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Dispatch General Discussion Thread

I have updated Victor's blog. Tried adding as much as i could when it came to his powers.

The dispatching stats should not be used, they are just game mechanics and don't reflect the actual strengths of the characters properly. The mission themselves would also be a on a very case by case basis, if you send invisigal to move beached whale, I don't think she scales to lifting a whale. The only thing that should be used from dispatching is the dialogue when characters comment on things that we can use to interpret what might have happened.

Dispatching and missions would need to be scrutinized a lot before doing anything.
If it's a hero specific solution, that should be fine to use.
 
I don't think I'm ever going to pick Phenomaman again on future playthroughs. He's really funny, but Waterboy just makes way more sense.

Phenomaman can't level up, so his stats are static outside of the end of shift bonus points. So even if you don't pick him, he's basically just as effective as he would have been anyway when you get him in the finale. Whereas if you get Waterboy in the finale, he's borderline useless because his stats are ass.
Not true, bruv. Getting waterboy in the finale is actually OP as hell, since he upgrades so fast that you can keep his stats to assign specifically for the tough missions you have no better option.

Granted, I was so good that I didn’t even see Blazer in the last mission. I was so shocked to know she can arrive, with her it must be easier.

Meanwhile, Phenomaman’s second ability to half the resting time of companions is gamebreaking.
 
Not true, bruv. Getting waterboy in the finale is actually OP as hell, since he upgrades so fast that you can keep his stats to assign specifically for the tough missions you have no better option.

Granted, I was so good that I didn’t even see Blazer in the last mission. I was so shocked to know she can arrive, with her it must be easier.

Meanwhile, Phenomaman’s second ability to half the resting time of companions is gamebreaking.
Maybe I just got unlucky, but bro spent the whole shift (from when he showed up, anyway) getting his ass kicked. Not worth it IMO.

Also, if we're talking about things other people may or may not have seen in the Episode 8 shift, did anyone else have Visi just leave toward the end? I could've sworn that happened for me, but I haven't seen it happen to anyone else. Am I going insane, did my brain just make that up because I was tired?
 
I don't think we should, personally. I take the stats as a gameplay mechanic.
Naturally they are. However, I think he can make an exception for the starting stats, as those are a static representation of their strength and weaknesses, if it makes sense. And as long as we don’t take points at face value and just as a rough estimation, it should be alright.
 
Naturally they are. However, I think he can make an exception for the starting stats, as those are a static representation of their strength and weaknesses, if it makes sense. And as long as we don’t take points at face value and just as a rough estimation, it should be alright.
That's a fair take, I think. I could agree with that.
 
Maybe I just got unlucky, but bro spent the whole shift (from when he showed up, anyway) getting his ass kicked. Not worth it IMO.

Also, if we're talking about things other people may or may not have seen in the Episode 8 shift, did anyone else have Visi just leave toward the end? I could've sworn that happened for me, but I haven't seen it happen to anyone else. Am I going insane, did my brain just make that up because I was tired?
I don’t remember mine, it was 3 or so in the morning, but I definitely saw it happen in someone else’s playthrough.
 
I don’t remember mine, it was 3 or so in the morning, but I definitely saw it happen in someone else’s playthrough.
Yeah, I was just checking my recording that I forgot I had until right this second (I don't post to YouTube or anything, I just wanted to record the ending of my first playthrough), and she sort of just leaves without comment around 5 minutes before the shift ends.

I wonder why? I mean, I know why in-universe I guess, but I wonder what triggers it. Maybe I was taking too long or something.
 
The dispatching stats should not be used, they are just game mechanics and don't reflect the actual strengths of the characters properly. The mission themselves would also be a on a very case by case basis, if you send invisigal to move beached whale, I don't think she scales to lifting a whale. The only thing that should be used from dispatching is the dialogue when characters comment on things that we can use to interpret what might have happened.

Dispatching and missions would need to be scrutinized a lot before doing anything.
Speaking on stats at least, like I said the stats themselves I don't think should be used inherently cause they can be changed. But like I said, Sonar is just smarter than the other Z-Team members outright, Golem is outright tougher, etc. There's some fairly self evident parts of their scaling listed by their base stats.
 
Speaking on stats at least, like I said the stats themselves I don't think should be used inherently cause they can be changed. But like I said, Sonar is just smarter than the other Z-Team members outright, Golem is outright tougher, etc. There's some fairly self evident parts of their scaling listed by their base stats.
Sonar is the goat.
 
Going back through and saw the bit where Robert says he prefers brunettes and it occurred to me that the only other romance option Invisigal is a brunette, before I realized Phenomaman also kissed him and he's a brunette too (or bruno, since he's a guy), and then I remembered that Malevola touched his dick and she's also a brunette, and so is Flambae, and Punch Up touched his dick too technically and his hair's dark, and so is Coupé's, and Waterboy- and, and now I'm wondering if Sonar counts since his fur is black.
 
