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Artoria Pendragon (Saber) Vs Ichigo Kurosaki (Honkai: Star Rail X Fate/Stay Night Vs Bleach)

Don't they still retain smurf range? I feel like if all abilities aren't tied to dimensionality anymore nowadays, that's only for smurf potency, no?
Smurf range, yeah, but it is just 4D extradimensional, though you still ned 4D extradimensional range to reach the soul
 
Really? Then why does it say this then?
"3. 4D Hax & Invulnerability Removal:
Servants had 4D Invulnerability because of this: "Magecraft's nature as magical energy from the soul given form, and the Soul's nature as a higher dimensional form, the resistances and effects listed thereof are at least 4 dimensional in nature. " With the recent update to the Hax & Resistance Page, Metaphysical Aspects like the soul cannot be dimensional. However, as shown in the sandbox, the Soul resides in a higher dimension, requiring sufficient range to affect it. Basically, you won't need 4D Hax to affect the Soul, but the range to do so. As for what that range will be, either Universal+ or Extradimensional. This will also replace Servant's 4D Hax with Range."
Ah, I see where you're coming from. It's just removing the 4D nature of their invulnerability and hax since smurf hax that is below 1-A doesn't really exist.

If you check the sandbox in the original post of that thread, you'll see that invulnerability is still there.


Still qualifying for Invulnerability by the new Invulnerability thread
The thread wasn't removing it in the first place, but that's true.
 
It's not like it helps him that since Saber is still invulnerable.

Will that come back?
I don't think this match up can continue, I currently have a CRT AP upgrade that would get Ichigo and co to multi galaxy level if it gets accepted by two other staffs
Does not seem like LS is gonna be accepted.

But anyway, before this goes out of hand. Guessing this VS Match should be put on Hiatus? DEF remember this though, cause its gonna be a WHILE
Well, this is fun. Changed Ichigo to Merged Hollow form. Match can continue
 
Theres like so many layers into this entire invulnerability discussion that I'm pretty sure no one knows if it applies here or not 😭
Well, currently it is applied, cause it was accepted; i just didn't apply it to make the match doable, if since if we apply this, it is a stomp for Saber
 
Theres like so many layers into this entire invulnerability discussion that I'm pretty sure no one knows if it applies here or not 😭
It still does.
Servant Physiology crt finished?
That CRT was never removing invulnerability.
Existence Erasure😂
Yes!
Even if it wasn't getting removed, and even if she wasn't invulnerable to it, she would still resist it.
If the invulnerability is a factor then this match can't continue.
It is a factor, sadly.

Though, @CastoriceTheFifth could make this a Fun and Games thread, so they can restrict Saber's invulnerability and make the match fair-ish.
 
Was gonna say, don't Servants resist Existence Erasure, even Soul Erasure. And it is completely OOC for Ichigo to Erase someone with his reiatsu's aura
Ichigo can't even interact with their souls to begin with, since their souls reside in higher-dimension, which require at least 4D extradimensional to reach, and soul is info 2 and concept
 
Ichigo can't even interact with their souls to begin with, since their souls reside in higher-dimension, which require at least 4D extradimensional to reach, and soul is info 2 and concept
Yiiikes, the best is that Ichigo's full Reiatsu release has 4-D multiversal range (no clue about extradimensional), but nothin for Info 2 or esp Concept. Yeah this is an absolute Stomp. This can def be closed
 
crossover TM matches are a mistake smh smh

(lets act like this isnt the honkai version for a moment)
Hope you realize HSR Saber and Archer’s profiles are the only ones usable on the wiki rn because they dont look like ass 😭

That is true.

Crossover Hoyoverse matches are mistake, so you multiply them together to get a mistake^2.
Actually diabolical that the only possible Fate matchups are the only ones in verse

 
Hope you realize HSR Saber and Archer’s profiles are the only ones usable on the wiki rn because they dont look like ass 😭


Actual diabolical the only possible Fate matchups are the only ones in verse

I mean, things will only get more unfair since the verse will hopefully get even more upgrades, so i feel like what i said will only prove to be more true overtime sadly
 
how long do you think when hoyo and nasuverse get upgraded will it take before people give up on making match ups because it will always be "stomp since they got 8D invul and passive (insert hax) at 1-A level"
You say this like Kai from Ninjago doesn’t have like 10 different matchups against HSR and Genshin on his profile rn
 
WAIT HUH, ARE YOU SERIOUS LMAO
what is going on in ninjago man

check his wins losses and incons
 

check his wins losses and incons
why is he fighting EVERYONE from EVERYTHING, what are they feeding them in ninjago
 
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