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Battle of Blondies (Bridget vs. Derieri) (Neon Cavaliers vs Nanatsu no Taiza)

Yeah, I'm slowly going through the story and revamping profiles when I have free time from work. Anyway, with that out of the way, how would Derieri handle Bridget using telekinesis to retstrain her and anything else I should know about Derieri?
Class P was accepted for anyone above S1 Diane.

Bridget doesn’t even have a Class T calc she won’t be able to restrain Derrieri at all.

People like DM2 unsealed Meli that were already superior to commandments individually got cooked by Derrieri with her star combo and couldn’t interrupt her despite being on a lvl of skill Bridget can’t even think to replicate.

Ngl she is cooked.
 
Class P was accepted for anyone above S1 Diane.
Was accepted but the thread hasn't yet. So for now she's still Class T.
Bridget doesn’t even have a Class T calc she won’t be able to restrain Derrieri at all.
Class T comes from scaling to Alex, who could restrain and flip the Spirit Tortoise and the Azure Dragon is in the same weight class as it.
People like DM2 unsealed Meli that were already superior to commandments individually got cooked by Derrieri with her star combo and couldn’t interrupt her despite being on a lvl of skill Bridget can’t even think to replicate.
Bridget's combat intelligence is incredibly vast and she has infinite stamina. I'll add more to it later since I'm currently at work rn.
 
Was accepted but the thread hasn't yet. So for now she's still Class T.
Accepted calculations doesn’t need to wait for the thread to be applied.

What we need to wait for is the new scaling chain Derrieri and anyone superior to Diane would scale to the baseline of the calc.

You can go ahead and add those since it’s been accepted

Class T comes from scaling to Alex, who could restrain and flip the Spirit Tortoise and the Azure Dragon is in the same weight class as it.
Where’s the calc

Bridget's combat intelligence is incredibly vast and she has infinite stamina. I'll add more to it later since I'm currently at work rn.
Stamina isn’t a skill.

Meliodas has thousands of years of war against the most fearsome opponents in history, he is able to throw weapons from miles away and still hit his target with pin point accuracy, can fight against invisible beings and trap them, 1v3 people on par with him physically despite one of them being a mage that fully counters his abilities, composite great swordsmasters inside of Excalibur knew they couldn’t do shit to him and King Arthur after learning all these abilities said himself Meliodas wouldn’t even get hit once in a 1v1 against him, he learned King’s ability after seeing it once.

Derrieri was perfectly able to combo him entirely despite him being able to easily 1v2 commandments relative to her.
 
Here's the spirit tortoise calc
There is a line of text where Bridget throws the Azure Dragon close to the ground. I could actually calculate that and see what it gives since it's just Force = Mass × Acceleration.
 
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There is a line of text where Bridget throws the Azure Dragon close to the ground. I could actually calculate that and see what it gives since it's just Force = Mass × Acceleration.
Well, I did the calc and I asked Colonel Krukov about calcs on FC/OC on Discord and was told that as long as the math seems fine, they can be used without evaluation.
You can go ahead and add those since it’s been accepted
Also, Kaydee.X was talking about the 5-A calcs there, not the Class P.
 
Well, I did the calc and I asked Colonel Krukov about calcs on FC/OC on Discord and was told that as long as the math seems fine, they can be used without evaluation.
Thing is, you take a character from FC/OC and put it against a VSBW character on VSBW it’s weird to adapt the rules of the VS to another fandom with laxist rules
Also, Kaydee.X was talking about the 5-A calcs there, not the Class P.
The chain was given and the baseline was already accepted
 
Thing is, you take a character from FC/OC and put it against a VSBW character on VSBW it’s weird to adapt the rules of the VS to another fandom with laxist rules
FC/OC has their own rules when it comes to vs matches. Matches from Alt Battles and the main VSBW site are allowed, but the matches can't be added to the main site.
The chain was given and the baseline was already accepted
I'm aware
 
Well, I did the calc and I asked Colonel Krukov about calcs on FC/OC on Discord and was told that as long as the math seems fine, they can be used without evaluation.

Also, Kaydee.X was talking about the 5-A calcs there, not the Class P.
Regarding the calc, the Komodo dragon’s width was used, use height instead.

The dragon is 3200m tall if he was flying around 6400m his body would already represent half the distance.

Also 42000ft is the Highest possible end

A more conservative end would be 4000 meters height

Your formula is for constant acceleration, she threw the dragon.
 
