MHA : Gearshift revisions and AP upgrade for Izuku Midoriya.

[MANOFGOD7]

Gearshift revisions​

We are here to revise one of the major movesets of gearshift : Quintuple Detroit Smash. There is a major problem about how it's interpreted on Deku's profile page ;

Detroit Smash Quintuple: Deku enhances himself with Gearshift and performs five Detroit Smashes in quick succession.

My aim is to prove that QDS is not a consecutive moveset but an instant one. In short,Deku didn't use five Detroit Smashes in quick succession,he put five Detroit Smashes into one hit. Moreover, there's absolutely no information whether from manga or anime to prove why it was a consecutive move.

Before making this CRT,I discussed it in the MHA general discussion forum, and a few addressed my arguments. The most notable person was @XSOULOFCINDERX , and he brought up his view on it. But I told him that according to this, saying that someone who is getting perception blitzed and slowed down to snail speed level can perceive or register anything happening is invalid. Therefore saying that QDS is consecutive because AFO could only perceive everything as one when Deku just actually did five fast ones doesn't work.

Reasons why QDS is instant and not consecutive​

1. Nomenclature of the attack(the naming)
Quintuple already means to increase five times or fivefold. More of this aspect to back it up is that based on the naming, QDS should be very much similar to another moveset that has occurred twice in the series,the Double Detroit Smash, where the only notable and relevant difference between the two moves is 2 and 5. In the MHA cannon movies,when Deku and All Might and Deku and Bakugo performed Double Detroit Smash,it is seen that they synchronized their movements to make their attacks land at the same instant. This is why Double Detroit Smash(DDS) has its name, because in BOTH cases, two Detroit Smashes were put into one hit, doubling the power of their Detroit Smash AP, and that's why it is accepted to divide the overall AP of both feats by 2 in the calcs.

2. AFO's statements and comparison
AFO reaffirms that he's still being perception blitzed yet he managed to call Quintuple Detroit Smash "A lighter BLOW, than before(comparison to first overdrive)". AFO is being perception blitzed to the extent that he's beyond confused, because after throwing up his own blood obviously because Deku had hit him,he STILL managed to ask himself what Deku did to him.
So, how is it possible that someone who keeps mentioning that he's getting blitzed and cannot perceive anything becomes casually sure that his opponent landed a single strike on him which is weaker than another former single strike??

3. There is no showing or drawing of the move.
What I'm talking about over here is that, this time the writer did not give a demonstration of how these 5 multiple punches look like. All Might's mighty 300 blows and even Deku's infinite 100% consecutive punches had demonstrations, and so if the QDS which is just composed of 5 punches didn't get illustrated, why did the writer choose such a decision?? It's simple, because the writer doesn't want to give an inaccurate illustration of the move. This adds to the consistency that QDS is best interpreted as instant than consecutive.

4. Gearshift is BROKEN!!!
As I've already said, DDS happened because two users synchronized their movements to make sure their attacks hit at the same time to produce greater strength. This is directly proportional to speed,true or false?? True, because they need to use the same speed. What's the most broken aspect of gearshift?? It's SPEED. All knowledgeable MHA members are very much aware of how gearshift is the ultimate speed quirk in MHA. INSANE SPEED MANIPULATION via a mere single touch, blitzing opponents to snail speed levels, ignoring inertia and laws of physics and reality, Deku,our efficient, never holding back MC deciding to use second gear to save a dying All Might when there were THREE HIGHER levels of speed available,and more. It's not an exaggeration to say that gearshift is capable of using its insane speed to grant Deku greater strength, since that's what double OFA users with farrrrr exceedingly lower speeds in comparison were able to do too.

5. Deku really surpassed prime All Might.
Some fans interpret it as one of the writer's ways of truly showcasing that Deku had surpassed prime All Might. From the All Might statement,five hits would have finished USJ nomu, and so if COINCIDENTALLY Deku can really put 5 of those punches into one,then this means Deku is finishing the nomu with one hit,the QDS.

AP upgrade via gearshift.​

Now I'll have to explain something a little bit about AFO's comparison.

