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UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

you know what? Enough Frisk and Kris Agenda pushing. WE solo both
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LittleGuy99 said:
The. Roaring. Knight. Profile. Is. OUT!!
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The Roaring Knight

The Roaring Knight, also known simply as The Knight is the main antagonist of Deltarune. Prior to Chapter 1, they opened a Dark Fountain within Hometown's abandoned classroom, creating the Card Kingdom and setting the events of the game into motion. Later, prior to Chapter 2, they would go on to...
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I've been asking to upload my draft of the profile for months. Not cool.
 
I don't wanna be petty and make a report or anything, but that's super bad etiquette. Don't tell me I can't post a profile, that I made months ago and have been asking to post for months, then make your own and post that profile right after.
 
ShockingPsychic said:
I don't wanna be petty and make a report or anything, but that's super bad etiquette. Don't tell me I can't post a profile, that I made months ago and have been asking to post for months, then make your own and post that profile right after.
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I'm sorry
It's just that it didn't feel quite finished, many things were missing (from my point of view), so I wanted to make my own version
I didn't mean to be rude or anything, I just didn't like it
And well, I asked the other supporters of the verse about errors in my version of the profile before publishing it.
 
LittleGuy99 said:
Spamton didn't have the shadow crystal in base, the shadow crystal inside the NEO body is what makes it powerful.
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it's so powerful because it's the embodiement of Mettaton's hopes and dreams. And it has a shadow crystal because it's so powerful.
 
Ti58 said:
it's so powerful because it's the embodiement of Mettaton's hopes and dreams. And it has a shadow crystal because it's so powerful.
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So, if the shadow crystals do nothing, what are they used for?
Gerson said he didn't want to use it, implying that he can use it for something and based on what we know, that would be to become stronger
Edit: I think the entire fandom agrees that's what it does, everything points to that (For now)
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
current scaling says Gerson likely gets high diffed
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As if current scaling isn't just vibes: "midway parental figure and mentor shouldn't be stronger than main villain(for now)".
If not for the fact that Knight was able to dodge Rude busters on chapters 4, it would have been heavy stomp(by Gerson) feat wise
 
LittleGuy99 said:
So, if the shadow crystals do nothing, what are they used for?
Gerson said he didn't want to use it, implying that he can use it for something and based on what we know, that would be to become stronger
Edit: I think the entire fandom agrees that's what it does, everything points to that (For now)
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they're related to the entire secret boss insanity things and stuff, not looking at the crystal is what made Gerson not insane

Kris also is a shadow crystal holder technically but doesn't get stronger

I don't think the entire fandom agrees lmao
 
Ti58 said:
Shadow crystals don't make you stronger.
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As @LittleGuy99 pointed out there is evidence to suggest it does, it's just not outright stated yet.

We don't know the actual process of their effects but it's implied that Spamton needed the Shadow Crystal to "become NEO" in a sense. While it's not explicitly just a power booster, it's a device that can be used to gain power in some way or another. We don't know what would've happened if Gerson used it but his dialogue implies it would've been bad if he did. It would've likely influenced/corrupted him and likely given him a power boost, albeit maybe not as huge of a boost as Spamton gets.
 
Edutyn said:
Should I wait for revisions or can I publish Gerson's profile?
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Littlr nitpick:
"Gerson is the best example of a Lightner who, having passed away, was able to reincarnate as a Darkner after his hammer, covered in his dust, was affected by a Dark Fountain."
He is only example we have. Closest to him are Dreemurrs, both of which were resurrected by determination (which is required for dark fountain creation)
 
Edutyn said:
Should I wait for revisions or can I publish Gerson's profile?
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Probably give Gerson resistance to whatever the Titan has (fear stuff) and also why is he far higher instead of higher?

By the way, Seam actually calls him impossible to defeat for the fun gang, so more evidence of the scaling
 
SnakesCity said:
Seam only ever calls the Knight fight impossible without the shadow mantle in Chapter 2.
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Seam talking about Knight:
But don't let down your guard. I feel your next opponent may be... hm.
In reality, it may be impossible to win.
... Unless you use the power of the Shadow Mantle.

Seam talking about Gerson:
It's strange. By all reasonable means, the strength of your next opponent...
Should be enough to already ring the bell on your defeat.
But, for some reason... I can't help but think you may win.
What is this feeling? ... Hope? Hahaha! Whatever it is, it's quite funny!
 
Ti58 said:
Probably give Gerson resistance to whatever the Titan has (fear stuff) and also why is he far higher instead of higher?
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He's Old!

During the fight, Gerson never showed his full strength, as he held back considerably to teach Susie (the damage decreased as Susie's health goes down), and because he was able to severely damage the Titan's shell, which has 800 HP, something that no member of the Fun Gan was able to do.
 
Edutyn said:
Sorry about that! Since I saw that no one had made any progress with Gerson's profile, I decided to finish what I could. I'm sorry if that bothered you in any way.
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Eh, it's fine, really. You could probably tried copying parts of my profile and pasted over to yours, while also adding some re-adjustments to it if you wanted since its basically finished (honestly didn't feel like doing the abilities section part...)
either way, I'm contented with this.
 
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Edutyn said:
Updated, Titan PE was accepted and Mike's feats were rejected
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This feat was accepted, and changes for LS calculations in original SoJ calc were accepted too. And add this one too(currently unaccepted)
Seeing someone unironically saying that Sans can tank Knight SWOON attack fills you with DETERMINATION to finally push upgrades
 
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Edutyn said:
He's Old!

During the fight, Gerson never showed his full strength, as he held back considerably to teach Susie (the damage decreased as Susie's health goes down), and because he was able to severely damage the Titan's shell, which has 800 HP, something that no member of the Fun Gan was able to do.
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why is that evidence of far higher and not just higher

the Titan shield can be destroyed by the fun gang without soul light it just takes a lot of time
 
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