Derrieri:

AP
1.8x AP gap in base
Higher at night
Far higher with Rage Power (Usually a stomp worth amp)
Far higher with Star Combo (Damage boost that stacks with each hit)

DURABILITY
Derrieri no sells her own Rage power amped attacks getting full countered (at least 3.6x Bridget’s AP), Higher with darkness

LS
18x LS gap (despite the Bridget calc being a decently highballed result Derrieri ragdolled unsealed DM2 Meliodas with no real difficulty)

Layered fear hax
Increased range with Darkness
Mid regen
Massively upscales from 28000 C

I think this fight is pretty hard for someone like Bridget that lacks win conditions.
 
Far higher with Rage Power (Usually a stomp worth amp)
Far higher with Star Combo (Damage boost that stacks with each hit)
Where does she have rage power? Should be on her profile in P&A if she does have that unless I missed something. Combo star depends on how many times she can land it and if Bridget dodges even once, it's broken.
 
Where does she have rage power? Should be on her profile in P&A if she does have that unless I missed something
Anyone in verse gets amped by strong emotions, will etc…

All demons have rage power
. Combo star depends on how many times she can land it and if Bridget dodges even once, it's broken.
Even if Bridget dodges sometimes, each attacks stacks and become more powerful and lands more damage than the already decent 1.8x gap
 
Regarding the calc, the Komodo dragon’s width was used, use height instead.

The dragon is 3200m tall if he was flying around 6400m his body would already represent half the distance.

Also 42000ft is the Highest possible end

A more conservative end would be 4000 meters height

Your formula is for constant acceleration, she threw the dragon.
I fixed the calc using what you said. If you see any inaccuracies or mistakes I have made, let me know, and I'll fix them when I'm able to.
Anyone in verse gets amped by strong emotions, will etc…

All demons have rage power
I know Melidoas has it, but if every demon has it, then it should be listed in the Demon Clan Physiology.
 
Stamina isn’t a skill.
That's true, but it does affect the fight in the long run. Sure, Derieri's stamina is impressive, but Bridget's ability to fight indefinitely could nullify Derieri’s Star Combo amplification if she survives the initial bursts, especially with equalized speed.
Meliodas has thousands of years of war against the most fearsome opponents in history, he is able to throw weapons from miles away and still hit his target with pin point accuracy, can fight against invisible beings and trap them, 1v3 people on par with him physically despite one of them being a mage that fully counters his abilities, composite great swordsmasters inside of Excalibur knew they couldn’t do shit to him and King Arthur after learning all these abilities said himself Meliodas wouldn’t even get hit once in a 1v1 against him, he learned King’s ability after seeing it once.

Derrieri was perfectly able to combo him entirely despite him being able to easily 1v2 commandments relative to her.
Landing attacks on Meliodas does not equal combat intelligence. Derieri may be biologically 377, but she was sealed away for 3,000 years. While Dereri is skilled, she can't match Meliodas’ intelligence. Also, she was overwhelming him because of her combo star, not because of her combat intelligence, which is listed as above average on her profile. For an analogy, if someone landed a single punch on Mike Tyson, it wouldn’t make them equally skilled in boxing. Derieri’s effectiveness reflects raw power and mechanics, not intellectual parity.
 
That's true, but it does affect the fight in the long run. Sure, Derieri's stamina is impressive, but Bridget's ability to fight indefinitely could nullify Derieri’s Star Combo amplification if she survives the initial bursts, especially with equalized speed.

Landing attacks on Meliodas does not equal combat intelligence. Derieri may be biologically 377, but she was sealed away for 3,000 years. While Dereri is skilled, she can't match Meliodas’ intelligence. Also, she was overwhelming him because of her combo star, not because of her combat intelligence, which is listed as above average on her profile. For an analogy, if someone landed a single punch on Mike Tyson, it wouldn’t make them equally skilled in boxing. Derieri’s effectiveness reflects raw power and mechanics, not intellectual parity.
Still someone way more skilled than Bridget was overwhelmed by said raw power
 
Still someone way more skilled than Bridget was overwhelmed by said raw power
Just because Derieri overpowered Meliodas doesn’t mean she matches his combat intelligence. If I beat a pro gamer by spamming aggressive tactics, that doesn’t suddenly make me a pro — it means I relied on pressure, not superior skill or strategy. The same logic applies here: Derieri overwhelmed him through raw power and her Combo Star mechanic, not because she’s on Meliodas’s level in combat IQ.
 
