Kai Chisaki (Overhaul) Vs Ken Kaneki THE FINALE (My Hero Academia Vs Tokyo Ghoul) [16-27-0]

[Arkansalter2]

To understand why the MHA community is a laughingstock, just remember the fact that they brought two matches between Kaneki and MHA to Grace and were going to add them, but when Kaneki started winning the vote, they called both matches unfair and removed him.

My man.
In the first thread overhaul won fair and square.
It was the TG supps that said it was a stomp for overhaul, even though for 3 pages straight, Castor said it wasn't a stomp.
Now this thread is here. Kaneki was given an unfair advantage and all because folks lied to not have their favorite character have a loss.

 

[Robo432343]

You would never have touched this match if Chisaki had won.

because kaneki literally has prior knowledge on top of the ap, LS, his own ANPR and enhanced senses...lmao?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

You would never have touched this match if Chisaki had won.
Chisaki also has the ability to learn about Kaneki's abilities and can still kill him with a touch. You're using your powers unfairly.

False allegations and bashing other fanbases in order to avoid explaining why you also lied to staff to remove an L. Cool.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

False allegations and bashing other fanbases in order to avoid explaining why you also lied to staff to remove an L. Cool.

p-pochita lied?

 

[Mommyleona]

It was the TG supps that said it was a stomp for overhaul, even though for 3 pages straight, Castor said it wasn't a stomp.

how does it matter what cas said, if supps think its a stomp even though they are the ones supporting ken?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

how does it matter what cas said, if supps think its a stomp even though they are the ones supporting ken?

This is absurd. Do I have to be on the verse supporters page to have my statements validated? Are any supporters allowed to lie to staff in order to get their character loss removed? Funny because all the mha supporters directed insults would make no sense since I’m not on the mha supporter list despite me making numerous mha matchups and crts.

Also the same exact arguments explaining why Kaneki wins is the same exact arguments I used to explain why Kaneki doesn’t get stomped in the original match. THE SAME EXACT ARGUMENTS. The same arguments that were labeled as NONSENSE and THEORETICAL ABILITIES in order to paint Kaneki as helpless. Does that make me a bigger Kaneki supporter now?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Hmm Leona has a point

Again, does my point only become validated if I add myself to the supporter list? Why do my arguments keep getting ignored when the same exact arguments I stated were used here by Kaneki supporters.

 

[Mommyleona]

Do I have to be on the verse supporters page to have my statements validated?

No, but why does what you say go over multiple other people saying its a stomp??? if supporters generally agree the match is a stomp, isnt it only logical its a stomp?

Are any supporters allowed to lie to staff in order to get their character loss removed?

where's a lie?

Also the same exact arguments explaining why Kaneki wins is the same exact arguments I used to explain why Kaneki doesn’t get stomped in the original match. THE SAME EXACT ARGUMENTS.

Not gonna go through both threads atp, i'd like to hear what other people have to say, im NEUTRAL on this btw, dont lash out on me

The same arguments that were labeled as NONSENSE and THEORETICAL ABILITIES in order to paint Kaneki as helpless. Does that make me a bigger Kaneki supporter now?

were they labeled as such by the same people? or were those different people?

 

[Shadowslash125]

Ngl, it be best if everyone just lays down what has been thrown around and what has been agreed/contested. This might just be a big ol case of misunderstanding.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

No, but why does what you say go over multiple other people saying its a stomp??? if supporters generally agree the match is a stomp, isnt it only logical its a stomp?

Not unless the same exact arguments used for why Kaneki wins here is the same exact arguments I used to explain why it wasnt a stomp and simply disregarded as a mockery, nonsense, theoretical abilities, and a stomp for Kaneki. Even then, this clearly isnt applied to all supporters when mha supporters got so much crap for contending Deku Vs Kafka as a stomp against Deku when Deku was over 14x slower getting blitzed stomped.

where's a lie?

