Devil May Cry Discussion Thread

[GinDan]

I’ve seen Death Battle’s feats again, and honestly, most of the biggest ones come from DMC1 and the novels. The only real feat from DMC5 worth mentioning in terms of speed is Judgment Cut.

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I think Death Battle actually gave Dante an advantage with Quicksilver, Nevan, and even a second Devil Sword Dante during SDT I didn’t really understand what that was supposed to do.

However, Dante could’ve actually won with Demolition, since it bypasses durability, but they didn’t use it.

But after playing FF16, I’ve got to say the presentation of power in that game is light-years ahead of DMC5. The scale, the impact, the destruction it just feels so much more massive.


I really think that if Kamiya had made DMC5, the level of destruction buildings, landscapes, maybe even planets would’ve been absolutely insane.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Dante didnt simp for Lady, especially after all the shit she done to him and called her out on whats her problem various times, including moments he saved her

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Dante didnt simp for Lady, especially after all the shit she done to him and called her out on whats her problem various times, including moments he saved her

Bro doesn't understand the difference between banter and simping.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Bro doesn't understand the difference between banter and simping.

He doesnt understand a lot of things snd complains as if anyone cares to hear the parroting

 

[Follow_Doctor_Freeman]

People are free to prefer one aesthetic over the other, yet I find it annoying -- hmm, let me rephrase this for the laffs -- I find it annoying when some people say that blowing big stuff up is automatically better than anything else. I don't much care if DMC is never T1 or whatever (though I'd prefer for what is there to be read correctly) but let's not pretend that gigakabooms are all that matter, even for just goofy things like powerscaling. There's more to an aesthetic than that. But if gigakabooms are all you're after, then you'd be better off reading Suggsverse or maybe those ludicrous Chinese pulp novels that say stuff like "they threw a kazillion punches in the span of a heartbeat" than pestering DMC threads with bad downplay headcanons.

 

[Marosuke]

I understand how people see DMC now.
To cleanse your nightmares, I’ll post my blog. I'll upgrade the DMC cosmology page someday.
But I have to downgrade DMC to Low 2-C first, since the demon world is more like an astral plane.

 

[Follow_Doctor_Freeman]

I understand how people see DMC now.
To cleanse your nightmares, I’ll post my blog. I'll upgrade the DMC cosmology page someday.
But I have to downgrade DMC to Low 2-C first, since the demon world is more like an astral plane.

Nice info collection, though I don't see any of that concretely being T1. Metaphysics and subjective reality in fiction can be more "parallel" as opposed to qualitatively superior in all respects like Azathoth's dream and whatnot. Do continue gathering stuff like this, though; I doubt major upgrades are in order but I like seeing motifs gathered and contexutalized like this and it may help pave the way to upgrades if anything more concrete is found.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I understand how people see DMC now.
To cleanse your nightmares, I’ll post my blog. I'll upgrade the DMC cosmology page someday.
But I have to downgrade DMC to Low 2-C first, since the demon world is more like an astral plane.

Isn't that the blog that was rejected in the last thread?

 

[Huesito88]

Tony back at it again with them downgrades

DMC downgrade... again?

So, the current demon physiology is absolute garbage has a section called "passive" for demons which are things done by the demon world. Why demons have things the demon world does as their abilities? Demons never do those, why do they have it? Then we have another problem, more than half of...

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[Marosuke]

Nice info collection, though I don't see any of that concretely being T1. Metaphysics and subjective reality in fiction can be more "parallel" as opposed to qualitatively superior in all respects like Azathoth's dream and whatnot. Do continue gathering stuff like this, though; I doubt major upgrades are in order but I like seeing motifs gathered and contexutalized like this and it may help pave the way to upgrades if anything more concrete is found.

Yeah, I will
I'm not familiar with Azathoth. So I guess I have much to learn.

Isn't that the blog that was rejected in the last thread?

Yes. I just reused it. Should I make another one?

Tony back at it again with them downgrades

That is something like "No. I'm the one who’s gonna kill you" energy.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Tony back at it again with them downgrades

DMC downgrade... again?

So, the current demon physiology is absolute garbage has a section called "passive" for demons which are things done by the demon world. Why demons have things the demon world does as their abilities? Demons never do those, why do they have it? Then we have another problem, more than half of...

vsbattles.com

I need to fix the pages, it will come after cutting some heads

 

[Thehunter077]

Mf saying Dante simp for Lady while their bantering like you and your friend for lols

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

All people on this thread would fold immediately in front of Lady or Trish for that matter

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

All people on this thread would fold immediately in front of Lady or Trish for that matter

nah

if it was Beryl tho...

 

[BlackDarkness679]

All people on this thread would fold immediately in front of Lady or Trish for that matter

So you suggest everyone loves a woman that would kill them at any sign of flirting with them?

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Where does the argument "Dante's regeneration is linked to his stamina" come from???

 

[Tanin_iver]

Where does the argument "Dante's regeneration is linked to his stamina" come from???

Death Battle since 2017, because they said so?

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Death Battle since 2017, because they said so?

I rewatched the Death Battle and they mentioned that in the DMC5 guide it says Nero couldn't regenerate his arm because "Vergil removed Nero's demonic power." Later they talked about V and said "V would decay without constant use of demonic energy."

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I think it also comes from Dante and Vergil 2nd fight in DMC3 where both were tired and wounded as Arkham/Jester says, allowing to dunk on them

 

[WAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH]

They also said that Nelo Angelo's healing was "overtaxed" too.

 

[WAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH]

I rewatched the Death Battle and they mentioned that in the DMC5 guide it says Nero couldn't regenerate his arm because "Vergil removed Nero's demonic power." Later they talked about V and said "V would decay without constant use of demonic energy."

