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People are gonna think we lurk on Reddit more than here at this rate
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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TRAITOR!
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We should, yeah.I am NOT losing this again! Anyone with a Reddit account, drop an upvote so that we may finally wipe out the Koopa Troop!https://www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/s/LC7hBRQ944
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Yeah, should be straight up 2-A now
TheStinkeer
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Quick question, since the Chaos Emeralds had half the power to slowly merge Sonic and Blaze's dimensions and lead to the collapse of both universes and their time, would that be an actual AP feat that can be applied to super-tier characters AP and assumingly striking strength or would it just be a lifting strength feat? I know scaling here accepts it and I'm leaning more towards the former but I'd like to get other opinions on it in case there's some nuance I missed
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We do use it for the baseline of a Super Form's AP, but for whatever reason we don't apply the feat to the baseline of their LS, which is confusing to say the least, im hoping it's just an oversight.
TheStinkeer
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It prolly is
Also thinking on it more I do think it can likely be an AP thing as literally merging smth like that is different from just lifting
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Not to mention both sets should probably scale to 0.5x 12 Universes from the feat rather than straight up 12 Universes, that would imply there being only 1 set for the feat wouldn't make a difference.
TheStinkeer
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wouldn't it be a low 2-C feat regardless of Prime's shatterverse since time is being messed up as well due to all the times space-time is mentioned? Or did I misinterpret that?
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It's 2-C despite Prime because it involves two universes.
TheStinkeer
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Yes but the feat is being done via. the power of both the Chaos Emeralds and Sol Emeralds, so I just split it in half
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By our standards, 12 Space-Times divided by 2 is 0.5x 12 Space-Times rather than 6. If we could divide that value that way, multipliers can also change that value, for example:
Our standards = 128 x 12 Universes = 128x 12 Universes
If distance between universes is irrelevant or something like that = 128 x 12 Universes = 1536 Universes
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I don’t care how long it takes, the Koopa Troop will fall! Lend me your upvotes! https://www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/s/1KwETfC7II
(I know this is probably getting annoying, but I swear, after this suggestion passes I’m retiring from the chessboard
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(I know this is probably getting annoying, but I swear, after this suggestion passes I’m retiring from the chessboard
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Fezzih_007
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Hmmm, but the funeral post sound interessingI don’t care how long it takes, the Koopa Troop will fall! Lend me your upvotes! https://www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/s/1KwETfC7II
(I know this is probably getting annoying, but I swear, after this suggestion passes I’m retiring from the chessboard
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He’s trying to make like 5 moves in one turnHmmm, but the funeral post sound interessing
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TheStinkeer
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happy halloween!!! wait wdym its the 4th of november
TheStinkeer
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Genuinely the Egg Wizard is SO clutch cause I don't think there's much counter/controversy to it unlike Emerl, Solaris, etc.
The only counters I can think of would be that the PoTS isn't necessarily destruction and more creation/sustaining, but it's beyond the Chaos and Sol Emeralds with it literally causing the Egg Wizard's power to rise to levels Eggman never knew of. (though he doesn't say it's more power than he imagined was possible, that's an English localization thing) and the planet buster laser which is more of an AoE thing bc Sonic can physically reflect the Egg Wizard's attacks which can damage the Egg Wizard despite having that much power, along with Blaze being able to overpower the blasts with a charged blast.
EDIT: There's also Marine stunning it but I'm ngl that doesn't even make sense in the most downplayed interpretation of the verse
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Marine is the BIG of the Sol Dimension/OP fr frGenuinely the Egg Wizard is SO clutch cause I don't think there's much counter/controversy to it unlike Emerl, Solaris, etc.
The only counters I can think of would be that the PoTS isn't necessarily destruction and more creation/sustaining, but it's beyond the Chaos and Sol Emeralds with it literally causing the Egg Wizard's power to rise to levels Eggman never knew of. (though he doesn't say it's more power than he imagined was possible, that's an English localization thing) and the planet buster laser which is more of an AoE thing bc Sonic can physically reflect the Egg Wizard's attacks which can damage the Egg Wizard despite having that much power, along with Blaze being able to overpower the blasts with a charged blast.
EDIT: There's also Marine stunning it but I'm ngl that doesn't even make sense in the most downplayed interpretation of the verse
ShakeResounding
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The wiki's stance on 2-C is that no amount of division can lower your universe count and no amount of multiplication can increase your universe count. It just attributes to the scaling chain within the universe count.
Dragon Ball Super is the Prime example; no matter how ludicrous the scaling chains, they're stuck at 6 Universes and can never jump to 7. Same here; our feat can never be divided in half.
