BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Crobatman44]

Wasn't there a sandbox of the updated, AP scaling chain? Could someone link it?

Would like this as well.

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Are you talking about mine or someone else's?

 

[Apotheosis69]

Are you talking about mine or someone else's?

Think it was yours yeah

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Think it was yours yeah

Bleach Scaling

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Just saying, I haven't updated it from Ghost's last CRT since I'm kinda busy, planning on at least releasing my Blut CRT first before updating this again. If you really need those numbers, I can update today if you want though.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Bleach Scaling

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Just saying, I haven't updated it from Ghost's last CRT since I'm kinda busy, planning on at least releasing my Blut CRT first before updating this again. If you really need those numbers, I can update today if you want though.

I def do, but please don't rush yourself

 

[Saqphire]

Are there even High 3-A feats? I can only think of 2-C feats honestly

You could argue Yhwach destroying Ichigo's Bankai across all futures as one as that counts as destroying infinite mass (because Ichigo's sword obviously has mass), but you'd have to argue said futures being infinite in quantity first

 

[Apotheosis69]

You could argue Yhwach destroying Ichigo's Bankai across all futures as one as that counts as destroying infinite mass (because Ichigo's sword obviously has mass), but you'd have to argue said futures being infinite in quantity first

To which is never stated as Infinite, just countless.

 

[Saqphire]

To which is never stated as Infinite, just countless.

You're right on that regard, and even in the raws they use Musuu which also means countless....

 

[DragoZeroNova]

I def do, but please don't rush yourself

Changed. Please keep in mind some of the characters could also end up being affected, but only if we decide to split Ichigo's rage amp (which is going to be covered in my CRT (and I'll have to remember to talk to @Apollonir.Scale when that comes out). Since it's currently not split, that hasn't happened yet.

In addition, Kisuke is currently still in his old numbers for his TYBW key (which is intentional). This is because his TYBW key may end up being stronger depending on the results, so yeah. If you specifically wanted to know Kisuke's TYBW key AP, please wait lol.

 

[Apotheosis69]

You're right on that regard, and even in the raws they use Musuu which also means countless....

Surprised Yhwach never had Multiverse level Range with Fate Manipulation

 

[Ralp0054]

I'm thinking about it, don't you think the low 5-B statement on base yhwach's profile looks wrong, considering the fight between base yhwach and ichibe was almost equal?

 

[Apotheosis69]

Ichibe was completely toying with Yhwach

 

[Ralp0054]

Ichibe was completely toying with Yhwach

but yhwach cut ichibei at least once

 

[PedjaTarzan]

but yhwach cut ichibei at least once

thats not enough when the entire fight yhwach got no diffed until he got almighty awakened and he no diffed ichibe instead

 

[Excellence616]

Surprised Yhwach never had Multiverse level Range with Fate Manipulation

He did have before

 

[Apotheosis69]

He did have before

Emmm thats Multiversal+

 

[Ralp0054]

thats not enough when the entire fight yhwach got no diffed until he got almighty awakened and he no diffed ichibe instead

I will close this topic until revisions are made, cuz the profiles will get more changes.

 

[Arkenis]

Hey is there material for the past gotei captains members?

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Hey is there material for the past gotei captains members?

That depends on which ones you're asking about, so which ones are you curious to about?

 

[Arkenis]

That depends on which ones you're asking about, so which ones are you curious to about?

Any of them really.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Any of them really.

Then the answer is, no, not really. There are little tidbits, but that's it.

 

[Saqphire]

[Bleach] Shinigami, except Ichibei does NOT have EE buddy 😭💔 (Thread accepted)

Following this thread limiting the Quincy's existence erasure to be accepted, points have been brought up in the thread against the other accepted Existence Erasure attacks in the verse. This entry will adress them Entries Being Adressed 1. Yamamoto's Existence Erasure 2. Shinigami's Existence...

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[Specterxxxx]

[Bleach] Shinigami, except Ichibei does NOT have EE buddy 😭💔 (Thread accepted)

Following this thread limiting the Quincy's existence erasure to be accepted, points have been brought up in the thread against the other accepted Existence Erasure attacks in the verse. This entry will adress them Entries Being Adressed 1. Yamamoto's Existence Erasure 2. Shinigami's Existence...

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I will drop my new God tier senna's feat revamped updated AP and LS CRT after this one concludes.

 

[Adam1396]

I will drop my new God tier senna's feat revamped updated AP and LS CRT after this one concludes.

Each universe accepted as low 2C or the whole garganta is low 2C?
Just dangai shouldn’t be anything below low 2C anyway.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Each universe accepted as low 2C or the whole garganta is low 2C?
Just dangai shouldn’t be anything below low 2C anyway.

It isn't low 2C or 2C upgrade if that's what you are asking

 

[Adam1396]

It isn't low 2C or 2C upgrade if that's what you are asking

I am asking how is cosmology accepted here now.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I am asking how is cosmology accepted here now.

Three realms are low 2-C individually and 2-C combined. Don’t think Garganta has any rating.