Going back through and saw the bit where Robert says he prefers brunettes and it occurred to me that the only other romance option Invisigal is a brunette, before I realized Phenomaman also kissed him and he's a brunette too (or bruno, since he's a guy), and then I remembered that Malevola touched his dick and she's also a brunette, and so is Flambae, and Punch Up touched his dick too technically and his hair's dark, and so is Coupé's, and Waterboy- and, and now I'm wondering if Sonar counts since his fur is black.
Is Invisigal a burnette? Her hair is more of a dark purple, at best a brown purple more on the purple side, even compared to regular dark brown hair. Whereas Mandy has just regular brown hair
 
Speaking of which, comics are probably not canon after all. In the comic Shroud used a single bullet, while in the game it was an important plot point that he used 5 or so.
Shroud is lying here, likely to piss off Robert. He claims he used 5 shots, but then when told at the beginning of the game by Toxic it was one shot to the chest, we also see that the comic it follows what Toxic said, one to the chest.

So the comic is canon just Shroud wasn't being truthful in that situation. Even then he lies about him beating him and make him piss his pants.

He came in shot him and left. All because he got beat by Robert's dad while on augs when he wasn't.

Shroud is a Fraud
 
Is Invisigal a burnette? Her hair is more of a dark purple, at best a brown purple more on the purple side, even compared to regular dark brown hair. Whereas Mandy has just regular brown hair
Yeah it's definitely more of a purple-ish color, I wouldn't call her a brunette. I wonder if she dyes it if it's just like that.
 
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Is Invisigal a burnette? Her hair is more of a dark purple, at best a brown purple more on the purple side, even compared to regular dark brown hair. Whereas Mandy has just regular brown hair
Yeah it's definitely more of a purple-ish color, I wouldn't call her a brunette. I wonder if she dyes it of its just like that.
It looked brown in the scenes I saw, but then again she was standing in sunlight in those shots so it was skewed. It does look vaguely purple in her normal renders.
 
Shroud is lying here, likely to piss off Robert. He claims he used 5 shots, but then when told at the beginning of the game by Toxic it was one shot to the chest, we also see that the comic it follows what Toxic said, one to the chest.

So the comic is canon just Shroud wasn't being truthful in that situation. Even then he lies about him beating him and make him piss his pants.

He came in shot him and left. All because he got beat by Robert's dad while on augs when he wasn't.

Shroud is a Fraud
I'd rather believe Toxic made the story up, which would be in character for him, unlike Shroud. Plus, it's hard to believe he'd lie, as not only is it an important plot point (the gun itself and the bullets), but it's also not clear why would he want to piss off Robert at that time.
 
You know given Visi worked for Shroud, does it mean the scene in ep 6 she faked struggling to get her inhaler for asthma? Or Shroud legit put her in danger and wasnt bothered if she lived or not
 
You know given Visi worked for Shroud, does it mean the scene in ep 6 she faked struggling to get her inhaler for asthma? Or Shroud legit put her in danger and wasnt bothered if she lived or not
Given how Shroud talks to and treats some of his minions (EG. Yelling at Armstrong for no good reason if you give Shroud both the proto pulse and astral pulse, glaring at Sonar/Coupé when they clearly don't respect Blonde Blazer, so on), I think it's the latter. I'm also not entirely confident that she actually was working for Shroud by the time she joined the Phoenix Program anyway, given how she acts in-game and her turning on him no matter what.
If it's a hero specific solution, that should be fine to use.
Agreed with this point, the hero specific solutions seem pretty easy to at least consider for their respective characters.
 
I'm also not entirely confident that she actually was working for Shroud by the time she joined the Phoenix Program anyway, given how she acts in-game and her turning on him no matter what.
The mole thing is confusing. I don't think Shroud was lying necessarily, I mean they handed Visi her mask and let her go right after he said that. But I don't think he was telling the whole truth either.
 
Looking back at the episode 1 tutorial for dispatching, is it possible we could get the characters we had there in the future maybe?

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We never saw or heard of them since then and i doubt they let these names and designs go to waste for a tutorial only
 
Looking back at the episode 1 tutorial for dispatching, is it possible we could get the characters we had there in the future maybe?

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We never saw or heard of them since then and i doubt they let these names and designs go to waste for a tutorial only
They do kinda show up again in the finale in the Dispatching section. You have to send your team to help them do stuff. If we ever get some kind of endless mode, maybe they could playable again there.
 
