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Monster Will Die When Killed Cool Abilities additions [Torrent Edition]

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There are still a lot of abilities that we missed from the third book of Yin Tian Shen Yin series, so here is the CRT to address some of them, all pertaining to Torrent.





1. More scan and context for Acausality / Possibility Manip, Precog resistance (whatever @ActuallySpaceMan42 thinks should be) of Torrents, unless with enough range, which is the Pan-Multiverse Axis.

Torrents are impossible possibilities, so they don't exist in any possibility within the Multiverse.
The True Spirit of the Multiverse did not answer, He was looking around the entire multiverse at this moment, roaring: [It's impossible - I've never seen any possibility like you in this multiverse!]

"Stupid!"

The young man reprimanded without hesitation: "We Torrents are the impossible possibility, and the Transcendent Ones are the Transcendent Ones who transcend all of this!"

-Monster Will Die If Killed, Final Chapter




2. Adding resistances to Plot Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Dream Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Void Manipulation, and Subjective Reality for Primordial Torrent key Su Zhou.

Torrent's Reactive Evolution (High 1-A lol) already encompasses this, but I would specify which resistance Su Zhou gets after fighting the Six Torrents.

Proof for Su Zhou/Torrents resistances due to their RE (if you didn't see it back on Torrents PnA page):
Given this, it might be better to accept the opponent's attack and then counter it. This is the most effective battle strategy among torrents: one side sets up a puzzle, and the other side solves it. The one who is solved is the loser.

-Monster Will Die If Killed, Chapter 949
Because Su Zhou had already unraveled all the mysteries and had broken free from all the influences the five torrents had imposed on him. From now on, any divine power the five torrents wielded would be useless against Su Zhou.

-Monster Will Die If Killed, Chapter 950

Scans for Tai Yi Hun Yuan's Void Manipulation, Dream Manipulation, and Existence Erasure that Su Zhou resists now:
Because apart from [Existence], there is also [Emptiness].

In the emptiness, there is nothing—it's a void, an empty nothingness. Su Zhou, having been swallowed into it, looks around and can only see countless illusory, hazy bubbles rising from the void, like countless dandelions floating in the grasslands, shimmering with their own dreamy colors.

The young man looks at these bubble illusions with interest; they appear suddenly and disappear just as suddenly, with no known origin or destination.

"What is this? The dreams of beings? There are even small worlds within them."

Within these bubbles, there are seemingly illusory but actually real small worlds.

....


“Bad.”

Su Zhou lifts his eyes, somewhat surprised: “Did I become a dream now?”

Tai Yi Hun Yuan has swallowed Su Zhou into its [Void Dream] of the multiverse prototype and then, with infinite divine power, transformed its multiverse prototype into a higher-level [Void Dream]... Moreover, it begins an infinite overlay, aiming to suppress Su Zhou, sealing him in an endless cycle of [dreams within dreams within dreams]!

At this moment, Su Zhou can sense that he is being extremely suppressed, becoming subtle, elusive, losing his own existence and reality. He is shrinking, shrinking, becoming extremely insignificant, more despicable than dust, because he has become a dream of Tai Yi Hun Yuan, even an endless cycle of dreams within dreams!

...


Dreams, reality? Existence, void?

Endlessly, the eternal cycle of reincarnation?

In the face of Immortal Soul, everything that ‘I’ repels and denies will retreat, like a storm blowing through, extinguishing all candles, leaving only the sun to shine. Only the absolute reality that even the Immortal Soul cannot deny can maintain its self-existence.

-Monster Will Die If Killed, Chapter 949

Scans for the Penman's Fate and Plot Manipulation that Su Zhou resists now:

With both divine abilities operating simultaneously, Su Zhou was about to step out of the seal set by Tai Yi Hun Yuan and Infinite Eternal Recurrence.

However, at that moment:

[But because of a highly intense space-time quake affecting the entire multiverse, Su Zhou’s step was hindered, and he failed. He did not step out of the seal.]

Because of the highly intense space-time quake affecting the entire multiverse, Su Zhou’s step was hindered, and he failed. He did not step out of the seal.