After AFO took the Quintuple Detroit Smash hit,he said that it was weaker than the first overdrive and included that it could have been stronger if Deku added fa jin to it. AFO is not the user of these quirks, yet he's giving such a suggestion. This means that Deku could have used QDS + fa jin(gearshift is generally noted as one of the quirks that can work along with fa jin very well,alongside the fact that QDS is a single strike and fa jin is mainly known to enhance the strength of a single strike), and this combo is already making him 25 times stronger (x5 from both fa jin and gearshift). Deku didn't do this though. Why? There are reasons to explain this.

All MHA knowledgeable members know that Deku doesn't hold back, especially on AFO and Shiggy. We also know that Deku is a very efficient fighter, alongside being the user of these two quirks. From observations,it is seen that Deku invested all the fa jin he used for punching into gearshift: overdrive not just once, but TWICE during the fight in the UA flying fortress. From this,it can be concluded that overdrive is absolutely gearshift's most powerful asset, and that is absolutely why Deku invested fa jin to overdrive alone when he was dishing out his punches despite knowing that he was making himself 5 times stronger with QDS alone. In short, Deku didn't waste fa jin on QDS because Overdrive Detroit Smash + fa jin >>> Quintuple Detroit Smash + fa jin. This also means that overdrive alone supplies more power than QDS, Deku chose Overdrive Detroit Smash and fa jin over QDS with fa jin(overdrive >>> x5)

Therefore, even though Deku didn't do QDS + fa jin combo, it's not something that he couldn't do, but because there was a better option it wasn't needed. So an extra x5 multiplier for Deku due to QDS can be accepted for gearshift Deku and that the power he wields with gearshift can get higher with overdrive.

So if majority of my reasons make sense and majority agreement is achieved, Deku would be granted a x5 multiplier due to Quintuple Detroit Smash, getting him to tier 5-C, even higher with gearshift, overdrive. Like this :

Spoiler: How it would look

Multi-City Block level, Multi-Continent level with Full Cowl (With a single punch, he cleared the skies from Japan to the United States of America while on his last legs.[54][Statistic Value 6 : 42.37 petatons of TNT] After going past his limits, he could decimate Rampage Form Dark Might, whom he was unable to harm earlier in his Golden Age Form[55]), far higher with 100% (Stated that One For All was slightly stronger than what All Might had at his disposal[40][Statistic Value 7 : 2.54 exatons of TNT]), even higher with Fa Jin(Fa Jin can store the combined power of his Detroit Smash Quintuple,[34] making its release more than five times stronger than normal.[Statistic Value 8 : 12.71 exatons of TNT]),Moon level with gearshift (Gearshift allows Deku to output five punches in an instant with Quintuple Detroit Smash,thereby making him 5 times stronger [Statistics value 9 : 63.55 exatons of TNT]),This power can increase even further by using Gearshift: Overdrive, a technique so powerful it could punch a hole into Shigaraki.[34] Was stated to be able to charge enough energy to annihilate Shigaraki's body with a single attack, leaving no trace of him behind[33])

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Quintuple Detroit Smash is five individual Detroit smashes.

You can see this from the panel of the attack, that AFO is being punched downwards 5 times with 5 separate craters/shockwaves to indicate each hit.

He’s not multiplying his strength by 5x randomly. The entire point of Gearshift is that it is an increase of speed, not a way of bursting with damage via 5x amp. That is what Fa Jin does.

Also I don’t see any actual rebuttal to AFO perceiving the five hits as one due to the speed gap? Deku is moving so fast that he hit AFO four times in the prior scene and he didn’t even react (in the manga) until he was already in the air after the fourth one. He cannot perceive Deku, per his own words, and can only try to hit him with prediction.

The showcase for Gearshift is its speed, and Quintuple specifically shows that by having him hit five times in practically the same instant. It’s not a direct 5x amp, as the only strength amp for Deku is Fa Jin, which he is not using here.

