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I’ll think on this
I downgraded LOTM below 1-A like a few months ago, but I was in the midst of revising the verse so before the downgrades could even be applied, I did another CRT to re-upgrade it back up lol
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Kiana Kaslana Vs Irontomb (Honkai: Star Rail Vs Honkai Impact 3rd)
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I could give more context about Einstein applying the concept of transfinite numbers to the Imaginary Tree one and how if they exhausted the Honkai (Imaginary Energy) in Earth, or their own universe, it's still the lowest cardinal number and mind you their universe is a Hilbert Space universe whose dimensions of space can be infinite terms of dimensional axis with each dimensions being infinite in size, that is the context basically and this is supported by the use of Continuum Hypothesis
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Not really when HooH and Terminus existPretty much this, also fym CoF is Temu Aeon? Aeon is Temu CoF
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The argument I have in mind doesn’t need this
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yayy
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Bro is really tryna shamelessly get an upgrade for the verse mid vs thread
More like just HooH.
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Anyways Ima go snore, I have a uni exam tomorrow
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no one has to knowBro is really tryna shamelessly get an upgrade for the verse mid vs thread
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I was gonna write smthn funny before leaving but I realize that aren’t both Kiana and Terminus sleeping lol? Seems related to future HSR lore.Bro is really tryna shamelessly get an upgrade for the verse mid vs thread
More like just HooH.
Anyhow Terminus would necessarily be beyond or bare minimum equal to the Cocoon, otherwise it can’t be the Aeon of Finality
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Literally lmao.
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Terminus is Aeon, CoF is Manifestation of Terminus, Kiana is their emanator.
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Could I have a scan of that? Because from what I've read, they're targeting the universe where he is (even if technically, with the CN translation, he only targeted one or more galaxies).
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Emanator but minimum level aeonsTerminus is Aeon, CoF is Manifestation of Terminus, Kiana is their emanator.
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Here
Also no, there are dozens of other statements that directly say Universe. It's meant to be understood similarly to how Himeko calls the Tree a "Galaxy' and it's branches "Universes"
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Um, this is why everything in the universe died btw. Because Irontomb attacked the Imaginary Energy required for Intelligence so all Intelligent life was affected throughout the Tree, because every Aeon controls the part of the Imaginary responsible for a specific part of the whole Tree
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And we're still downplaying Complete Irontomb to 3-C 
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Metaphorical 3-C Irontomb
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"Every feat in HSR is Metaphorical"
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i think ive saw maximum of maximum of dogshit takes after seeing someone say hsr scaling is fraudulent but i apologise for not having 300 thousand infinity statements of transcendence to be high 1A with infinite super 67 quality
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"GREAT EXISTENCES CAN ONLY BE RESTRAINED IF THEY WISH TO BE RESTRAINED"
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Btw if I see 1 more post of someone attempting to scale Complete Irontomb to 3-C I'm changing this match to Herrscher of Finality Kiana
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Do you not know yet? Every feat in HSR is a mistranslation.
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SIX SEVEN!! WOOOOOW
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Um, how did this match go, guys?
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If we compare the two explanations, Zandar's theory speaks of the workings of the leaf worlds...
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What? Both Zandar’s and HI3 Imaginary Tree say that branches are the future timelines. This is what Nous does when he decides the future. And that leafs are merely the present.
He’s just describing the Real part of the Tree. So stop spreading misinfo.
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Yes, in Amphoreus there are many, for example, "galaxy transformed into universe," but I'm not saying everything is a translation error, just certain passages. I'm not going to talk about the scales of the emanators, etc., because it would be too long, but for me, HSR is far from reaching 1-B (the VSBW scale of the IT is completely absurd), so Kiana wins easily. Iron Tomb, yes.
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I can make it worse. "Every feat in HSR is metaphorical"
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Doesn’t matter where the Tree scales to because Aeons affect the entire cosmology by virtue of their ontology. And you would bare minimum agree that the whole hoyo cosmo is 1-B one way or another.
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Even with the most blatant downplay possible, Hoyoverse cosmology would be at very least 11-D
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With the same theory of him literally talking about Tree being the universe and the universe containing these leafs
If youre applying your own scale separate from the pages to dictate this vote then I'm not counting your vote. Hell, might as well change this to Herrscher of Finality Kiana.
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I actually support this decision, make him pay
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I clearly stated that whether I agree with vsbw scaling or not has nothing to do with the other arguments, in any case, kiana win.
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Zandar's theory can be summarized as follows:
Leaves = Leaf Worlds
Branches = Imaginary Energy (Paths)
Overall, the theory describes the workings of the Leaf Worlds.
Please note that I said "overall," not "totality."
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And Tree = Universe. Unless you’re trying to say the Tree = Leaf then nuke the entire cosmology to 3-C, including Honkai Impact 3rd. We would love to see 3-C Kiana.
Like all this extrapolation but where do you think the Leaves and Branches are connected to???
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The Imaginary Tree is officially confirmed to be the universe everyone talks about in-game. Irontomb indeed destroyed the entirety of it before once, as whether if it reached Imaginary Space may be questionable. Though, HSR is definitely 1-B but I do agree the Aeons and top tier Emanators are not quite on-par with Finality Kiana and Kevin as of yet.
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