-Monster Will Die If Killed, Chapter 949

The supreme divine power of destiny, [The Sealing of Dao], is the third supreme divine power after the Destiny Spectrum and the Book of Tribulations.

Driven by infinite power, The Sealing of Dao can write the Book of Fate for any entity, and its contents will definitely come true, ignoring all possibilities and causality probabilities.

Just now, Su Zhou could hardly explain what he had encountered. He was clearly about to take a step out, to leave the seal, but in the next moment, he felt the entire multiverse trembling. Then, his movement was interrupted, and he found himself still within the seal.

After realizing the Penholder's trick, Su Zhou couldn't help but laugh: "Are you writing my plot?"

....


"Penholder/Blank Space, whether a book is rational or not,"

Su Zhou said: "Does it really matter?"

"If a song's melody is pleasant, who cares if it conforms to musical theory? What Western traditions, what Eastern traditions, why worry about rock classics, jazz blues, or ancient folk? As long as it sounds good, it is a masterpiece!"

[Indeed]

In the brilliance of [The Bright Void of Beginning] and the symphony of [The Heavenly Fate Score], the Blank Space retreated, laughing: [Just like now, I can no longer write your fate... because if I write 'the Penholder/Blank Space uses all its power to face Su Zhou's two supreme divine powers head-on, once again imprisoning the original Zhu Zhou in an infinite cage,' I would then have to follow it with 'but the Penholder/Blank Space, though successful, was severely injured, leading to a lack of manpower in the subsequent alliance, thus setting the stage for the original Zhu Zhou's ultimate victory.']

Of course, none of this would happen.

The Penholder cannot write content arbitrarily, just as it cannot casually write Su Zhou into supporting their plan. Doing so would collapse Su Zhou's character traits.

However, Su Zhou is a torrent, and even if the multiverse collapses, he will not. The backlash from The Sealing of Dao, driven by infinite power, is enough to seriously injure the Penholder and even affect endless multiverses, causing parts of them to collapse.

-Monster Will Die If Killed, Chapter 950

Scans for Delusional Creator's Subjective Reality that Su Zhou resists now:

All unattainable thoughts are delusions; all unreal thoughts are delusions.

That is the most shameless and sincere imagination.

The [Creator of Delusion] can turn all these fantasies into reality! It can even create endless real universes as the source of power for these delusions!

As for the second entity that appeared... it was even more significant.

Named [True Realm], its mere focus on the mirror affirmed: [That is real.]

Then it turned to look at Su Zhou: [That is your power.]

At that moment.

The power of the Creator of Delusion and the power of the True Realm transformed into an indescribable force, descending upon Su Zhou.

All wild fantasies, all thoughts becoming reality, without even needing to think, overflowing with boundless power—all these delusions and phenomena of infinite beings, all satisfaction and desire, turned into fulfillment and abundance, becoming a part of Su Zhou. This made him feel omnipotent, capable of anything, as if he were the creator of the infinite universe, able to do whatever he wanted.

At this moment, the seal formed by the combined efforts of the five torrents against Su Zhou was finally taking shape.

-Monster Will Die If Killed, Chapter 950




3. Su Zhou's card

So this is a lot.

[Abyss of Eternal Wandering · City of Fallen Death Calamity - Candle Sun Heaven], this card's ability is nuts.

BFR, Power Nullification, Power Mimicry, Resistance Negation, Summoning, Invulnerability, Duplication, Transmutation, Fate Manipulation, and Plot Manipulation (instant victory) from this card.

Resistance to BFR, Power Nullification, Homing Attack, Status Effect Inducement, Power Modification, and Existence Erasure from this card.

All of those are for Su Zhou's Primordial Torrent key.

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The rest of this seems fine yeah, but uh
3. Su Zhou's card

So this is a lot.

[Abyss of Eternal Wandering · City of Fallen Death Calamity - Candle Sun Heaven], this card's ability is nuts.

BFR, Power Nullification, Power Mimicry, Resistance Negation, Summoning, Invulnerability, Duplication, Transmutation, Fate Manipulation, and Plot Manipulation (instant victory) from this card.

Resistance to BFR, Power Nullification, Homing Attack, Status Effect Inducement, Power Modification, and Existence Erasure from this card.

