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Please give a proper reason why or I won’t count your vote.
Mind if I ask whether this is related to the paralysis hax from his Kurenai form, or if it’s just pressure point stuff? If it’s the latter I’m not sure it would actually work (V2’s a robot after all) and it can just use a dash (a propulse tech) to get away after being hit.
How high does Hibiki upscale? V2’s AP upscaling isn’t anything special (hell most of its weapons are just baseline 428.89 kt). Its durability is more notable though, it can take hits from its own Knuckleblaster, and that same arm can break Gutterman’s shield, which is completely impervious to and can deflect even Railcannons and Alt Revolvers.
I figured they’re the most troublesome thing for V2 because of their invisibility, but it also feels like V2 can brute force its way through them if they try to swarm it, it's already done a similar thing before (escaping Whiplash’s grab with dashes). V2’s also even more agile than V1, so keeping up with it is going to be a pain in the ass.
Kurenai paralysis is its own thing. You can see in that particular scan he throws out a disk thing to paralyse his opponents and set up his finisher. It's from his standard equipment abilities in the Ongekibou and Ongekikou tab. To answer your question tho, it's not pressure point stuff; afaik it's pure paralysis by supernatural power (aka the fire), since the fire crest flares up to paralyse the opponent, which wouldn't show if he's using pressure point stuff (also not using fingers).
I figure half of the lads would be on the offensive by swarming V2, while the latter would swarm Hibiki for defense. Meat Shield strat is possible if the disk animals become visible, but if not, it'd be harder for V2 to find a gap to shoot it, opting to wing his shots instead.
- Speed Equalized
- Act 2 V2 and first key Armed Hibiki are used
- Both are 77 meters apart
- The fight takes place in Morning Glory Orphanage
Battle Theme (because it's cool and I should probably add more of this stuff into the threads):
I guess V2 can get around that with some coin trick shots, ricocheting the bullet so it hits him from behind or from any spot the Disk Animals haven’t covered yet since he wouldn’t know V2 can do that at first. Will probably only work once, but the damage would be worth it.
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He'd have to know that Hibiki's getting meat shielded first.
Which one?
Something like above baseline "276 Kilotons" along the line. However, I did mention sound attacks, which may seem to be a specific ability, but it is actually a general term for how all abilities in Hibiki are referred to. This means that his flame-based attacks are also sound attacks because they all contain purification sounds.
Unless headshot.
Shit you made a good point, I didn’t notice that. Fine, changed the battle theme
So- he one-shotted the goons who already get one-shotted by the technique he upscales from? Ehh that doesn’t say much tbh. I suppose piercing damage can still mitigate his durability pretty well then.
Only if he gets hit in spots that aren’t vital. V2 however will either aim for those areas (and eventually deal Low-Mid worth of damage) or try to destroy the disk animals around him as quickly as possible to get a clear shot.
It's more so about purification sounds bypassing durability by making enemies explode from inside, and Armed Hibiki has wayyyy stronger dura neg sound attacks than his base form.
Invisible Meat Shield. At least for one or two hits.
One two and then 3 GGs.
I’m confident their aiming feats are nowhere near what V2 can pull off, and the revolver’s bullets are much faster at a certain distance, so the first trick shot is definitely landing.
It’s not that the revolver has way higher AP, it's piercing damage. It focuses into a smaller area letting it go through even comparable guys. Even a small needle can pierce human skin, so you can imagine how easily V2’s shots would damage Hibiki. It’s not straight up dura neg ofc, but still wouldn’t take many shots at all.
It can only create 3 coins at a time compared to V1’s 4, but it still can indefinitely produce them and the cooldown isn’t very long. The Disk Animals can block gunshots, but at that point V2 would just switch to the Nailguns or Shotgun since they have rapid fire/more spread plus explosive grenades to clear out the defensive ones faster.
Their aiming skills are not as impressive as V2, but Hibiki would know to keep guard of his head + the meatshields covering him.
Piercing damage is fine, but I remember V1 could take the coin shots without dying instantly, despite being less durable.
If Hibiki gets that close, he can paralyze V2 with contact or tag it with Ongekiko.
I don't think the first one is hitting at all, mostly for the invisible meat shield statement. I can see him immediately adapting to that afterwards, but the first shot is not going to hit. The rest are fair game, though I just saw one of the feats have Hibiki dodge an attack coming from behind him. Coin stuff might unironically be countered by blowing it away, especially if V2 starts out with it, allowing him to be wary of coins.
He’d need a pretty insane showing to guard his head well enough that V2 can’t just find an angle to shoot around it, it’s not that simple.
I hate saying this because there’s a certain someone who keeps spamming it, but that’s more of a V1 survivability thing than a durability issue. V2 itself can endure head-dinks from even the electric railcannon (literal dura neg), and both Vs can heal those kind of injuries.
It doesn’t need to get THAT close though? The shotgun only requires being within several meters, and Nailgun can reach from much farther plus the Overheat variant with its burst of nails.
Isn’t that more like Hibiki needs to get hit once before he can adapt? It’s not as if he’ll instantly make the animals to shield only his head and block V2’s shots frame one. The coins can definitely be countered, but they mainly just make V2’s shots more likely to land (and also make it look more stylish) anyway.
His profile only lists that as combat and reaction speed. He doesn’t really have any travel speed or huge short burst movement that would let him close the gap while V2 strafing in the air.
Because that’s literally V2’s whole strat against a complete doppelganger of itself? Whenever V1 tries to run, V2 will closes in, even getting mad if it can’t. But if V1 is the one chasing, it becomes the one rapidly gaining the distance. This movement patterns are also reflected in the colors of its wings.
The disk animals can surround him from the start of the fight while some of them go up against V2. It's not something Hibiki orders them to do, rather, they're intelligent enough to do it.
It's not his profile, but there is a stated speed for Hibiki as 100 m/s. That should still allow him to close in fast enough.
I assumed V2 would attempt the same tactic or at least have the same tendency to run at its opponents since I have only seen two of V2's fights, both of which are against V1.
Hibiki did face mobility-type enemies, though not on the same level as V2, but they do the same thing of running and jumping around to annoy him. V2 higher durability probably doesn't matter since if Hibiki does land a hit on it, V2 will get paralyzed, and then he could make it blow up via dura neg attacks.
I don’t mind this, and it’s probably already in the voting phase for this thread.
That’s fast but like- I’ve tested it in-game myself and V2’s slides are about as fast as if not faster than V1 riding its rocket (which is 300 m/s (100 u/s) and already used in calcs. Note that the rocket slows down when ridden so it ends up at around ~65 u/s)
There is a chance V2 will indeed try to get close to Hibiki if the latter tries to widen the distance, but I feel it can avoid the sound attacks well enough by dashing multiple times and then sliding away. And the point of higher durability is to survive the offensive animals' attacks.
That would be cool, although aren't non-English threads banned or something?
Can V1/V2 beat John EBG? (