 

[MANOFGOD7]

Bump

Wow you are very fast lol. I wanted to say that I wasn't done presenting everything, but you were already done replying. Thank you for your attention, let's start the discussion.

Quintuple Detroit Smash is five individual Detroit smashes

*as one Smash.

You can see this from the panel of the attack, that AFO is being punched downwards 5 times with 5 separate craters/shockwaves to indicate each hit.

From which panel?? This one?? I can't SEE what you are saying. This is the major reason for why I am doing this. You can't see AFO being punched downwards,we never saw how Deku punched him. The only thing we SEE is that Deku had finished punching and was moving out of the place, that's it. Do those 5 craters show up consecutively?? No. All five craters are seen in only one panel, they don't get formed gradually in multiple panels. Seems pretty instant if you ask me.

So what I see in the panel is a single shockwave beam of the Quintuple Detroit Smash going down on Shiggy, one massive crater and Deku logging out in style after punching.

He’s not multiplying his strength by 5x randomly. The entire point of Gearshift is that it is an increase of speed, not a way of bursting with damage via 5x amp. That is what Fa Jin does.

I have addressed this in my fourth point. Please have a look at it now.

Also I don’t see any actual rebuttal to AFO perceiving the five hits as one due to the speed gap? Deku is moving so fast that he hit AFO four times in the prior scene and he didn’t even react (in the manga) until he was already in the air after the fourth one. He cannot perceive Deku, per his own words, and can only try to hit him with prediction.

I'm glad you agree with me.

The showcase for Gearshift is its speed, and Quintuple specifically shows that by having him hit five times in practically the same instant. It’s not a direct 5x amp, as the only strength amp for Deku is Fa Jin, which he is not using here.

Yes, gearshift is mainly busted in the speed aspect. Saying that gearshift does not contribute to his strength is invalid,it is even stated on his profile page that his strength is far higher with gearshift but to an unknown extent.

 

[Damage3245]

I agree with King and disagree with this proposal.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

following to see the arguments on both sides, neutral for now

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Why the **** was I called out by name when I wasn't the only one arguing this shit?

 

[MANOFGOD7]

Why the **** was I called out by name when I wasn't the only one arguing this shit?

Oops lol

I was about to invite you, but if you're already here,then it's fine.

As I said you were the most "notable" person debating with moi.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Kingofwolves already laid out everything I could've said, just a lot more eloquently since I would have butchered my wording.

 

[MANOFGOD7]

Kingofwolves already laid out everything I could've said, just a lot more eloquently since I would have butchered my wording.

Ah I see

His arguments(and by extension,yours and Damage3245) are not strong, I've already addressed it with a reply, and if he probably waited a little while before replying,he would have seen my request to redraw from replying because I wasn't done with the forum,and some of my reasons were counters to his arguments already.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ah I see

His arguments(and by extension,yours and Damage3245) are not strong, I've already addressed it with a reply, and if he probably waited a little while before replying,he would have seen my request to redraw from replying because I wasn't done with the forum,and some of my reasons were counters to his arguments already.

Well we think your arguments aren't strong either, hence why we argued against them, so that statement is meaningless tbh. In any case, we need more staff regardless.

 

[MANOFGOD7]

Well we think your arguments aren't strong either, hence why we argued against them, so that statement is meaningless tbh. In any case, we need more staff regardless.

No one has argued against my arguments, not even against one of them. As I've already said, @Kingofwolves999 started too early, and he just brought up his own points, which I have countered.

Ah I see. How do I get into contact with them?? I've already tagged @TheRustyOne and @Therefir though.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Wow you are very fast lol. I wanted to say that I wasn't done presenting everything, but you were already done replying. Thank you for your attention, let's start the discussion.

*as one Smash.

From which panel?? This one?? I can't SEE what you are saying. This is the major reason for why I am doing this. You can't see AFO being punched downwards,we never saw how Deku punched him. The only thing we SEE is that Deku had finished punching and was moving out of the place, that's it. Do those 5 craters show up consecutively?? No. All five craters are seen in only one panel, they don't get formed gradually in multiple panels. Seems pretty instant if you ask me.

