His own RE is less reliable and potent as Logos
Given Dante's better upscaling that doesn't really matter
It means the second Clive outpaces him in growth he's gonna be in a severe AP disadvantage
Dante has a lot of ways to end the fight before that happen.
Conjecture unless you go into severe circular arguments, the Yamato can stab him just fine after he got stronger and he doesn't stay there
I'm not entirely sure what this is saying, but Dante's pretty blatantly faster, he'll have no problem getting in as many hits as he needs to negate Clive's regen
Such as?
In context he was basically using a DT explosion, or else he wouldn't be drained by Nobodies in 5, else you wanna argue that literally everything is layered in DMC
That context doesn't change anything. And nobodies as a counter argument aren't a good example given their entire thing are being anamolies in reality that can exist without names. Also like, it's blatant that there are layers to hax in DMC
That's not really how absolute zero works, absolute zero is not the instant freezing of kinetic energy within molecules, it's impossible to maintain stable absolute zero inside an atmosphere because any object would be constantly absorbing thermal radiation, absolute zero is not some magical durability negation tool. Dante's regen neg is also overblown because Berial is just support of regen being stamina based, and Beowulf has no way to have decent regeneration proven.
Explain how Berial is support of Regen being stamina based, and beowulf is a demon, demons have low godly Regen, you have to just assume for no reason this one specific demon doesn't have regen.
as for the absolute zero argument, you are using IRL physics about it being impossible to maintain absolute zero when the hax comes from supernatural demonic entities. it's like a fundamentally silly argument.
Not in a serious fight to the death and just dealing with fodder, again, Logos just outpaces him like Urizen did
They were fighting against each other seriously. They'ven never not fought each other seriously
This is what the yellow orb does
This doesn't really matter to the argument. Dante has far more healing and recovery options
How? Dante has 0 time resistance feats and Vergil is only unaffected by time manipulation in the context of an uncharged Ragtime in 5, after he already consumed the fruit which is noted by Nico's report and his difference in SDT mechanics to make him different.
The bangle of time is not a real time stop, so it doesn't grant any level of immunity for Vergil when he resist it as Nelo Angelo.
Dante was able to RE his way into adjusting to the time and reality screwing environment of the demon world. The link you send doesn't at all say it's not a real time stop, just that it can be resisted. Dante's time stop works on demons from the demon world, who have accepted acausality.
Mb, not unofficial, but blatantly contradicted by the Japanese one and in-game depiction of the quick heart.
Both are valid
I just think arguing for Dante requires way more generosity and circular reasoning than saying Clive just grows too strong for him to handle
You keep saying circular reasoning but aren't exactly explaining why. Sure, Clive growing too strong to handle is a wincon, but I mean I think Dante just has pretty easy options to put Clive down before that could ever be a threat, and he already fought Urizen for the better part of the day while Urizen was constantly amping himself on human blood, and given he can sense differences and rises in strength, Dante's not going to sit around on his ass and let that happen
