands do have regen akin to that which RTZ would upscale like a few of the post mortem stands, so maybe. Though GER can also skip that by instead of negating it directly, making it so it just doesn't happen by just setting it back to before the regen procs/happens (kind of like how Diavolo can't die, just reset him back to right before he healed).

This obv won't work if this dude resists RTZ tho, but if he resists RTZ why is this even a match, idk I didn't check the profile.
i dont remember which one type 5 is so i cant say either.
 
He does have power null and some Stands do have regen akin to that which RTZ would upscale like a few of the post mortem stands, so maybe. Though GER can also skip that by instead of negating it directly, making it so it just doesn't happen by just setting it back to before the regen procs/happens (kind of like how Diavolo can't die, just reset him back to right before he healed).

This obv won't work if this dude resists RTZ tho, but if he resists RTZ why is this even a match, idk I didn't check the profile.
i dont remember which one type 5 is so i cant say either.
Type 5 is where you are beyond Death itself. Even conceptually, thus Existence Erasure is needed to take you down… which well since he has Low-Godly regen, you'll need even crazier Existence Erasure, like Mind/Soul Erasure, etc

Would it be NLF? Well he can negate Space-Time Erasure and Causality Erasure, though they are Unconventional.
 
Type 5 is where you are beyond Death itself. Even conceptually, thus Existence Erasure is needed to take you down… which well since he has Low-Godly regen, you'll need even crazier Existence Erasure, like Mind/Soul Erasure, etc
Well he can't kill him then, but incap is always a option depending on the dude's kit.
Would it be NLF? Well he can negate Space-Time Erasure and Causality Erasure, though they are Unconventional.
NLF for RTZ? General rule of thumb is if the ability exists in JoJo up to Part 7, shit is free game.
So really the only thing really off the table that's not ultra omega niche is conceptual slop iirc, which does exist in JoJo, except it's Part 8 on and we have got a GER glaze statement since all that shit got introduced.
 
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