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Al might actually become one of the opponents harder to beat than anybody else in the verse 
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Re Zero Discussion Thread: Season 4 is Real
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Fezzih_007
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Only way to kill him is like for snipe him kilometers away, not even entering his domain?
Or the range for agressor is Infinite?
Would be crazy If It was.
Or the range for agressor is Infinite?
Would be crazy If It was.
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Did you "spoiler tag" the wrong line?
Zabazab
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As long as Al's in his Domain, he cannot die even if you were outside of the Domain. He can be made vulnerable if he's sent outside of his Domain and killed before he can define a new Domain.
If you're outside the Domain, you can't be given the Aggressor side, so Al would just die, reset, and then evade the snipe.
No.
EL_xWatcher1234x
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Shouldn't the White Whale Info type 1 manipulation ?
EL_xWatcher1234x
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My knowledge come from the anime alone.
Does the whale actually erase the past or is that an exaggeration ? Why didn't Rem body get erased ?
Zabazab
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The White Whale did erase Rem's body. Its Mist of Annihilation physically erases anything it touches from reality, erases their Name from Od Lagna's register of the Names of all life, and erases proof of their existence such as anything they had written.
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it would have type 1 info manip added i think?
Al literally defeated yae
Emilia didnt job, Al was forced to create a situation where Emilia would have to save him instead and risk herself. She unironically aura farmed the entire time, Rem was the one who jobbed since she was fighting a nerfed yae (at her weakest) while being at her strongest and still lost and had to cheat her way through
Fezzih_007
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Satella, you don't know what the term 'job' means lmao.
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EL_xWatcher1234x
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That's more than memory manipulation, it's knowledge erasure and whatever the soul is.
Zabazab
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Causality Manip yea
EL_xWatcher1234x
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And what part of that is causality manipulation ?
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Zabazab
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Erased the fact that Rem had written the letter to Roswaal Mansion, resulting in it being blank.
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It actually only deletes things that mention them. Aka why her clothes or weapon etc didn't disappear.
Her room had traits of "her personality", which is why those things disappeared.
If she had a child, the child wouldn't disappear based on Rem being erased etc etc.
Zabazab
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Yeah, because someone else delivered it, so that fact couldn't be erased.
Those things remain(ed) because she was not the sole one "involved" in them being there. Rem didn't forge her morningstar, she didn't make her own clothes, and a hypothetical child is their own person too. The Mist of Annihilation couldn't interfere with the actions of people it hasn't targeted.
So I'd argue that, hypothetically, if the courier who delivered the letter were erased, the entire letter would vanish instead of just being blank.
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BoastJr
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Nah thats totally how it works
casuality is linked to events. If certain events do not occur then the following events related to it would not occur
EL_xWatcher1234x
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We're talking about a person geting erased≠never existing. The fact that the letter although blank and her clothes and weapons remained is evident that someone was erased instead of never existed(causality).
Didn't her twin sister sacrificed her horn for he? Did she gain it back after the "erasure"?
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EL_xWatcher1234x
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So, it's not able to delete anything other than the person this i.cluding his clothes and weapons for example. How is that causality manipulation ?
Causality is not limited to a single person, cause it will leave to domino effect. if he manipulated causality and made it so A never existed then B and C won't exist either instead he only erase the person alongsiede his proof(knowledge/writing...) of existence, but leave related subjects like children that he made. That's pretty much knowledge manipulation. Atleast add Info type 1 erasure.
The whale erasure doesn't work like that.
Causality is not limited to a single person, cause it will leave to domino effect. if he manipulated causality and made it so A never existed then B and C won't exist either instead he only erase the person alongsiede his proof(knowledge/writing...) of existence, but leave related subjects like children that he made. That's pretty much knowledge manipulation. Atleast add Info type 1 erasure.
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the causality erasure doesnt affect things that include other people's actions since it only erases things that are related to the person erased
EL_xWatcher1234x
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Then it's not causality manipulation, but a form of history erasure. It's similar to the omega device from Rick and Morty
There no manipulation of cause and effect just EE.
Zabazab
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Rem being erased is EE. Her actions being undone is causality manipulation.
Because Rem (the cause) is erased, the effect (writing the letter) was erased in consequence. Because Subaru handed over the letter (someone who had not been erased), the fact that the letter had been handed over remained, and only the fact that it was not blank was undone.
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Deku and his beef with Bakugo's voice actor
Deku (Dark hero arc) Vs Garfiel (arc 7) Speed is equalised Both are 8A, everything above is restricted Starting distance is 20m SBA
Fezzih_007
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So, the Pages have the characters at 7-A still, even trought we agreed to downgrade them.
Can I change that? I gonna have free time after I done with something I doing.
Can I change that? I gonna have free time after I done with something I doing.
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I mean, they just didn't change it because they're planning an upgrade (basically changing it rn takes unnecessary time).
But you can change it if you wanna spend your time on it ig
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That's just Type 1 info/text manip. What you are saying is like: A erased B and because of that C forgot B, that must mean A has EE on a causal level
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Lilybitdun
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I feel like you could also include explosion size by getting the average size of large cities, looks good thowrong discussion thr-
nvm
anyways here is a calc blog for the magic cannon
bringing back tier 7 to Re:Zero
vsbattles.fandom.com
has someone calced the Mezoreia breath feats already or is it just getting scaled to like Small City / City level via the statements?
Zabazab
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Probably could. There's an illustration showing the layout of Lupugana and it'd be as easy as stretching a cylinder of pulverization (maybe melting?) from north to south.
It's not about erasing memories. It has Memory Manip for that. It's about erasing her action (having written the letter). The fact that Rem wrote that letter was erased, but since only Rem was targeted, it couldn't change the fact that the letter was handed over by someone else, which is why it turned blank.
And I'm familiar with Pochita's EE. He doesn't have causality manip because his erasure doesn't undo actions like the Mist of Annihilation. Calling it "better" isn't even correct as Pochita doesn't even physically erase the target, he erases a concept they embody from the world outside of his stomach.
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Damn, we getting cooked on reddit
Fezzih_007
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Wow.
I kinda starting to hate this memes. Not because is hating on Vs Wiki, like no I recomend doing It, but also ignores Speed value, or any bullshit that the characters have about the AP.
And they getting repetive.
But is also funny that Otto can Just one shot Megumi, so I don't Care much.
I kinda starting to hate this memes. Not because is hating on Vs Wiki, like no I recomend doing It, but also ignores Speed value, or any bullshit that the characters have about the AP.
And they getting repetive.
But is also funny that Otto can Just one shot Megumi, so I don't Care much.
Zabazab
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Getting cooked on reddit don't mean you were wrong. But yeah a ton of the pages aren't good bc they're old. It's slowly being fixed. Some pages are daunting though.
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put that on my insta story btw lmao
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The new chapter...holy
So, a lot of stuff has happened and they are gonna be dealing with the aggressor role without rom. I dont think its beatable tbh but lets see
Al one shotting garf again
he doesnt even have the excuse of miasma debuff
Al one shotting garf again
he doesnt even have the excuse of miasma debuff
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