So what I see in the panel is a single shockwave beam of the Quintuple Detroit Smash going down on Shiggy, one massive crater and Deku logging out in style after punching.

I have addressed this in my fourth point. Please have a look at it now.

I'm glad you agree with me.

Yes, gearshift is mainly busted in the speed aspect. Saying that gearshift does not contribute to his strength is invalid,it is even stated on his profile page that his strength is far higher with gearshift but to an unknown extent.

There are five craters BECAUSE he hit him five times. Any other interpretation is illogical and your arguments are not making any sense or actually have backing for why he didn’t hit him five times

First off: ShigAFO BOUNCES off the ground after the initial Overdrive punch launched him down. Then, WHILE he’s in the air from bouncing, Deku hits him and he is punched further into the ground.

Next, we see from this punch that there are 5 craters surrounding ShigAFO.

Why are there 5 specifically? Heck what makes a SINGLE crater? It’s a PUNCH. One punch is not going to create 5 separate craters/shockwaves, each centered on ShigAFO going further into the dirt.

The focus is on SPEED, not improving strength. So to showcase speed, he attacks five times at once, so fast that AFO thinks it was one punch.

Also, another issue: one punch would not build up Fa Jin

Fa Jin functions by REPEATED motions being stored to release them in a single instance. A single kick does not store Fa Jin to a high amount. REPEATEDLY doing a kick, or flexing muscles, or even PUNCHING, will.

Deku says that the earlier Quintuple refilled Fa Jin. That is ONLY possible if he did a repeated motion. Meaning he HIMSELF is claiming he did a repeated motion during the Quintuple that was stored in Fa Jin. And that motion was punching.

Ergo: he punched five separate times. Quintuple is not a multiplier.

It feels like you looked at the wording and ignored every other piece of information about Gearshift to come the conclusion you have.

 

[Kingofwolves999]

Also your tags do not work, only Staff can tag people.

And claiming I didn’t argue against your points is ridiculous, you posted a thread with statements and I responded. Your response didn’t say anything new, it was just a repeat of what I already could grasp you were saying.

Your argument is simply not true.

 

[MANOFGOD7]

There are five craters BECAUSE he hit him five times. Any other interpretation is illogical and your arguments are not making any sense or actually have backing for why he didn’t hit him five times

First off: ShigAFO BOUNCES off the ground after the initial Overdrive punch launched him down. Then, WHILE he’s in the air from bouncing, Deku hits him and he is punched further into the ground.

Next, we see from this punch that there are 5 craters surrounding ShigAFO.

Why are there 5 specifically? Heck what makes a SINGLE crater? It’s a PUNCH. One punch is not going to create 5 separate craters/shockwaves, each centered on ShigAFO going further into the dirt.

I shall admit that your interpretation is part of the logical ones, but saying that it's the ONLY logical explanation is invalid. It's not merely coincidental that the writer drew five craters when Deku was literally using five punches, but there cannot be only one interpretation for this.

The interpretation that it's five craters in one crater.​

It's very clear that it can also be interpreted as just one big crater with five craters within(five in one,Quintuple). In fact, that's really how a massive amount of fans, including me, see it and the fact that it had five craters was not even noticeable to me until you brought it up.

A few reasons why this interpretation is more valid than yours.​

1. The writer's demonstration of the smash with "SMASH".​

When we look at the circled parts here,we can SEE that the writer drew SMASH in a way that, all 5 of them are in the SAME ALIGNMENT. It's blatantly obvious that we can clearly and fully see only one SMASH, but it is demonstrated that there's actually five SMASH available in the illustration(one shown as five, Quintuple).

2. The writer's demonstration of the QDS shockwave.
It's also very clear that instead of the writer drawing the punches or fists like he always does, this time he decides to represent the punches with a shockwave, and it's a SINGLE shockwave beam. Don't you think it would have been fitting for the writer to actually draw JUST five different shockwaves going down on him to represent each hit?? Why is it that we are only seeing a single shockwave beam when we are being told that he's performing five punches?? This also correlates with how the Double Detroit Smash in BOTH cases got represented as single shockwave beams,over here and here, and it's definitely obvious that the writer decided to use that representation to represent QDS, because they are very much alike.

