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Dragon Ball's paraconsistent/nonduality removal

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Here it's mentioned that Time Power is a nonduality because it contains history and nonexistent history but as some users have pointed out recently that it wouldn't qualify as you would need to prove nonexistent history serves as a direct negation to history (for example it needs to be like history and non-history, not nonexistent history). Unless further evidence can be brought up, I believe the ability should be removed.
 
I agree I guess. Two opposing realms don't really qualify, and they'd need to be actual categories in and of itself too rather than having some plane thats "Existence" and another plane thats "Non-existence" as it's not in a categorical sense, and NEP on VSBW in some capacity still exists, and isn't really nonexistence but instead a weird form of existence and thus a realm that is non-existence wont categorically exhaust a realm that is existence.
 
The ability was accepted due the fact that old Nonduality page literally stated existence and nonexistence/void is logical duality by default

Nonexistence is literally, oppose and negate existence by default.

and NEP on VSBW in some capacity still exist
NEP page literally said we can't index true nothingess in philosophical sense, this nothingess in fiction should at least exist in some sense for us to index, by this logic, we should delete NEP as an ability because we can't index nothingness, nonexistence in it truest sense.
 
The ability was accepted due the fact that old Nonduality page literally stated existence and nonexistence/void is logical duality by default

Nonexistence is literally, oppose and negate existence by default.


NEP page literally said we can't index true nothingess in philosophical sense, this nothingess in fiction should at least exist in some sense for us to index, by this logic, we should delete NEP as an ability because we can't index nothingness, nonexistence in it truest sense.

Well it then comes to the idea that the whole thing is horseshit when NEP is 100% always just weird existence or glorified incorporeality and never truly diametrically opposed to actual existence.

Also just because there is a nonexistent realm and an existent realm doesnt even mean time power has to occupy two different truth values. Even DT says something similar that even if they occupy the same space it doesn't make the space nondual. In this case it's being encompassed by a force or power. Classical logic obviously isn't nondual because you can formulate true and false within the same system.
 
Well it then comes to the idea that the whole thing is horseshit when NEP is 100% always just weird existence or glorified incorporeality and never truly diametrically opposed to actual existence.

Also just because there is a nonexistent realm and an existent realm doesnt even mean time power has to occupy two different truth values. Even DT says something similar that even if they occupy the same space it doesn't make the space nondual. In this case it's being encompassed by a force or power. Classical logic obviously isn't nondual because you can formulate true and false within the same system.
Like if we acknowledge that PP requires two exhaustive and logically opposing things, and then say it's suddenly different when fiction portrays nonexistence as being some existent thing. Then that's kinda weird no? It contradicts the whole ability and makes no sense since then it's not actually in logical opposition.
 
Also just because there is a nonexistent realm and an existent realm doesnt even mean time power has to occupy two different truth values. Even DT says something similar that even if they occupy the same space it doesn't make the space nondual. In this case it's being encompassed by a force or power. Classical logic obviously isn't nondual because you can formulate true and false within the same system.
Because everything exists within Time Power, it is the originator of everything in the verse. Similar to Dao. Mean everything is in singular state within the Time Power

Like if we acknowledge that PP requires two exhaustive and logically opposing things, and then say it's suddenly different when fiction portrays nonexistence as being some existent thing. Then that's kinda weird no? It contradicts the whole ability and makes no sense since then it's not actually in logical opposition.
So you want to propose we make NEP strictly philosophical stuff?
 
Dragon Ball Heroes transduality came from existent and nonexistent concepts and realms. I disagree with this thread
 
Dragon Ball Heroes transduality came from existent and nonexistent concepts and realms. I disagree with this thread
I believe this point would tackle against your disagreement.
Well it then comes to the idea that the whole thing is horseshit when NEP is 100% always just weird existence or glorified incorporeality and never truly diametrically opposed to actual existence.

Also just because there is a nonexistent realm and an existent realm doesnt even mean time power has to occupy two different truth values. Even DT says something similar that even if they occupy the same space it doesn't make the space nondual. In this case it's being encompassed by a force or power. Classical logic obviously isn't nondual because you can formulate true and false within the same system.
 
No knowledge on this page or anything but:
Here it's mentioned that Time Power is a nonduality because it contains history and nonexistent history but as some users have pointed out recently that it wouldn't qualify as you would need to prove nonexistent history serves as a direct negation to history (for example it needs to be like history and non-history, not nonexistent history). Unless further evidence can be brought up, I believe the ability should be removed.
Even if it was the latter, I’m not sure how this qualified for Nonduality to begin with since the way you’re describing it is as if these 2 things are parts of a single whole, which doesn’t qualify for any conception of the hax. Instead, these 2 states must relate to the same particular—as in, contain History that is “both existent and non-existent”.
Because everything exists within Time Power, it is the originator of everything in the verse. Similar to Dao. Mean everything is in singular state within the Time Power
Why is this thing rated Low 1-C instead of 1-A then?
 
No knowledge on this page or anything but:

Even if it was the latter, I’m not sure how this qualified for Nonduality to begin with since the way you’re describing it is as if these 2 things are parts of a single whole, which doesn’t qualify for any conception of the hax. Instead, these 2 states must relate to the same particular—as in, contain History that is “both existent and non-existent”.

Why is this thing rated Low 1-C instead of 1-A then?
tier 0 since its the dao
 
Time Power is not comparable to the Tao Te Ching’s Dao in any way. I do not know why you all are using it as an analogy. This is not PP, nor is it Low 1'A or whatever.

Do not give the supporters weird ideas or you will end up spending an entire day arguing against a Low 1-A thread for DBH in the future.
I knew it sounded hella weird (considering it’s called a “Power”). I wasn’t gonna bother reading that page tho to confirm hehe

Js nuke the hax ye
 
It’s sad that the only active staff member who actually participates in PP CRT’s is vietthai
 
I agree with the removal. A set containing something existent and nonexistent doesn't make it nondual, nor would a type of energy composing something existent and composing something nonexistent make it nondual. It has to be a single thing, not a type of thing, that is both simultaneously.
Matter is a thing that can compose hot things and not hot things, in proper duality, but that doesn't mean it's paraconsistent.
We don't even have to start discussing whether Dragon Balls "nonexistence" is a proper duality, it wouldn't qualify regardless.
 
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