If I beat a pro gamer by spamming aggressive tactics, that doesn’t suddenly make me a pro — it means I relied on pressure, not superior skill or strategy.
Counter Argument: Unless the character is meta-breaking, this analogy doesn't apply, as skilled gamers should know how to beat aggressive tactics. In fact, employing aggressive tactics in the correct fashion takes one to be skilled at the game to do. 👀
 
Counter Argument: Unless the character is meta-breaking, this analogy doesn't apply, as skilled gamers should know how to beat aggressive tactics. In fact, employing aggressive tactics in the correct fashion takes one to be skilled at the game to do. 👀
Aggressive tactics only show skill when they involve strategy. Derieri’s aggression didn't from what I'm seeing in the scans. She used raw pressure with her combo star, not tactical mastery, to break Meliodas' guard.

Edit: I'll reply to anything when I'm done with work since I typed that during my lunch
 
Just because Derieri overpowered Meliodas doesn’t mean she matches his combat intelligence. If I beat a pro gamer by spamming aggressive tactics, that doesn’t suddenly make me a pro — it means I relied on pressure, not superior skill or strategy. The same logic applies here: Derieri overwhelmed him through raw power and her Combo Star mechanic, not because she’s on Meliodas’s level in combat IQ.
Once again, i’m not arguing for her being as skilled as Meliodas.
My point is that Meliodas is way more skilled than Bridget but still couldn’t interrupt her combo.

Therefore it’s unlikely that she would be able to interupt it.

She would need a bigger skill gap than that between Meliodas and Derrieri
 
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Once again, i’m not arguing for her being as skilled as Meliodas.
My point is that Meliodas is way more skilled than Bridget but still couldn’t interrupt her combo.

Therefore it’s unlikely that she would be able to interupt it.

She would need a bigger skill gap than that between Meliodas and Derrieri
Bridget could absolutely interrupt or break the combo. She could teleport or use telekinesis to restrain Derieri. Meliodas couldn't interrupt her combo because, again, he was being pressured. Bridget could also disorient her foes with her Dragon's Flame skill.

To add to Bridget's Combat intelligence, she (like Astral) was given Aero's combat intelligence. Aero was able to fight Symbiant and land attacks on the fly with Astrid and can react to an attack accordingly, like Bridget has done before. Bridget was even dog walking Symbiant (Who absorbed Astrid, taking their intelligence and form) after being given Aero's combat intelligence. Bridget could also tell how strong Mecha-Satan was just by a few attacks and knew how to counter him when he was absorbing their energy. I'm not saying she's equal to Melidaos, but Bridget has clear ways to get around the stat amps.

Combined with her infinite stamina, Bridget can endure a few hits, analyze the situation, and exploit openings until Derieri tires or makes a mistake that gives Bridget an opening for a counter.
 
Bridget could absolutely interrupt or break the combo. She could teleport
This could work, but she’d still eat the damage from the first attacks.

Can she TP while getting stomped to death ?
or use telekinesis to restrain Derieri.
Derrieri is at least 6.29x stronger it won’t do shit
Meliodas couldn't interrupt her combo because, again, he was being pressured. Bridget could also disorient her foes with her Dragon's Flame skill.
Despite the skill gap being greater than between Derrieri and Bridget

To add to Bridget's Combat intelligence, she (like Astral) was given Aero's combat intelligence. Aero was able to fight Symbiant and land attacks on the fly with Astrid and can react to an attack accordingly, like Bridget has done before. Bridget was even dog walking Symbiant (Who absorbed Astrid, taking their intelligence and form) after being given Aero's combat intelligence. Bridget could also tell how strong Mecha-Satan was just by a few attacks and knew how to counter him when he was absorbing their energy. I'm not saying she's equal to Melidaos, but Bridget has clear ways to get around the stat amps.
So, she’s admittedly less skilled than someone that couldn’t get around it but we are supposed to believe that she would be able to.

Combined with her infinite stamina, Bridget can endure a few hits, analyze the situation, and exploit openings until Derieri tires or makes a mistake that gives Bridget an opening for a counter.
Stamina isn’t durability, a 1.8 gap in base would already deal decent damage, stacked with amps the would be great.

Even if Bridget were to counter it wouldn’t do shit ngl there is a 3.6x gap in base higher with darkness.
 