Therefore, there are about 3 instances where the writer himself is illustrating a five in one attack(Quintuple attack)

So far, you have only justified that QDS is consecutive because of the five craters, alongside saying that a single punch must only make a single crater(which can be massively flawed generally).

The focus is on SPEED, not improving strength. So to showcase speed, he attacks five times at once, so fast that AFO thinks it was one punch.

I have massive problems with your arguments here :

1. You are going back to use the same arguments XSoul was using after AGREEING WITH ME that it's not valid. You are claiming that AFO thinks that it's a single strike because it was very fast, but we already said that AFO was being perception blitzed to the extent that he couldn't even think anymore, and with him reaffirming that he's still undergoing perception blitz, which means that he still can't even think, he could now suddenly think about QDS as a single strike?? And you my friend, YOU brought it up that this man couldn't even perceive the first four consecutive hits Deku gave to him at the beginning, yet he somehow managed to figure out that Deku didn't use fa jin with QDS, like he had done with the first overdrive after using those four moves he couldn't see to store up fa jin : "likely because he didn't use that glow he'd BUILT UP"

2. So are you really sure that this was one of the best ways for Deku to showcase the insane speed he had got from the physics breaking,reality warping 120% OFA power?? So, Deku after getting astronomically superior to an out of prime All Might, decided that he just has to perform 5 consecutive punches to make us believe that he has become insanely fast, when he was there to WITNESS this out of prime All Might perform 300 punches at once(on USJ nomu)??

five times at once

In short, Quintuple

Also, another issue: one punch would not build up Fa Jin

Yes, ONLY one punch would not build up fa jin, but fa jin can STILL store the kinetic energy of one punch........

Fa Jin functions by REPEATED motions being stored to release them in a single instance. A single kick does not store Fa Jin to a high amount. REPEATEDLY doing a kick, or flexing muscles, or even PUNCHING, will.

Ahhh yes,AT LAST, the fa jin counter argument for QDS. This is the greatest reason for why people generally don't accept QDS as instant.

Fa jin MAJORLY functions by repeated motions being stored to release them in a single instance. A single kick does not store fa jin to a high amount, but it STILL STORES fa jin. When Deku uses 3 repetitive motions to build up fa jin, he is basically using one move three times to build up fa jin for a GREATER BLOW, because storing the kinetic energy of just one move means that he's not even making himself stronger. So, fa jin REALLY works by storing kinetic energy, but it can build up on it when you add the KE of another move to it. That was until Deku got GEARSHIFT. If my claim that QDS is instant is really true, that doesn't mean that it must be consecutive because it REFILLED Fa jin, because if fa jin can still store the kinetic energy of one punch, it means that it can still store the kinetic energy of QDS, but the problem is, QDS is not like the average single strike, it's a single strike worth the kinetic energy of FIVE STRIKES. So, this means that QDS would allow Deku to store the kinetic energy of five strikes IN AN INSTANT and that is massively QUICKER than storing the kinetic energy of five strikes gradually(but very fast as you say). And what did you say is gearshift's specialty again?? It's about him mainly becoming quicker = SPEED. Do you see how it's being interlinked?? Is the consistency coming to life??

Am I making sense??

Deku says that the earlier Quintuple refilled Fa Jin. That is ONLY possible if he did a repeated motion. Meaning he HIMSELF is claiming he did a repeated motion during the Quintuple that was stored in Fa Jin. And that motion was punching.

Yes, Deku said that the Quintuple attack refilled fa jin. That is NOT only possible with a repeated motion. A refill can happen INSTANTLY OR GRADUALLY. Please check again, he himself DID NOT CLAIM ANYTHING LIKE THAT. He said that the Quintuple attack from earlier gave him a refill of the third's fa jin. This part HEAVILY adds more consistency to my claim that QDS is instant and not consecutive.

Lemme cook.