Must have missed that, but anyway would be neat if we could have them get some screentime too, interact with other Z team members too at times

Not that i wouldnt want the old cast back, but wouldnt hurt to have "new ones" focused at too
 
I do wonder... How difficult is it to make an endless mode? In terms of time and cost. Theoretically, it wouldn't require many assets, except for portraits.
 
Invisigal after being ordered to deliver the 50th coffee to Vanderstank:

That's such a massive disqualifier for his abilities, btw. Understandable if he'd still be his normal self, but why he didn't see it while using Astral Pulse? Maaaan.
 
That's such a massive disqualifier for his abilities, btw. Understandable if he'd still be his normal self, but why he didn't see it while using Astral Pulse? Maaaan.
Not a disqualifier. We already have been shown he can't calculate random chance and said info needs to be stuff he reasonably knows to accurately calculate the Z-Team's next moves.

He doesn't know Visi is a triple agent and not working for him anymore in that moment, so he can't know her next move. It's like asking Shroud to calculate something where all the numbers are X. He used his gut and assumed Visi was still on his side and was wrong, much like how he's wrong when guessing which astral pulse he's given when given both.

We also see it's not always accurate before this, as he admitted his calculation was wrong about blonde blazer showing up and was 30 seconds off.
 
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I do wonder... How difficult is it to make an endless mode? In terms of time and cost. Theoretically, it wouldn't require many assets, except for portraits.
I'd suspect it would more be a question of willingness and whether or not it would be worth it than difficulty.
 
He doesn't know Visi is a triple agent and not working for him anymore in that moment, so he can't know her next move. It's like asking Shroud to calculate something where all the numbers are X. He used his gut and assumed Visi was still on his side and was wrong, much like how he's wrong when guessing which astral pulse he's given when given both.
You'd think the fact that she put a bomb on his face less than 10 minutes prior might've clued him in, to be fair.
 
You'd think the fact that she put a bomb on his face less than 10 minutes prior might've clued him in, to be fair.
And a minute minutes prior he directly said they were working together, so i'm not sure what his plan was cooking. Very unclear and i'm not turning into a glorified christmas tree to figure it out.
 
And a minute minutes prior he directly said they were working together, so i'm not sure what his plan was cooking. Very unclear and i'm not turning into a glorified christmas tree to figure it out.
Okay so;

Visi was with Shroud episode 1-2 (Double Agent for Shroud)

Visi by the time of episode 4 should have become attached to everyone and betrayed shroud (Triple Agent)

Goes back to shroud (???) briefly by the end of 7-8 (Back to Double Agent) but she's faking it (Quad Agent) and uses that to betray shroud (Quin Agent?)
 
And a minute minutes prior he directly said they were working together, so i'm not sure what his plan was cooking. Very unclear and i'm not turning into a glorified christmas tree to figure it out.
I try not to think about it, it just doesn't make any sense.
 
Okay so;

Visi was with Shroud episode 1-2 (Double Agent for Shroud)

Visi by the time of episode 4 should have become attached to everyone and betrayed shroud (Triple Agent)

Goes back to shroud (???) briefly by the end of 7-8 (Back to Double Agent) but she's faking it (Quad Agent) and uses that to betray shroud (Quin Agent?)
If we're taking guesses, the point at which I'd say she betrayed Shroud was when she decided she wanted to quit the team in Episode 3 and then got the pep-talk from Robert.
 
If we're taking guesses, the point at which I'd say she betrayed Shroud was when she decided she wanted to quit the team in Episode 3 and then got the pep-talk from Robert.
Yeah so i think when Visi plants the bomb on Shroud's mech they're still "working together" (in shroud's eyes at least) and he may have let her do whatever to sell being with Z-Team, including harming him.

Once he reveals to the entire cast they were working together, she continues with it to get the augments so she can get up to Shroud and help Robert on top of SDN without raising suspicion or getting Robert hurt(?), and atp she's clearly completely cut off from Shroud entirely.
 
Yeah so i think when Visi plants the bomb on Shroud's mech they're still "working together" (in shroud's eyes at least) and he may have let her do whatever to sell being with Z-Team, including harming him.

Once he reveals to the entire cast they were working together, she continues with it to get the augments so she can get up to Shroud and help Robert on top of SDN without raising suspicion or getting Robert hurt(?), and atp she's clearly completely cut off from Shroud entirely.
What I'm confused about is what exactly he was trying to achieve by having her as a mole. So Shroud has her go (she said she quit after planting the bomb, but she either lied about that or just went back to him later) and join the Phoenix Program months before Robert is even conscious. Let's assume he just knew Robert was gonna end up working for SDN. While she's working there, she... doesn't really seem to do / achieve anything except sucking at her job and ending up the bottom of the leaderboard? Okay? Why do this?
 
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