Read rule violation report

Not gonna go through both threads atp, i'd like to hear what other people have to say, im NEUTRAL on this btw, dont lash out on me

were they labeled as such by the same people? or were those different people?

Same people

 

[Robo432343]

im going to report @CastoriceTheFifth for calling the people who genuinely believe kaneki gets stomped 'liars' and being biased towards the vote count (vote manipulation is a very powerful ability)

hah take that castorice

 

[Mommyleona]

Not unless the same exact arguments used for why Kaneki wins here is the same exact arguments I used to explain why it wasnt a stomp and simply disregarded as a mockery, nonsense, theoretical abilities, and a stomp for Kaneki.

I mean from checking it out a bit, are you saying nothing changed between 2 matches? Doesnt it mean this one is more valid since more people voted and more people got to debate/or both matches are valid?

Read rule violation report

i did but it doesnt say what lie

Same people

that's sus then

 

[Therefir]

No, but why does what you say go over multiple other people saying its a stomp??? if supporters generally agree the match is a stomp, isnt it only logical its a stomp?

If their arguments about it being a stomp are shit, then it doesn’t matter how many supporters say it, lmao, I haven’t seen a single good argument explaining exactly why it would be a stomp.

Stomp Guide for Dummies​

1. Does either character have a passive ability that instantly disables or defeats the other, leaving no chance to react?
→ No

2. Does either character possess an unavoidable ability or attack that cannot be dodged regardless of the opponent's skill?
→ No

4. Can one character tank everything the other can do while one-shotting in return?
→ No

5. Do both characters have reliable ways to harm or defeat each other through their own abilities?
→ Yes

6. Is this a stomp?
→ No.

 

[Mommyleona]

Can one character tank everything the other can do while one-shotting in return?

i mean from what Nik said, Kaneki cant do any lasting damage on Chisaki, while Chisaki can one shot Ken in return, when the latter even tries to do any damage

IMO it sounds like a stomp

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I mean from checking it out a bit, are you saying nothing changed between 2 matches? Doesnt it mean this one is more valid since more people voted and more people got to debate/or both matches are valid?

i did but it doesnt say what lie

that's sus then

A lot of the stomp arguments are like Kaneki getting stomped by the Quirk erasing bullet or low 7-b bullets, or Overhaul having 4 arms and can regen.

Which is crazy because I countered this in the original match by saying Kaneki has Instinctive Reaction, limited resistance to analytical prediction, 4 Kagune tentacles, perception amplification, senses, etc. But somehow these are just theoretical abilities and he still gets stomped.

i mean from what Nik said, Kaneki cant do any lasting damage on Chisaki, while Chisaki can one shot Ken in return, when the latter even tries to do any damage

IMO it sounds like a stomp

And the same arguments for why Kaneki wins this is the same ones as why Kaneki doesn’t get stomped in the first match.

Brsokie one of the win cons for Kaneki used here is to rip off Overhaul’s limbs/head or crush them with his Class G lifting strength. Something I argued in the old match.

 

[Mommyleona]

wait
is this match also a stomp too? the giving kaneki prior knowledge thing

no?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

wait
is this match also a stomp too? the giving kaneki prior knowledge thing

Idk but I’m like 80% sure Post Rose Kaneki Vs Overhaul was a stomp

 

[Mommyleona]

A lot of the stomp arguments are like Kaneki getting stomped by the Quirk erasing bullet or low 7-b bullets, or Overhaul having 4 arms and can regen.