 

[Adam1396]

Three realms are low 2-C individually and 2-C combined. Don’t think Garganta has any rating.

@Specterxxxx looking forward to your thread. Senna feat deserves significantly higher rating

 

[Saqphire]

I will drop my new God tier senna's feat revamped updated AP and LS CRT after this one concludes.

goated. do u have the calc perchance?

 

[Specterxxxx]

@Specterxxxx looking forward to your thread. Senna feat deserves significantly higher rating

Yes it does and this crt proposes a significant increase in ratings and scaling God tiers

 

[Specterxxxx]

goated. do u have the calc perchance?

SENNA PUSHES BACK TWO UNIVERSES FROM COLLISION

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[Arkenis]

Hey I saw some post on twitter about how Ichigo's able to sense something but I can't find the chapter, its from this panel. Whatever it is, could it be added to his profile?

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Hey I saw some post on twitter about how Ichigo's able to sense something but I can't find the chapter, its from this panel. Whatever it is, could it be added to his profile?

This is from his fight with Gin where Gin uses his Bankai for the first time while Isshin is fighting with Aizen.
Chapter 399.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Potential huge LS and AP God tier bleach upgrade (Squad zero level characters)

This thread was made after a lot of observation, correcting old mistakes, and updating the info we had since the previous CRT. I also want to mention that several people contributed ideas that helped shape this thread. I strongly recommend reading everything here before forming an opinion...

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[Specterxxxx]

Potential huge LS and AP God tier bleach upgrade (Squad zero level characters)

This thread was made after a lot of observation, correcting old mistakes, and updating the info we had since the previous CRT. I also want to mention that several people contributed ideas that helped shape this thread. I strongly recommend reading everything here before forming an opinion...

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I was going to post this in this page after saqphire's CRT concludes but it is already beginning to gain traction so I might as well bring the cat out of the bag.

 

[ItsMeat]

Still needing some staff votes for this

Minor Aizen&Azashiro addition

So, Kubo revealed on Klub Outside, Q&A 852 that the prisoners from muken are not fed, as "they are essentially criminals who “cannot be killed” ", meaning they won't die by starvation, so they should get Self Sustenance type 2: Type 2: Nutritional Self-Sustenance: The ability to survive...

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[Apotheosis69]

You can contact Staff on their Profile Walls about it

 

[ItsMeat]

You can contact Staff on their Profile Walls about it

I've tried with some of them and they ignored it.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Q854.

2025.11.17

What percentage of Shinigami have an aptitude for Kaidō?

A854

Since it’s taught in the Shin’ō Academy everyone could “use it” at least at a basic level (like scabbing over a scraped knee).

About 30% can perform haemostasis useful in battle. Slightly less than 10% can perform “pain relief”, the foundational skill for the 4th Division.

Around 5% can achieve what people typically imagine as “healing”, treating physical injuries. Roughly 2% can heal internal organs.

Q855.

2025.11.17

I’d like to know which Captain-class Shinigami can use Kaidō! In the series, we’ve seen the 4th Division, Rukia, Hinamori, and Kira use it, but I’m curious if there are others.

A855

Most of the Captain-class Shinigami (albeit with varying proficiency) fall into the 5% category mentioned in the answer of QnA 854. Conversely, among the current Captain-class, the only ones who cannot use Kaidō at all or are nearly incapable are Renji, Kenpachi, Ikkaku, and Soi Fon.

Huh, I guess that means most Soul Reapers should get Healing added to their profiles.

Q856.

2025.11.17

Previously, there was a question about which male character you think is the most handsome in BLEACH (or which one you consciously draw to be handsome), but I would also like to know about the female characters!

A856

I’m not actually very good at drawing female characters, so I draw with the intention of making all of them incredibly cute. There isn’t anyone specific whose face I deliberately draw better than others.

The easiest for me to draw is Rukia, and the most difficult is Orihime.

Orihime is the hardest female character for him to draw? That's interesting; I would've assumed it would be someone with a more elaborate design.

Q857.

2025.11.24

How many people could Kyōraku’s “Kageoni” accommodate within the shadows and what is the maximum duration?

A857

It depends on how much effort Shunsui puts into it.

That might be good to put on Shunsui's profile.

Q858.

2025.11.24

The trigger for Hirako’s “Sakanade” is the scent, but is it effective against an opponent who has a cold and can’t smell? Also, does it work on machines like BG9 that seem to lack the very concept of smell?

A858

It remains effective. Scent is not the activation condition; rather, those affected by Sakanade will perceive the scent.

Shinji's Bankai Shikai being able to affect those that can't smell is actually really cool.

Spoiler

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Huh, I guess that means most Soul Reapers should get Healing added to their profiles.



Orihime is the hardest female character for him to draw? That's interesting; I would've assumed it would be someone with a more elaborate design.



That might be good to put on Shunsui's profile.


Shinji's Bankai being able to affect those that can't smell is actually really cool.

That's Shinji's Shikai, but yes.