Funny fact, there was a point where "Half 2-C" was a thing (rated as "At least Low 2-C") that was a rarity. Both Dragon Ball + Sonic sat here, Sonic because of this very feat, until site standards changed to give "Half 2-C" the axe. And that's part of why 2-C is the way it is now.
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TheStinkeer
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yea true, I was just wanting to put it at half as a sort of "lowball" type thing if that makes sense
MysticMania
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That's cool to learn!
TheStinkeer
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stupid thing i made in paint.net a bit ago, lowkey i'd like to draw it lmao
btw egg wizard reddit post with some arguments for and against Sonic and Blaze scaling if anyone wants to see, was trying to get outside opinions on it
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So yeah, the Storybook dimensions do exist within the Archie multiverse (literally the purpose of Another Time, Another Place) so reinstate my Text hax you swindlers
TheStinkeer
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I made a doc abt how Time Eater consuming dimensional energy = erasure and it led to me making this beautiful visualizer of Time Eater at an all-you-can-eat buffet.
(The conclusion I arrived to is that Time Eater's AoE attack is another way for it to put space-time in its mouth to eat, consume, which erases the dimensional energy AKA space-time, then it is put into White Space, if that makes sense. If it doesn't, blame Generations as it isn't consistent with itself either)
(The conclusion I arrived to is that Time Eater's AoE attack is another way for it to put space-time in its mouth to eat, consume, which erases the dimensional energy AKA space-time, then it is put into White Space, if that makes sense. If it doesn't, blame Generations as it isn't consistent with itself either)
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Should put it and Solaris in an eating contest. Why only eat dimensions for lunch when you can have as many as you want?I made a doc abt how Time Eater consuming dimensional energy = erasure and it led to me making this beautiful visualizer of Time Eater at an all-you-can-eat buffet.
(The conclusion I arrived to is that Time Eater's AoE attack is another way for it to put space-time in its mouth to eat, consume, which erases the dimensional energy AKA space-time, then it is put into White Space, if that makes sense. If it doesn't, blame Generations as it isn't consistent with itself either)
TheStinkeer
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Ngl in an eating contest it'd be pretty close bc of Time Eater's range nerf in SXSG with the "that thing keeps jumping back and forth through time!" which causes issue with ALL space-time erasure. But you can see things such as stars in the zones TE erased and Solaris has already absorbed dimensions, though it's said he would only engulf timelines which could be absorbing but yk. That being said it becomes much more in Time Eater's favor if the Hypertimeline is considered which possibly lets Time Eater's "erase all space-time" statements not be nerfed.
So uhh I'll take team Time Eater in the eating contest for now
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This page confuses me, btw. There's no scan for Tails' intelligence stat. In fact, wasn't Tails portrayed as an incompetent for basically most of the Fleetway Comics? Never seen him build anything.
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Miles "Tails" Prower is a character that appears in the Sonic: The Comic. He is a two-tailed fox and close friend of Sonic the Hedgehog. As in other continuities, his two tails allow him to fly. Tier: Low 5-B Name: Miles "Tails" Prower, "Pixel-Brain" (by Sonic) Origin: Sonic the Hedgehog (STC...
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MysticMania
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They're so happy and pleased.I made a doc abt how Time Eater consuming dimensional energy = erasure and it led to me making this beautiful visualizer of Time Eater at an all-you-can-eat buffet.
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OH MY GOD IS THAT MY GOATI made a doc abt how Time Eater consuming dimensional energy = erasure and it led to me making this beautiful visualizer of Time Eater at an all-you-can-eat buffet.
(The conclusion I arrived to is that Time Eater's AoE attack is another way for it to put space-time in its mouth to eat, consume, which erases the dimensional energy AKA space-time, then it is put into White Space, if that makes sense. If it doesn't, blame Generations as it isn't consistent with itself either)
Anywho, on the bolded part, I unironically thought most of the Hypertimeline stuff I agreed with because of how just kinda... weird and oxymoronic White Space is, like, idk what happened with it but everytime I think about it my head kinda just implodes LMAO
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Also, new sonic game dropped, kinda ehh but I'm looking into it for curiousities sake lalo
It may/may not have ungodly demonic levels of upscaling, or it might be a new source for renders
It may/may not have ungodly demonic levels of upscaling, or it might be a new source for renders
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What sort of upscaaling we talking about?
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trust the process...
though i dont think any fruitful endeavors would come out of it
though i dont think any fruitful endeavors would come out of it
MysticMania
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Is it Sonic Rumble by chance?
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yes!
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Well its not a canon game so it doesn't mean much plus they are replicas created by eggman so at best it's good to have for profiles as a side game which would get it solid tier 8 or 7
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yikes.
I guess I'll play it through to see if I can make profiles for it, shouldn't take forever right?
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