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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Mommyleona said:
when was it about the wheel specifically?
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What else would it be? In the battle with Gojo the only thing that happened with Ten Shadows before never being used again was the wheel being destroyed. It was never stated to be anything related to the brain damage so it's safe to say that it's due to the wheel mechanism
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
What else would it be? In the battle with Gojo the only thing that happened with Ten Shadows before never being used again was the wheel being destroyed. It was never stated to be anything related to the brain damage so it's safe to say that it's due to the wheel mechanism
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its stated to be Mahoraga dying by Sukuna, check 266
and no, Sukuna killing untamed Mahoraga isnt the same as killing a tamed one, its stated that untamed 10S can be summoned as many times as needed
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Again, it's literally stated and shown that if the wheel is gonne the technique itself is destroyed.
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First, I already know based on this that, if Mahoraga (notice how it says Mahoraga not the wheel) is destroyed completely, then ten shadows is gone, only there's only one problem when using that here. In this case of Sukuna destroying Maho and the wheel, it was Megumi's untamed Maho that can be summoned an infinite ammount of times for the substigation ritual, not a fully tamed Maho. Second, mahoraga initially got shredded by regular dismantles, cleaves and by MS even in the manga but simply adapted to them, as shown here in the manga where's he's completely fine in MS and in the anime where he, after getting shredded, regening, and adapting, was fine in MS
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LIFE_OF_KING said:
It doesn't make any sense for the wheel to tank DIVINE FLAMES but get destroyed by average dismantles
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well, it became goop in the anime shortly after Raga died due to the heat or just Mahoraga dying soooooo
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Mommyleona said:
its stated to be Mahoraga dying by Sukuna, check 266
and no, Sukuna killing untamed Mahoraga isnt the same as killing a tamed one, its stated that untamed 10S can be summoned as many times as needed
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? If destroying the wheel makes the Ten Shadows technique be erased, destroying an untaned Mahoraga wheel needs to AT LEAST kill it
Anonymous_Learner said:
well, it became goop in the anime shortly after Raga died due to the heat or just Mahoraga dying soooooo
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That goop is not from heat, Anonymous, it's just Mahoraga coming back to the Ten Shadows
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
The domain should just be the full output of what he had at the time. I don't think there's any reason to assume it'd be his full output like with Gojo cause that wouldn't instantly killed Yuji and torn straight through him.
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I'd agree but the narrator straight up says the reason the domain collapses in 99 seconds is cause he doesn't reduce range or difficulty or output and unleashes his open domain just like he did in Shibuya.
He's also planning on using fuga so he's less focused on killing them with slashes but more on spreading his fire ce dust or wtv and detonate it before 99 seconds is over.
Also take into account:
  1. That he's holding the handsign the entire time the slashes are raining down on them
  2. They are also holding the simple domain pose without moving
  3. He's targeting multiple people so his domain output is split between them and this isn't like Dagon who focused more on a specific person
  4. Todo was gradually swapping them out as time passed until it was just Itadori and Choso, the only people who's SD broke right before the slashes were stopped by Sukuna
  5. When it came to Gojo, he had lowered his domain range massively to just barely bigger than Gojo's domain to boost its power and he kept it at this decreased range when he broke all of Gojo's Simple Domain attempts.
  6. To further show how much of a crazy boost reducing range for power gives, Sukuna reducing his range to match Yuta's basketball domain outline was enough to remove the 99 second time limit and maybe even his need to keep the handsign constantly.
With all this in mind, I don't think its that crazy to believe his domain could operate at full output.
 
So the manga feats take priority over the anime ones right? I got the anime version of Blue to class G (accepted) while the manga version is Class M. We can't use it right?
 
Gokukid2005 said:
I'd agree but the narrator straight up says the reason the domain collapses in 99 seconds is cause he doesn't reduce range or difficulty or output and unleashes his open domain just like he did in Shibuya.
He's also planning on using fuga so he's less focused on killing them with slashes but more on spreading his fire ce dust or wtv and detonate it before 99 seconds is over.
Also take into account:
  1. That he's holding the handsign the entire time the slashes are raining down on them
  2. They are also holding the simple domain pose without moving
  3. He's targeting multiple people so his domain output is split between them and this isn't like Dagon who focused more on a specific person
  4. Todo was gradually swapping them out as time passed until it was just Itadori and Choso, the only people who's SD broke right before the slashes were stopped by Sukuna
  5. When it came to Gojo, he had lowered his domain range massively to just barely bigger than Gojo's domain to boost its power and he kept it at this decreased range when he broke all of Gojo's Simple Domain attempts.
  6. To further show how much of a crazy boost reducing range for power gives, Sukuna reducing his range to match Yuta's basketball domain outline was enough to remove the 99 second time limit and maybe even his need to keep the handsign constantly.
With all this in mind, I don't think its that crazy to believe his domain could operate at full output.
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That still doesn't account for the fact that if it was actually his full output, Yuji and Choso would've been ripped apart. LIFE was asking if the "full output" meant the same level of output he had against Gojo and I think that's unlikely given that Gojo needed RCT at full blast to combat the slashes that were cutting through him. For someone like Yuji to take that with minimal RCT is unlikely.
 
Mommyleona said:
i dont understand what you mean... destroying the wheel is never ever mentioned, 10S stopped working because Mahoraga died, it has nothing to do with the wheel
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You don't always need something directly stated. We know that what destroyed Ten Shadows for good was Mahoraga's death, with Gege directly showing us that such death was followed by the wheels destruction, the same wheel that survived Divine Flames and was the only thing left. It's a obvious example of "Show, don't tell"

Either way, Mahoraga's wheel was NEVER destroyed in the manga, and was the only thing that survived Divine Flames. We won't use the anime when it contradicts the manga
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
You don't always need something directly stated
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In this case we have a direct statement from Sukuna, which overrides any assumptions
LIFE_OF_KING said:
We know that what destroyed Ten Shadows for good was Mahoraga's death, with Gege directly showing us that such death was followed by the wheels destruction, the same wheel that survived Divine Flames and was the only thing left. It's a obvious example of "Show, don't tell"
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i dont really think so, you're putting too much importance on the wheel
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Either way, Mahoraga's wheel was NEVER destroyed in the manga, and was the only thing that survived Divine Flames. We won't use the anime when it contradicts the manga
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Im not using the anime gng
 
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AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
That still doesn't account for the fact that if it was actually his full output, Yuji and Choso would've been ripped apart. LIFE was asking if the "full output" meant the same level of output he had against Gojo and I think that's unlikely given that Gojo needed RCT at full blast to combat the slashes that were cutting through him. For someone like Yuji to take that with minimal RCT is unlikely.
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Yuji was amped by 7BF and his BF was implied to improved and he did got cut. Some important parts were able to tank the cleave. So it's highly likely he used BM to protect them like how Choso uses to protect himself from Sukuna's BF.
Also I don't think Choso tanked Sukuna's sure hit. More like he might be just good with SD to protect himself. More like his SD lasted more than others. His durability ain't surving same slashes which almost ripped Yuji apart
 
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