Yeah so.. Jahoda absolutely doing nothing. She's not participated in the final fight nor ever fighting against rerir directly like flins and traveler
It's obvious that she once blocked a strike from rerir.If it's just that everyone can team up to drive away rerir to level up, then Jahoda can tier up too. It seems Jahoda can take Il Capitano's position.
Yeah, no, thats not enough. She could've died if there was no Columbina btw.
Too bad buddy, Jahoda never do shit in the archon quest when it comes to fighting Rerir.If it's just that everyone can team up to drive away rerir to level up, then Jahoda can tier up too. It seems Jahoda can take Il Capitano's position.
The nation being the entire Nod-Krai and the factions within, then, yeah I still don't see why they would scale to that level
Idk, ask Puppet. At best Dain will do a better performance than like Flins and Traveler.
They're downscale from him, doesn't mean they could destroy a whole nation too (lore-wise not tiering wise)
That's just weird, as if saying theres almost no differences of stats between Him at his most powerful and strongest form, and 10% of his original power.
Did i just witness an OUNCE! of downplay to my Queen Jahoda...this slander will NOT be tolerated
Both cannot be valid when,
I cant do that because u all agree with all top tiers scaling to a feat of the 2 strongests lmao
Is not low diffing and the weapon it is implied in the boss to make him more dangerous so yeah should be a small amp than unarmed
Idk man, hoyo doing anything atpand like how tf is nefer who only uses her legsto fight stronger than varka flins and columbina bro
I think it's pretty consistent half Nod Krai cast is downscaling Rerir
Sensitivity does't implies absolute knowledge of what happend, at best u could argue "Hey he knew these 2 were in the primordial sea but couldn't sense their actions/activities"
And there is no reason to assume bro did fight since day 1, like straight up, no evidence
I mean that is straight up common sense in most fiction works speed is also heavely dependent on power, unless u have any evidence that support he wasn't as fast
So by this reasoning we shouldn't scale Heavy Hitters in JJK to Sukuna in his Heian era form? because it took the entire alive cast to put this man to sleep? Thats kinda a lame justification, u can team up on someone and still being able to hurt/damage ur opponent
And Columbina states is he powerfull enough to maintain it, while she couldn't, even when having Rerir's powers
If u think character A should be stronger than Characters B and C because she doesnt look stronger that's kinda lame justification low key and as Sahl said she did nothing, at best she scales above Sandrone
If Rerir's "dogwalking" is the same as we saw in his fight with Aether then it doesn't really matter how you interpret it because the scaling standards still apply because this "dogwalk" implies he isn't one tapping these people to oblivion, they are still giving him a fight. Either make it so 10% Rerir isn't even Low 4-C in the first place (which means debunking his 100% scaling to 4-C), or actually come up with decent arguments other the arguing from incredulity.
Because creating and maintaining the Moon Gate isn't through Rerir's power but her own power as a Moon Goddess. She already said that she can create the moon gate even before getting Rerir's power.
if any of this scaling is genuenly allowed even if we know that no matter if they stand no chance against rerir be it one on one or entire cast combined them im immideatly upgrading inazuma traveler to 6-B because he managed to fight shogun even when he got dogwalked and when he trained and was still said to have no chance against her
Nice whataboutism. Inazuma Aether doesn't downscale because it's explicitly elaborated that Ei was holding back immensely and Ei literally one-tapped him. Unless you can prove the same for Rerir, this is not a valid analogy
Well according to puppet rerir was only serious when he pulled out weapon against nefer and traveler and for previous fight he was only serious abt killing columbina no?
They didn't even knock him out. Dainsleif sealed him away so he couldn't attack or reach anyone. And being able to damage/hurt your opponent doesn't necessarily mean you scale to them because of one instance, otherwise that's usually a case of PiS. To solidify that sort of scaling, there has to be backing proof that gives them a reason to be comparable.
Idk where you get the context "Dain sealed him away" but he's not sealed him away.
No, you should know the full context of it. That gate is created by Columbina after she managed to paralyzed him. Dainsleif is there to keep that gate open because Columbina doesn't have strong enough power keep that open.
Thats outside of the context of you saying Dain sealed him away.
I change Narwhal to "Maybe" Durin would still scale because of his playable version which can endure Rerir's power, so yeah consistency
Didn't he just manage to equal her post Ambition amp?
Yeah remind u Rerir also is inmortal yare yare, so even if they downscale they dont have a chance to fully eliminate the threath
Regardless of context, he closed the portal.
Still, doesn't mean he "sealed" him.
Everything seems to be good put me on agree
Disagree with 5-B for the Shades, Sovereigns and Sinners.
Regardless, The Sovereigns still strong enough to make Phanes and the 4 Shades struggle to defeat them for 40 years.
This is not true, nowhere it stated that those dragons are immortal/cannot die so Phanes is struggle and created his Shades. Heck, why would Phanes be struggle from that? Phanes created the four shades NOT AFTER 40 years later but the same year when he began to invade Teyvat.
And i told u it could had pretty much being because of destructive lvl or because was again a match of God and his shades vs dragons
If u actually read what i wrote
Same can happend viceversa, some characters have abilities that let them still fight even if their rivals were superior, just as this dude, even if he fights top tiers in his series he doesnt scale because the only thing keeping him alive is his inmortality
The War of Vengeance that Nibelung caused literally reminds them of the war in the world's creation which is the war between Phanes + Shades vs Sovereigns.
But you are making them as a legit thing, theres no proof of those Dragons are immortal/cannot die. And not to mention, you basically said something like " Because of they're immortal/cannot die, Phanes had to create his shades and then they manage ti defeat them 40 years later" Which is absolutely wrong. The Four Shades were created were not after 40 years later, literally the same day when Phanes began to fight them.
Still, as i explained above, you still have no proof of those dragons having that kind of hax that let them keeping them alive. The Sovereigns fought Phanes and the Four Shades head-on for forty years.
The fact that you put this feat of the Sovereigns to equate them with the Sinners instead of using the Sovereigns' greatest feat which is fighting against Phanes and Four Shades DIRECTLY for 40 years.