That honestly feels like it has more to do with Nero and V's situations, no?

 

[Tanin_iver]

That honestly feels like it has more to do with Nero and V's situations, no?

Yup

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I rewatched the Death Battle and they mentioned that in the DMC5 guide it says Nero couldn't regenerate his arm because "Vergil removed Nero's demonic power." Later they talked about V and said "V would decay without constant use of demonic energy."

I mean, to be fair Nero took a hit when it comes to demonic energy and even Malphas calls him an empty shell/husk because of that regardless of his relationship with Sparda.

But that MF definitely still has regeneration, Urizen gave him a beating the first time and he was like nothing after that (in Visions of V)

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I mean, to be fair Nero took a hit when it comes to demonic energy and even Malphas calls him an empty shell/husk because of that regardless of his relationship with Sparda.

But that MF definitely still has regeneration, Urizen gave him a beating the first time and he was like nothing after that (in Visions of V)

Yup

In any case, the argument less or more demonic energy = less or more regeneration from Death Battle may make sense since Dante heals faster in Devil Trigger, and Agnus also healed when he absorbed the demonic energy of the demons he summoned.

 

[WAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH]

In any case, the argument less or more demonic energy = less or more regeneration from Death Battle may make sense since Dante heals faster in Devil Trigger, and Agnus also healed when he absorbed the demonic energy of the demons he summoned.

What they imply though is that Dante will die from Clive once he's out of DT/SDT cause it drains his energy, and thus his regen.
Which I'm pretty sure isn't true, even in gameplay perspective.

 

[Thehunter077]

Dante heals faster in Devil Trigger,

Funny thing is, not also heal faster but blantantly even fill up his demonic energy

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

[0-0-0] Getting That Child Support - Toji VS Vergil - JJK VS Devil May Cry

Intro: In the year of our Lord 2025, Dante lost to Clive. While this was a sad day for all of us, it was even worse for Vergil—not because he lost his brother, but because he now had to pay child support to Nero. Meanwhile, over in Japan, Toji Fushiguro has been cornered by the government and...

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

What they imply though is that Dante will die from Clive once he's out of DT/SDT cause it drains his energy, and thus his regen.

If his regeneration is linked to his energy, perhaps that's the case?

 

[Thehunter077]

If his regeneration is linked to his energy, perhaps that's the case?

He constantly fighting Urizen for 24 hours yet still regenerate just fine, despite having so much energy just to break through.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Devil May Cry: Rebellion, Devil Sword Sparda and Dante Additions.

Rebellion Spatial Manipulation: Can tear space apart itself. Devil Sword Sparda Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation and Portal Creation: Can cut through space and time to allow travel from the Human World to the Demon World. Devil Sword Dante Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation and...

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[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

He constantly fighting Urizen for 24 hours yet still regenerate just fine, despite having so much energy just to break through.

Did he suffer any fatal injuries during this fight? As far as we know, he was just hit and thrown away because Urizen was toying with him.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Did he suffer any fatal injuries during this fight? As far as we know, he was just hit and thrown away because Urizen was toying with him.

We have no idea really. If someone was attempting to downplay this, they'd have just as much evidence as someone trying to wank it.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Did he suffer any fatal injuries during this fight? As far as we know, he was just hit and thrown away because Urizen was toying with him.

Urizen wasn't playing with him... at least not at the beginning

Yeah, after the 25 hours of fighting he says and I quote "Why should I... Just to crush a single bug? Now I realize. You are no longer... a threat to me."

But that's after a full day growing fat on power thanks to the Qliphoth pumping his ass full of blood, we have no idea how the fight went down prior to that

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Death Battle Predictions: Dante VS Bayonetta (2025)

“I am a demon hunter. Clearly, I am not afraid of the dark.” -Cassandra Clare Dante, the half-human, half-demon hunter from Devil May Cry. Bayonetta, the platinum-starred angel-slaying Umbra Witch.…

g1-team.com

They remade the blog, they took in consideration just a version of Dante from PoC, used quadruple S, denied demon world being infinite and were adamant stamina affects regen and that regen neg aint a thing

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

denied demon world being infinite and were adamant stamina affects regen and that regen neg aint a thing

They're not completely wrong about some things, ngl.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

were adamant stamina affects regen and that regen neg aint a thing

I think we have wrongly assumed that all the scenes where we see Dante, Vergil and other demons struggling to regenerate are regeneration negation when they are just evidence that their regeneration is just linked to their stamina (especially since it is never explicitly stated that regeneration negation is involved).

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Death Battle Predictions: Dante VS Bayonetta (2025)

“I am a demon hunter. Clearly, I am not afraid of the dark.” -Cassandra Clare Dante, the half-human, half-demon hunter from Devil May Cry. Bayonetta, the platinum-starred angel-slaying Umbra Witch.…

g1-team.com

They remade the blog, they took in consideration just a version of Dante from PoC, used quadruple S, denied demon world being infinite and were adamant stamina affects regen and that regen neg aint a thing

 

[Tanin_iver]

I think we have wrongly assumed that all the scenes where we see Dante, Vergil and other demons struggling to regenerate are regeneration negation when they are just evidence that their regeneration is just linked to their stamina (especially since it is never explicitly stated that regeneration negation is involved).

Beowulf's eyepatch would like to have a word. Possibly even Bolverk's eyepatch and Mundus's open heart might join in on the convo.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Beowulf's eyepatch would like to have a word.

It could just be a limit to his regeneration. Demons don't all necessarily have the same regeneration.

 

[Tanin_iver]

It could just be a limit to his regeneration. Demons don't all necessarily have the same regeneration.

So a High Tier Demon who also get turned into a Devil Arm that is known to reconstitute from spiritual matter is also somehow incapable of regening an eye?
But fodder Demons can regen from much worse?