So,in all the various instances where Deku is using fa jin, it's either we straight up see him doing repeated motions or we don't see him doing it but he can explain how he got it. When we look here and here,we can see him doing his explanation. We already know that Deku is a great nerd, and he does know how to explain and go into details about things well. In the first one, he said that by flexing and extending his legs to store up kinetic energy, he charged fa jin. In the second one,he said that by flexing and extending his muscles to build up kinetic energy,he got fa jin. None of the terms I've highlighted were used when he described how he got his stored kinetic energy from QDS, and all these terms blatantly point to consecutive. Rather,he just said that his Quintuple attack(an attack five times worth his normal attacks, apparently supposed to be consecutive but nothing confirming it when this was the perfect opportunity to confirm it) gave him a refill(which can mean instant or gradual, but for my reasons it's definitely referring to.......) of fa jin.

Once again, doesn't it look consistent??

Ergo: he punched five separate times. Quintuple is not a multiplier.

Ergo : he punched five times in a single punch. Quintuple is a multiplier.

It feels like you looked at the wording and ignored every other piece of information about Gearshift to come the conclusion you have.

I don't think so my friend.

Also your tags do not work, only Staff can tag people.

Oh I'm very much aware of that, I was told about it. But I still decided to do it,cos why not?

And claiming I didn’t argue against your points is ridiculous, you posted a thread with statements and I responded. Your response didn’t say anything new, it was just a repeat of what I already could grasp you were saying.

Ah I see.

You really haven't seriously tackled any of my reasons. You've only brought up your own points so far. For example, I want you to oppose my arguments that QDS and DDS are very similar. Is it purely coincidental that after DDS has already happened twice, the writer felt like making Deku do QDS instead of something else like Quintuple Texas Smash or Septuple Wyoming Smash?? It's simple, because he wanted a blatant comparison to prove that 120% Deku has gone beyond the limits of OFA.

Your argument is simply not true.

Really?? How about now.................

 

[Damage3245]

Am I making sense??

Not really, I have to say.

In the anime, we have can hear the sound effects of five distinct Smashes after Deku hits Tomura with his Detroit Smash Quintuple. If he were really just punching Tomura once but with the force of five Detroit Smashes, then we wouldn't be hearing multiple individual attacks.

In fact, at about 12 minutes and a half minutes into Episode 13 of Season 7, we get a perfect visualization of what Izuku is doing as he is punching Tomura multiple times in order to build up his Fajin. It's not just one punch.

 

[MANOFGOD7]

Not really, I have to say.

In the anime, we have can hear the sound effects of five distinct Smashes after Deku hits Tomura with his Detroit Smash Quintuple. If he were really just punching Tomura once but with the force of five Detroit Smashes, then we wouldn't be hearing multiple individual attacks.

Really??

You want to use the animation for this?? The anime is some animator's interpretation of what the manga shows.

Mangaka >>>>> animator.

Therefore manga over anime ma boi.
My aim is to bring Horikoshi's presentation to life.

Horikoshi made all 5 craters available in a single panel even while Shiggy had not finished taking the hit.

Horikoshi didn't draw impact frames lol.

In fact, at about 12 minutes and a half minutes into Episode 13 of Season 7, we get a perfect visualization of what Izuku is doing as he is punching Tomura multiple times in order to build up his Fajin. It's not just one punch.

Ehhhh not really. We still didn't SEE how Deku really punched in that one too, they stayed faithful to that part though.

Overall : Mangaka >>>>> Animator and it's not even debatable.

Isn't there anything else you want to oppose, like this :

You really haven't seriously tackled any of my reasons. You've only brought up your own points so far. For example, I want you to oppose my arguments that QDS and DDS are very similar. Is it purely coincidental that after DDS has already happened twice, the writer felt like making Deku do QDS instead of something else like Quintuple Texas Smash or Septuple Wyoming Smash?? It's simple, because he wanted a blatant comparison to prove that 120% Deku has gone beyond the limits of OFA.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Horikoshi literally helped them with the anime this season so if that was wrong he would have told them to change it.