All of those are for Su Zhou's Primordial Torrent key.
I say this as a Yu-Gi-Oh player who has spent one too many hours playing it
My first reaction was a spittake at seeing this
My second reaction was no, absolutely not
This is formatted like a Yu-Gi-Oh card (and unless you want to post scans about it, actually displaying these ability of this sort), and I'm guessing you are giving most of these based on what exactly these effects translate into
Fun fact, we don't do/assume what an effect does/mean unless the card itself already displays what it means by that, or if it is super blatant, otherwise an effect on it's own means **** all

So this just doesn't work
The most I can give you is
Resistance to power null (negation resistance)
Limited (Resistance to) Vector Manipulation (Targeting Immunity)
For the card and the card alone, this also presumes the card has actual effects outside of whatever "game" is being instantianted (but given the context, it seems like it can)
 
The rest of this seems fine yeah, but uh

I say this as a Yu-Gi-Oh player who has spent one too many hours playing it
My first reaction was a spittake at seeing this
My second reaction was no, absolutely not
This is formatted like a Yu-Gi-Oh card (and unless you want to post scans about it, actually displaying these ability of this sort), and I'm guessing you are giving most of these based on what exactly these effects translate into
Fun fact, we don't do/assume what an effect does/mean unless the card itself already displays what it means by that, or if it is super blatant, otherwise an effect on it's own means **** all

So this just doesn't work
The most I can give you is
Resistance to power null (negation resistance)
Limited (Resistance to) Vector Manipulation (Targeting Immunity)
For the card and the card alone, this also presumes the card has actual effects outside of whatever "game" is being instantianted (but given the context, it seems like it can)
This is actually a normal attack that turned into a card lol, no game involved. It is basically what his Torch Sun Heaven can do, usually, but turned into a card for some reason. What the card do can also do by any Torrent, but I would rather categorized it since it is iconic.

Here is more of the chapter:

The Supreme Saint of the Beginning looked on in terror as Candlelight Heaven suddenly moved. Then, using an incredible, incomprehensible, indescribable, and namelessly immense power as fuel, it transformed into the most powerful and explosive roller that could be imagined, and then...

It charged directly at the six torrents who had just expelled the Primordial Candlelight from the multiverse!

[Be quiet, Candlelight Heaven is very solid, I built it myself!]

The Grand Emperor Hong Shi remained calm. Although he was not a torrent, Su Zhou was. Su Zhou had given him the Warden's authority, allowing Hong Shi to personally control the infinite power of the torrents to shape the prison and create the Candlelight Heaven spacetime. He knew that the Candlelight Heaven based on the Great Seal was likely the hardest and most terrifying world in the entire sealed multiverse.

After all, even the world of Primordial Heaven, the center of the multiverse, was just the center of the multiverse.

But Candlelight Heaven was a fragment of the Great Seal, remade by the source divine power of a torrent!

Unlike the Supreme Saint of the Beginning, who was now searching for a stable and solid prisoner world to lock himself up, Hong Shi clenched his fists. He had also heard the voices of countless sacrificers from the Primordial Heaven world and wanted to help but did not know how.

He still found it hard to believe in all beings… But at least, right now.

Hong Shi was willing to believe in Candlelight.

[Go for it, Candlelight!]

Adjusting the direction of Candlelight Heaven’s flight, Hong Shi looked ahead where the torrents had already reacted and began to act, preparing to obstruct Candlelight Heaven’s advance. He muttered: [At least, at this moment]

[I believe you are correct!]

Meanwhile.

[How is the Primordial Candlelight controlling Candlelight Heaven beyond the multiverse?!]

Both the Five Saints and the Five Torrents were shocked and incredulous… Not because the power Su Zhou displayed exceeded their expectations, but because ‘being outside the multiverse does not isolate someone’s influence on certain things within the multiverse.’

Su Zhou’s move essentially proved from the side that their prepared sealing plan could not even seal the Primordial Candlelight; was there still a need to suppress the true spirit of the multiverse’s three elements?

Since everyone is correct… Let me find faults and argue with you!

“Six fellow practitioners, try to handle this next!”

