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No. Several of them did.
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One Piece: Elbaph Profiles (Sandbox Collaborative)
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Oimo and Kashii assisted against Nusjuro and some other giants were fighting Nusjuro before they arrived. Three unnamed members blocked Mars' laser/fire breath attack with their shields.
They clearly weren't on the level of the Gorosei but they weren't powerless either, not sure how you'd choose to rate that though.
They clearly weren't on the level of the Gorosei but they weren't powerless either, not sure how you'd choose to rate that though.
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I'd consider not fighting back to be without issue. This does not entail Gaban making himself less durable
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Gaban isn't like Big Mom or Kaido who are near invulnerable bodies even without using Haki, he its more like Garp, Oden and Whitebeard where weaker attacks can injure them if they were either caught off guard or where in a position where they couldn't defend themselves.
An example which could be somewhat apply would be Sanji VS Black Maria where she could easily harm Sanji as he was forced to not use Armament Haki because if he did she would be the one who got hurt instead which he couldn't allow him due of his morals.
Another example its Luffy and Zoro when facing Bellamy for the 1st time in Jaya, as despite be far stronger than him we see that him and his crew could actually make them bleed, yet we know that isn't a valid feat as the two allowed the other to harm them.
Another another example its when Shanks lost his arm to the Sea King because he was focus on protecting Luffy rather than defend himself, and to remind you this its same Sea King who would end up be oneshotted by Early East Blue Luffy, while this Shanks was already capable to use Haki and had clashed with Dracule in a battle where even Whitebeard was impressed.
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I don't really think that's true. All Gaban had to do was stop attacking, not completely lower his defenses like Sanji did. It's still a feat for Gunko to critically injure him like that.
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Gunzo would have notice/sense it if he try to defend himself from her attack and would have kill his son as retaliation, and Gaban was aware of that.
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At the very least it does look like Gaban wasn't using Haki to defend himself.
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Regardless, Gaban should still be durable without Haki.
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What? Why would Gunko kill Colon because Gaban braced himself for the hit?
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Because then Gunko would know that he wasn't comply to her demand and was try to screw her over.
And as Gaban's Future Sight show she would have then killed Colon before Gaban could stop her.
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Dragon didn't necessarely or directly state that any Holy Knights are in general stronger than any CP0, one thing its have them scale to someone like Guernika as feats wise they seen comparable (as Guernika could fight Izou who should be stronger than Jinbe while Gunko could defeat both Usopp, Chopper, Nami, Brook and Jinbe).
However its another story its have them relative to Rob Lucci, who could actually put a good fight against Post Wano Zoro performing better than even King, which its a better than what Sommers or Gunko had demostrated until now.
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are you serious...?
Zoro first time being serious with 3 swords and armament haki could one shot awakened Lucci, the same one who couldn't even land a single hit while Zoro stood in place... Like... hmm? Are you actually being fr?
Not gonna "derail" this thread tho, it doesn't really matter to the actual discussion
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For Shamrock why on the range section his haki range based on Gaban sensing him? Fews more like a range feat for Gabans sensing him since I'm not sure he presence was felt by anyone else by that point. On Gunko there is also no justification for her thousands os Kilometers for the arrows.
Perfect files outside this 2 minor nitpicks.
Perfect files outside this 2 minor nitpicks.
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The Haki that is released when using the Abyss is likely Conqueror's Haki
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I think until we get more information on how the Abyss works, we shouldn't classify that as the users having Conqueror's Haki. For all we know that could be bursts of Imu's own Haki being released when they use the Abyss.
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I mean sure, but regeneration is Imu's power not really theirs. It should still be noted, even if the Haki is not theirs.
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I told yall bout that pure haki lightning offsite, not all lightning is hao. The same individuals being knocked out from haoshoku were stagnant when abyss lightning popped up, unless yall think random marines can take gorosei hao
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Loki using the hammer seems to be with adv con haki tho, before the lightning strike came down
So that should be added to him for now, unless they contradict that in the future with it not being con haki or from Loki or something
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that isn't advanced hao it ain't drawn the same it's just black lightning from the hammer that's specific to loki
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... Uhh hmm?
If it's something new that we don't know about, that's still just an assumption... Black lightning being worn has always been adv con haki, unless proven that it's different, we can't assume that it is
Probably because it's a different color Hao... Like yellow and black or something
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it's blatantly not drawn the same
haki lightning is black lightning with a white outline in a specific lightning bolt shape
this just looks like a weird black wisp coming off
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it's literally drawn the same... The only difference being added lighter color on top
?I mean I don't really care to be honest but I feel like the approach that it's instead something else that we know nothing about makes no sense
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You still can't ignore how whenever the Abyss is used, "abnormal Haki" is mentioned and sensed by every Kenbun user. The Haki sensed is obviously not Buso or Kenbun.
Jinbe described St. Mars' Hao Haki the same way Lucci and Zoro described the Haki that was exuded when the Abyss pentagrams were used.
The Navy onlookers said that the island was pulsating in the same way (before he got knocked out when Warcury's directed shout reached him).
The Holy Knights had to conceal the Haki that releases when the Abyss is used, but Gaban could still sense it.
Whether or not the Haki belongs specifically to them or if it comes from Imu is a different question, but we can't just not list it.
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Until we get more information about it, it's fair not to list it.
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Doll and Red King are the most deserving ones given their actual feats
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Red King and feats in the same sentence.
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He one-shot a Sea King
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I think you mean a Sea-Beast Weapon.
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Shhhhh, let the slander persist.Ohh him, and he easily dodged lasers midair and is most likely capable of defeating Pacifistas
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We can list it as haki. We don't need to list it as haoshoku haki. Not all weird haki is conquerors.
Especially when we see each time the abyss is used, they address it as the individual's haki.
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