 

[MANOFGOD7]

Horikoshi literally helped them with the anime this season so if that was wrong he would have told them to change it.

This season my dear, not last season (season 7)

Why are we bringing anime adaptation into this all of a sudden??

 

[Duedate8898]

I find myself agreeing with King and Damage, and reject OP's proposal

 

[Damage3245]

This season my dear, not last season (season 7)

Why are we bringing anime adaptation into this all of a sudden??

In cases where there is potential ambiguity in the manga and we have conflicting interpretations, we can look at the official adaptation of it for further information and clarity.

 

[Sammy818]

Real yes king moment

 

[Reyne]

I know this is a late response and that the thread can probably be closed, but I'm not really sure if it's either interpretation.

I can hear several crumbling sounds, but it doesn't necessarily mean there were several punches. I don't think it's 5x the energy being released at once, but energy being output in 5 pulses. Gearshift ignores the laws of physics, so momentum doesn't really apply. He winded up once to actually hit Shiggi, and then accelerated 4 more times. The difference is like pushing against something to jolt/shake it forward while keeping contact, rather than pulling back and then ramming into it.

Regardless, it's not like there's any benifit for Deku.

 

[MANOFGOD7]

I know this is a late response and that the thread can probably be closed, but I'm not really sure if it's either interpretation.

I can hear several crumbling sounds, but it doesn't necessarily mean there were several punches. I don't think it's 5x the energy being released at once, but energy being output in 5 pulses. Gearshift ignores the laws of physics, so momentum doesn't really apply. He winded up once to actually hit Shiggi, and then accelerated 4 more times. The difference is like pushing against something to jolt/shake it forward while keeping contact, rather than pulling back and then ramming into it.

Regardless, it's not like there's any benifit for Deku.

Oh don't worry,you are free to respond anytime.

Sorry guys, this forum hasn't yet been closed because I've not made significant attempts to end the arguments,and that's also because I'm searching for some rare info to support one of my points. If anyone can get me into contact with a professional artist,I'll be very grateful.

I don't think it's 5x the energy being released at once, but energy being output in 5 pulses.

Whyyyyyyyy??

Gearshift ignores the laws of physics, so momentum doesn't really apply.

I don't really understand this. If you are interested to explain to me,please do so.

The difference is like pushing against something to jolt/shake it forward while keeping contact, rather than pulling back and then ramming into it.

Really??

We did not see anything like this, so how sure are you??

Does it seem coincidental that Deku did a Quintuple Detroit Smash after a Double Detroit Smash had already happened,and with the DDS,we could see 2 Detroit Smashes becoming 1 attack/smash??

 

[Reyne]

Oh don't worry,you are free to respond anytime.

Sorry guys, this forum hasn't yet been closed because I've not made significant attempts to end the arguments,and that's also because I'm searching for some rare info to support one of my points. If anyone can get me into contact with a professional artist,I'll be very grateful.

Whyyyyyyyy??

I don't really understand this. If you are interested to explain to me,please do so.

Really??

We did not see anything like this, so how sure are you??

Does it seem coincidental that Deku did a Quintuple Detroit Smash after a Double Detroit Smash had already happened,and with the DDS,we could see 2 Detroit Smashes becoming 1 attack/smash??

It explains the 5 visible breaks in the ground without any drawn motion for consecutive punches.

Because it ignores the laws of inertia (blankly physics as well), that means the creation of momentum and energy is separate from movement through a physical space. He went from low gear back into a higher gear and general is not seen using airforce for propulsion while using Gearshift.

That's the thing, I'm not. The thing is, the ability you describe is just Fa Jin and is not a thing anyone mentions Gearshift is capable of. Had it been five punches, or 4 follow up punches in quick succession, Horikoshi would've done SOMETHING different with the art. Instead, we have 5 visible breaks in the ground and no extraneous movement. If we had been told that Gearshift does a similar store and release function to Fa Jin, which in a series that does a lot of explaining, things would be different. As is, it's pretty vague and kind of just vibes based.