With such a chaotic thought, Su Zhou laughed loudly from beyond the multiverse: “Candlelight’s full power! I wield the ultimate blow of love and hope!”

“Bring the full force of the Great Seal’s power to bear!”

He boldly echoed the words of the Primordial Daoist Lord.

The sensation of the six torrents was naturally the same as Su Zhou’s.

The only difference was…

[Can’t dodge]

The Delusional Creator said: [Take it head-on!]

They planned to take it head-on.

You’re not the embodiment of the multiverse, so you say it’s a collision, do you think we can’t stop it?

[I’ll come!]

At this moment, among the torrents formed by the Five Saints, the Sage of the Source acted first.

This powerful figure, who had mastered reverse magic and alchemy in the xianxia world and communicated with endless parallel spaces, was possibly the strongest among the Five Saints aside from the Primordial Daoist Lord. The kind and affable elder raised his staff, and immediately, the Primordial Heaven world, along with all the surrounding infinite parallel spaces, was materialized as simultaneous realities by his absolute power.

Theoretically, for beings below the peak of Dao integration, parallel worlds do indeed exist as reality, but infinite parallel spaces could only be observed one at a time. However, at the peak of Dao integration, they could exist simultaneously in multiple parallel spaces, and for the torrent master wielding infinite power, that number is simply infinite.

Extending in time, eternally existing in parallel spaces, the Sage of the Source had explored infinite parallel spaces, thus tracing back from the impossible possibilities to the Original Primordial Heaven node, becoming the Five Saints of the Original World – Primordial Heaven Realm!

He raised his staff, and immediately, the spreading infinite parallel spaces began to generate their own parallel spaces, and the parallel worlds’ parallel worlds further generated infinite parallel spaces… Repeating endlessly. Under the will of a strongman who had oppressed Primordial Heaven for an era, this colossal and astonishing spectacle was shaped into a gyroscopic geometric body!

Endless eras of time emerged in this space, with many strongmen’s phantoms in ancient times turning virtual into reality in the possibilities, aiming to become the Sage of the Source’s power and great adversaries!

The will of the Saint propelled the [Infinite World Gyroscope] to spin at high speed, carrying enough power to annihilate the ages and destroy eras, pressing towards Candlelight Heaven.

Even Candlelight Heaven was shocked: “Can playing with a gyroscope really destroy the infinite cosmic world? Where did this toy-special-effects nonsense come from?”

Even more shocking was the Supreme Saint of the Beginning: [You have self-will?!]

Candlelight Heaven: “Nonsense, I am Candlelight!”

Not only that, but even Hong Shi could see Candlelight at this moment. Hong Shi, driving Candlelight Heaven, was resonating with the entire power of Candlelight Heaven. The resonance rate surged instantaneously, exploding to a staggering 4000%!

At this moment, Candlelight Heaven also began to materialize its infinite parallel spacetime… Unlike the Primordial Heaven Realm, which had turned into a spinning gyroscope, Candlelight Heaven’s infinite parallel spacetime crystallized into a card!

[Eternal Abyss of Wandering · City of the Abyss of Despair - Candlelight Heaven]

[Candlelight Race/Effect]

[‘Grand Emperor Hong Shi’ + ‘Candlelight Heaven’]

[This card cannot be normally summoned. During the preparation phase, you can pay 1000 LP to special summon this card from your hand, deck, graveyard, banished zone, or printing card area. This card’s special effects cannot be negated. Effects cannot be activated in response to this summon.]

[When this card is successfully special summoned, banish all cards in the hands, fields, and targets of all players other than the card holder from the game. Effects of spells, traps, and monsters cannot be activated in response to this effect.]

[This card cannot be targeted by any effects, cannot be destroyed by battle or effects, cannot be tributed, banished, or sent to the graveyard.]

[When this card is summoned, perform infinite direct attacks on all other card holders and monsters.]

[Monsters destroyed by this card become new copies of this card and are special summoned to the field.]

[Owning this card results in an automatic victory.]

[ATK/∞]

[DEF/∞]

Faced with this card, even the Infinite World Gyroscope began to shrink suddenly, and its spinning speed decreased… The Sage of the Source stared in disbelief as his attack methods were suppressed by Candlelight Heaven, and all the universes, eras, and ancient powerful phantoms appearing in the Infinite World Gyroscope dissipated.