This could work, but she’d still eat the damage from the first attacks.

Can she TP while getting stomped to death ?
TP is institanious. The moment Bridget detects a strike or rising pressure, she can warp away to break the rhythm. That immediately resets Combo Star back to zero, letting her counter and repeat the process.
So, she’s admittedly less skilled than someone that couldn’t get around it but we are supposed to believe that she would be able to.
I'm saying that Bridget could figure out how the combo star works mid+fight. If she feels Derieri getting stronger with every hit, she'll react accordingly by formulating a counter to get around it.
Stamina isn’t durability, a 1.8 gap in base would already deal decent damage, stacked with amps the would be great.

Even if Bridget were to counter it wouldn’t do shit ngl there is a 3.6x gap in base higher with darkness.
I know stamina isn't durability, but in a fight it changes things. This is someone who can keep going without exhaustion against someone who can fight for a while but still end up getting worn out or exhausted. Bridget can take hits, adapt, and keep fighting long after Derieri starts burning out.


All of Derieri's stat amps are temporary. Combo star can break easily and be reduced to zero, her rage power only works with strong emotions Derieri would feel, and Bridget can get around the night amp by teleporting herself and Derieri to a different location (which Bridget has done by teleporting others to Terra's domain)


Also on her weakness page, there's the regeneration aspect that says this: "The regeneration used by demons heals injuries but not the "damage" dealt. In practical terms, this has shown to mean that the more a demon regenerates the weaker they get, eventually reaching the point where they no longer have the energy to regenerate at all."

Derieri also can't regenerate her hearts, so if Bridget figure out Derieri is tied to her seven hearts (which she would since it's the same as the Black Tortoise of the North)
 
TP is institanious. The moment Bridget detects a strike or rising pressure, she can warp away to break the rhythm. That immediately resets Combo Star back to zero, letting her counter and repeat the process.
Do you have an in character exemple of Bridget spamming TP while getting beat up ?
I'm saying that Bridget could figure out how the combo star works mid+fight. If she feels Derieri getting stronger with every hit, she'll react accordingly by formulating a counter to get around it.
While getting half knocked out sure
I know stamina isn't durability, but in a fight it changes things. This is someone who can keep going without exhaustion against someone who can fight for a while but still end up getting worn out or exhausted. Bridget can take hits, adapt, and keep fighting long after Derieri starts burning out.
Derieri have great stamina herself and would probably fold Bridget before even starting burning out
All of Derieri's stat amps are temporary. Combo star can break easily and be reduced to zero, her rage power only works with strong emotions Derieri would feel, and Bridget can get around the night amp by teleporting herself and Derieri to a different location (which Bridget has done by teleporting others to Terra's domain)
She didn’t even use it offensively
Also on her weakness page, there's the regeneration aspect that says this: "The regeneration used by demons heals injuries but not the "damage" dealt. In practical terms, this has shown to mean that the more a demon regenerates the weaker they get, eventually reaching the point where they no longer have the energy to regenerate at all."
This just isn’t updated here is the updated version for high ranking demons like Meliodas.

The regeneration used by demons heals injuries but not the "damage" dealt. In practical terms, this has shown to mean that the more a demon regenerates the weaker they get, eventually reaching the point where they no longer have the energy to regenerate at all | Same as before, minus the regeneration weakness

Derieri also can't regenerate her hearts, so if Bridget figure out Derieri is tied to her seven hearts (which she would since it's the same as the Black Tortoise of the North)
She couldn’t even destroy it even if she tried her hardest the 3.6x gap would reduce the damage greatly and darkness would passively protect her
 
Do you have an in character exemple of Bridget spamming TP while getting beat up ?
No, I don’t have an example of her “spamming” teleportation while getting beaten up, because Bridget uses teleportation strategically as a movement option to either get in close to land an attack or dodge attacks as similar characters have done. She doesn't need to spam it; she just needs to time it in the right moment.
While getting half knocked out sure
You're acting as if a single blow from a combo star would be enough to knock Bridget out. Sure, it's lethal when it ramps up with every hit, but it still has a major flaw. One dodge and the combo breaks, one teleport and the combo breaks.
She didn’t even use it offensively
Yes, she has.
This just isn’t updated here is the updated version for high ranking demons like Meliodas.
The "minus the regeneration weakness" seems to apply to her Inudra Form Key. She still has the regen weakness in her base key. Nothing has changed there.
 