Which is crazy because I countered this in the original match by saying Kaneki has Instinctive Reaction, limited resistance to analytical prediction, 4 Kagune tentacles, perception amplification, senses, etc

well yeah those arent a stomp, chisaki's decon is what im considering

And the same arguments for why Kaneki wins this is the same ones as why Kaneki doesn’t get stomped in the first match.

i mean its a bit different with prior knowledge, ie he might have no chance without it, but could with it
I'll just wait for Nik to comment

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

well yeah those arent a stomp, chisaki's decon is what im considering

i mean its a bit different with prior knowledge, ie he might have no chance without it, but could with it
I'll just wait for Nik to comment

 

[Therefir]

i mean from what Nik said, Kaneki cant do any lasting damage on Chisaki, while Chisaki can one shot Ken in return, when the latter even tries to do any damage

IMO it sounds like a stomp

That's hilariously funny considering Overhaul can be:

• Knocked out cold, just like Deku was planning to do.
• Have his arms disabled—breaking them would already seriously impede his Quirk, just like Mirio did.
• Simply be prevented from healing himself, as Deku did by relentlessly keeping up the pressure.

Once again, I ask where this stomp reasoning comes from. To me, it seems like nothing more than a pathetic excuse to not add Overhaul's victory and justify an unfair advantage of knowledge in a completely different thread.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

it’s weird how him not having prior knowledge of the quirk erasing bullet doesn’t make this match considered a stomp because “he will never get hit by the bullet” while Kaneki will somehow gladly shake overhaul’s hand???

 

[Mommyleona]

That's hilariously funny considering Overhaul can be:

• Knocked out cold, just like Deku was planning to do.
• Have his arms disabled—breaking them would already seriously impede his Quirk, just like Mirio did.
• Simply be prevented from healing himself, as Deku did by relentlessly keeping up the pressure.

Alright

justify an unfair advantage of knowledge

How is that an "unfair advantage", giving some prior knowledge to characters isnt unfair, just can be listed as a different match

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

How is that an "unfair advantage", giving some prior knowledge to characters isnt unfair, just can be listed as a different match

Just wanna say the supporters kept trying to explain why the original matchup should get deleted in favor of listing an entirely different Kaneki’s matchup where he skill stomps and is “resistant to Decon” but was perfectly fine listing 2 wins against Overhaul because he didn’t lose btw.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

i have an idea
maybe we should just delete all the kaneki vs overhaul matchups and restart

We are not restarting broskie

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

How is that an "unfair advantage", giving some prior knowledge to characters isnt unfair, just can be listed as a different match

Btw the gaslighting was so immaculate from them that even neutral vswiki users believed Kaneki doesnt even have win cons with prior knowledge. He always had a win con and its the same win cons I argued in the first match being used here

 

[Doggo]

Atp both should hug each other and settle their differences

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

I only wish Castorice can control her stress

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I only wish Castorice can control her stress

Broskie it doesn't help when almost everything I said gets ignored till now when @Therefir caught onto it

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Broskie it doesn't help when almost everything I said gets ignored till now when @Therefir caught onto it

I don't understand the meaning of Broskie

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I don't understand the meaning of Broskie

I should make my own urban dictionary for it

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

I should make my own urban dictionary for it

Awirilipita then

 

[Shadowslash125]

sweats in Geats

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

sweats in Geats

Make Geats Vs Kaneki next lol

 

[Shadowslash125]

Make Geats Vs Kaneki next lol

My man already shut it down (I legitimately had plans), so I genuinely can't. (I guess?)
No worries, there are other matches to behold.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

My man already shut it down (I legitimately had plans), so I genuinely can't. (I guess?)
No worries, there are other matches to behold.

Wym shut it down?

 

[Shadowslash125]

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

My bro is done having to debate every Kaneki matchup. Let him rest

 

[Shadowslash125]

Believe me, every other supporter I know wanted me to make Buffa vs Kaneki.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Why tf did Deku gets Geats and Kaneki gets the easier guy

 

[Shadowslash125]

My bro is done having to debate every Kaneki matchup. Let him rest

True true.

Why tf did Deku gets Geats and Kaneki gets the easier guy

It's ironic that Geats, despite being the most skilled in his series, is actually the least haxxiest of the four Geats Riders. Trust me when I say this, Geats' standard ability is the lowest in the hax.