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Makima vs Yoshikage Kira

Gamecooob said:
no im talking about the guy saying conquest is just "stare = gg"

no im talking about the biohax bleeding stare there, Kira can endure that

Kira very much indeed enjoys blowing women up
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Oh, my mistake then. However for the others, like the signature stare, how is he necessarily enduring that? Judging from how it's displayed, it's just instant incapacitation with the effect of blood drooling out of every hole in his head.

If he enjoys blowing up women, Reze would be his favorite niece
 
we gotta establish this first, does the stuff Makima does require conscious thought, or any thought at all that has to be made?

because the speed advantage for Kira is quite ridiculous, if theres even a sliver of time before Makima forms a thought in her head, its wraps
 
AThe1412 said:
Maybe just read the profile and find the justification for it?
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yeah and it makes no sense to me, its simply showing how they died, the same way Reimi gets a cut on her back or her dog's neck is split even as a ghost
its a common way of showing how the people died
 
Mommyleona said:
yeah and it makes no sense to me, its simply showing how they died, the same way Reimi gets a cut on her back or her dog's neck is split even as a ghost
its a common way of showing how the people died
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1. That only applies to ghosts. Shigechi was a recently deceased spirit.
2. We've seen spirits of other characters before and none of them retained their wounds. Avdol literally got erased from existence with the only things left being his arms, yet Polnareff saw his spirit perfectly intact.
3. How do you explain why only Reimi and her dog, the only victims who didn't die from Killer Queen, came back as ghosts while everyone else didn't?
 
AThe1412 said:
3. How do you explain why only Reimi and her dog, the only victims who didn't die from Killer Queen, came back as ghosts while everyone else didn't?
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Plot armor?

Jk

What happened when I was gone, did Chariot come and explained finally how Kira stomps?
 
Robo432343 said:
are you sure we're looking at the same thing
send the scan
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This is no different from this to me
AThe1412 said:
1. That only applies to ghosts. Shigechi was a recently deceased spirit
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which both are ghosts and all of them still fly into heaven
AThe1412 said:
3. How do you explain why only Reimi and her dog, the only victims who didn't die from Killer Queen, came back as ghosts while everyone else didn't?
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How do you explain literally any other person dying in Morioh in a time period of decades yet none of them are shown to be ghosts with Reimi

Tho if its accepted there's nothing that can be done rn
 
Robo432343 said:
this is too hard for kira to win his range is only 2m
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"However, during fights, due her damage transference contract, Makima generally does not care nor try to avoid any incoming attacks no matter what threat it poses to her."

Makima sees him as a normal dude, Kira can just approach and blow her up. She's also not keeping up with a Relativistic stand
 
Mommyleona said:
This is no different from this to me

which both are ghosts and all of them still fly into heaven

How do you explain literally any other person dying in Morioh in a time period of decades yet none of them are shown to be ghosts with Reimi

Tho if its accepted there's nothing that can be done rn
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Did they died from killers?
Because Reimi is there for the death on the hands of a Killer

Hmmm, hands~
 
Hawktaro said:
"However, during fights, due her damage transference contract, Makima generally does not care nor try to avoid any incoming attacks no matter what threat it poses to her."

Makima sees him as a normal dude, Kira can just approach and blow her up. She's also not keeping up with a Relativistic stand
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She wouldn't let him hit her, I can't emphasize enough that the statement needs to be removed from her profile, so I'm just gonna leave this here.
I can't stress enough how much the argument that Makima "lets attacks hit her" or the general consensus around it needs to be urgently removed from her profile. In the first scan you sent, Makima clearly had hundreds of devil hunters linked to her control chains for more direct and instant damage transfer while still dodging Pochita's attacks in that same panel. In the second scan, it is clearly shown that Makima let the Gun Devil hit her to create a halo with her brain tissue and open a portal for a mass ability activation against the Gun Devil. That was a pre-planned action, not her "letting herself get hit." Every time Makima takes damage from guns or firepower, it is part of a calculated plan or deception. The moment she realizes she no longer needs to take on that pressure, she stops.
 
Mommyleona said:
There was Angelo who killed lots of people too
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At the age of 12, Angelo was convicted for robbery and ****, and since then spent 20 years in prison. He became known as one of the biggest criminals in Japan


Two things: Plot hole or is dying on morioh and having a regret or something, because Josuke's grandfather died on morioh and we are not seeing his ghost thanks to Angelo

Or Dying to Kira without Killer queen is so horrible that you becomes a ghost, also, her parents died too, no ghost parents either, but the dog in fact is a ghost too
 
GunshyFever said:
She wouldn't let him hit her, I can't emphasize enough that the statement needs to be removed from her profile, so I'm just gonna leave this here.
I can't stress enough how much the argument that Makima "lets attacks hit her" or the general consensus around it needs to be urgently removed from her profile. In the first scan you sent, Makima clearly had hundreds of devil hunters linked to her control chains for more direct and instant damage transfer while still dodging Pochita's attacks in that same panel. In the second scan, it is clearly shown that Makima let the Gun Devil hit her to create a halo with her brain tissue and open a portal for a mass ability activation against the Gun Devil. That was a pre-planned action, not her "letting herself get hit." Every time Makima takes damage from guns or firepower, it is part of a calculated plan or deception. The moment she realizes she no longer needs to take on that pressure, she stops.
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Well, she cant regenerate from soul erasure, gets blitzed and one-shotted if Kira or Killer Queen touches her. Idk what Makima can do here.
 
Specify the distance Robo. If it's longer than 2 meters Kira dies, if it's shorter Makima dies.
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Or Dying to Kira without Killer queen is so horrible that you becomes a ghost, also, her parents died too, no ghost parents either, but the dog in fact is a ghost too
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or Araki just doesnt care about that and is writing it this way for the plot/drama
 
Robo432343 said:
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The power over the life and death of 2 fictional characters is overwhelming.
 
Robo432343 said:
ok then
how far is killer queen's range actually
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His base range is 2 meters, but Stands can go far far away, as shown in the anime (Star Platinum taking stuff for Jotaro, for example)

"A Stand's range and accuracy are inversely proportional; the further the Stand moves away from its firing range, the weaker and less subtle it becomes. This principle is applied to almost all Stands. Furthermore, this can be construed more specifically as an "effective firing range", as a Stand will only gradually lose effectiveness the further it deviates from its firing range, rather than just relinquish immediately. The Stand's range is effectively just the range where it can optimally perform, though this can notably fluctuate depending on the emotional state of the user."
 
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Hawktaro said:
bruh, looking at the image again, its very close range, basically a stomp for kira. Massively Hypersonic vs Relativistic, he just touches her and its over lol
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Yeah and to do that he needs to look at Makima
Looking at Makima = death
 
Hawktaro said:
His base range is 2 meters, but Stands can go far far away, as shown in the anime (Star Platinum taking stuff for Jotaro, for example)
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KQ will no longer be relativistic after 2m, it has no speed rating for "outside effective range" which makes it unknown, and therefore below Makima who actually has a speed rating. It won't reach Makima in time. She just APstomps.
 

Hawktaro said:
bruh, looking at the image again, its very close range, basically a stomp for kira. Massively Hypersonic vs Relativistic, he just touches her and its over lol
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Speed is equalized, so Makima is normal human speed while killer queen is relativistic, and reactions are not equalized, so yoshi is also relativistic
 
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