No, I don’t have an example of her “spamming” teleportation while getting beaten up, because Bridget uses teleportation strategically as a movement option to either get in close to land an attack or dodge attacks as similar characters have done. She doesn't need to spam it; she just needs to time it in the right moment.

You're acting as if a single blow from a combo star would be enough to knock Bridget out. Sure, it's lethal when it ramps up with every hit, but it still has a major flaw. One dodge and the combo breaks, one teleport and the combo breaks.
Any of her base hits would deal decent damage

Yes, she has.

The "minus the regeneration weakness" seems to apply to her Inudra Form Key. She still has the regen weakness in her base key. Nothing has changed there.
The regeneration weakness is for low ranking demons, those on the lvl of commandments don’t have this issue.

Bridget won’t even be able to do damage, and her kit is trash ngl she isn’t nearly as skilled or powerful as you are trying to describe her.

She also seems to be able to feel emotions, Derrieri have passive fear hax.
 
The regeneration weakness is for low ranking demons, those on the lvl of commandments don’t have this issue.
Show me where this was accepted then regarding the regen weakness.
Bridget won’t even be able to do damage, and her kit is trash ngl she isn’t nearly as skilled or powerful as you are trying to describe her.
There was no need to say this. If you think a character I made and wrote myself is trash keep it your self. There's genuinely no need to leave that kind of remark. If you genuinely think she won't be able to do damage at all, then I'll unrestrict her Dragon Force.
 
If you think a character I made and wrote myself is trash keep it your self.
He was referring to the ability list, not the character herself.

The thing about the main cast of Neon Cavaliers, at least from what I've seen and heard of, is that unlike other verses like Venefica Chronicles, Froggy Universe, Path of Wills, or Dark Hood, the verse is generally carried by its high AP, and lacks a lot of crazy Haxes and abilities to keep up in similar stats matchups as reliably as others. 🤔

That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just something of note.
 
Show me where this was accepted then regarding the regen weakness.
Unfortunately the admin (ByAsura) who made the change erased his account, here is the oldest notification about it
There was no need to say this. If you think a character I made and wrote myself is trash keep it your self. There's genuinely no need to leave that kind of remark. If you genuinely think she won't be able to do damage at all, then I'll unrestrict her Dragon Force.
I’m not talking about Bridget I didn’t even read what you wrote i can’t give an honest review but her kit isn’t really putting any pressure to Derrieri

Her dragon force is a 30x boost iirc

He was referring to the ability list, not the character herself.

The thing about the main cast of Neon Cavaliers, at least from what I've seen and heard of, is that unlike other verses like Venefica Chronicles, Froggy Universe, Path of Wills, or Dark Hood, the verse is generally carried by its high AP, and lacks a lot of crazy Haxes and abilities to keep up in similar stats matchups as reliably as others. 🤔

That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just something of note.
Yeah it lacks good hax but has great physicals
 
He was referring to the ability list, not the character herself.

The thing about the main cast of Neon Cavaliers, at least from what I've seen and heard of, is that unlike other verses like Venefica Chronicles, Froggy Universe, Path of Wills, or Dark Hood, the verse is generally carried by its high AP, and lacks a lot of crazy Haxes and abilities to keep up in similar stats matchups as reliably as others. 🤔

That's not necessarily a bad thing. It's just something of note.
I guess that's fair. Though, calling about trash is a bit iffy imo.
Yeah it lacks good hax but has great physicals
I appreciate this though.
Her dragon force is a 30x boost iirc
Yeah it is.
I fixed the calc using what you said. If you see any inaccuracies or mistakes I have made, let me know, and I'll fix them when I'm able to.
Also, to my surprise, Therefir actually evaluated the calc and said the low-end of your fix looks good so Bridget also has Class P. (I'm not kidding I'm genuinely shocked It got evaluated when it's on FC/OC)
 
I guess that's fair. Though, calling about trash is a bit iffy imo.

I appreciate this though.

Yeah it is.
30 x would make this a one shot
Also, to my surprise, Therefir actually evaluated the calc and said the low-end of your fix looks good so Bridget also has Class P. (I'm not kidding I'm genuinely shocked It got evaluated when it's on FC/OC)
That’s a W ngl
 
Now that Derieri's profile was updated to Class P, I added the LS to the OP. If I have the wrong value for Derieri, let me know and I'll fix it accordingly.
 
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