All parallel spacetime returned to its original state. His attack was dissolved into nothingness.

But this was not important because the other Saints and torrents also began to launch their attacks, driven by infinite power, against Candlelight Heaven!

Yet, Candlelight Heaven was not isolated and unsupported!

Even from the distant end of the sealed universe.

The dream of Candlelight, which enveloped the entire sealed universe and countless surrounding worlds, also began to activate. Under the joint authority of Shao Qi Ming and Shao Shuang Yue, it started to operate automatically and rushed rapidly toward the Primordial Heaven Realm!

And that’s not all!

Infinite power began to overflow. In the endless worlds, countless Candlelights’ seemingly ordinary signs also began to operate.

In the Divine Wood World, the Kunlun Martial Sage statue that had been sculpted started to tremble incessantly, shedding stone debris, then came to life, lifting its head to gaze at the endless spacetime.

In the Reincarnation World, the light of the God of Judgment flashed above the clouds and cut through the sky and spacetime in the presence of Elias and the Wind God, disappearing into the void.

In the Divine Dragon World, the statue of the Primordial Candlelight soared into the sky, using the knowledge of the Great Universe of Music to transform the old home. Aura did not find this strange and simply smiled and said goodbye.

In the Perfect World, the legend of the National Master Candlelight was gathering. Outside the Extreme Heaven Array, the Divine Emperor, who was still fighting the Celestial Demon and two Demon Lords, saw a gigantic Candlelight Divine Bird soaring and transcending the universe. Even the Primordial True Dragon and the Primordial Phoenix were astonished, and the Lord of the Void was deeply affected by the impermanence of the world. Only Ming Zhengde, who was still saving the thirty thousand worlds, looked at the light and smiled slightly.

In the Aion World, the light of Sveltary, the Radiance of Hope, suddenly shone at an unknown moment, brightening the entire world before returning to its original brilliance.

In the Creation Realm, the Eternal Star God, the Only God, and all the Dao Masters looked up, watching the direction in which the light of Candlelight was flying away.

In the Great Universe of Music, the Fifth Movement World, the stirring melody played, causing the endless spacetime to surge with tides.
 
More scan and context for Acausality / Possibility Manip, Precog resistance (whatever @ActuallySpaceMan42 thinks should be) of Torrents, unless with enough range, which is the Pan-Multiverse Axis.
What do you mean by unless with enough range? As in they need enough range to precog and hax Torrents?

Su Zhou's card
Is this blatant Yugioh reference?. Disagree, plagiarism

Anyway the rest is fine i guess
 
That mean weakness of those hax more than resistance for Torrents, as they lack range to even reach Torrents in the first place thus Torrents wasn't even resisting them in the first place
 
That mean weakness of those hax more than resistance for Torrents, as they lack range to even reach Torrents in the first place thus Torrents wasn't even resisting them in the first place
It is weird case, you see, Torrents possibility doesn't exist even against each other, but higher range at the scope of Pan-Multiverse Axis Torrents possibility exist there but this still beyond their own tier. I would rather classify this as unconventional resistance that can be overcomes with range.

Also, what the criteria for plagiarism geg. Since I think since this is a licensed and copyrighted novel shouldn't make it plagiarism for that card ability. I would ask @Antvasima for this tho later.
 
I don't we even qualify them as unconventional resistance, because this is similar to someone who do not have enough range to affect HDE, HDE do not resists anything, just the opponent do not have enough range to affect the HDE


Also, what the criteria for plagiarism geg. Since I think since this is a licensed and copyrighted novel shouldn't make it plagiarism for that card ability. I would ask @Antvasima for this tho later.
I don't really know, seem like they copy the mechanic of Yugioh card game, but not the card character
 
Gotta to apply the agreed abilties here, and that mean actually screenshotting the scans and uploading them.
 
Is this thread concluded? Some abilities haven't been applied yet. Btw, he should be able to resist power bestowal.
Named [True Realm], its mere focus on the mirror affirmed: [That is real.]

Then it turned to look at Su Zhou: [That is your power.]
 
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