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Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

AstraphelNoctis4 said:
He meant infinite size axis, not infinite number
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Astral_Trinity439 said:
Infinite as in one that is significant in size, not infinitely many. "infinite Imaginary Number Space".
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I understood the implication. My question remains.
Astral_Trinity439 said:
If we're going by the most simple one that's easy to argue and defend, that'll be 1-C (high tiers) with 1-A hax (everyone) with full 1-A for Veldanava.
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I can potentially see 1-A Veldanavabut what about the 1-A hax?
 
Community_Gamer said:
I understood the implication. My question remains.

I can potentially see 1-A Veldanavabut what about the 1-A hax?
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1-A Veldanava is itself because he created the laws of the world.
The laws of the world are 1-A, and as all skills and magic work on 1-A as designed by Veldanava himself, they get 1-A Smurf nature
 
AlexSamDen said:
You sure that things like Weather Manipulation should be there?
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I agree that some things shouldn't be there, like weather manipulation.

We can't automatically give resistances to every single effect done by a unique skill, as the forms of effects vary greatly, sometimes in ways that don't care for ultimate skill users.
 
AlexSamDen said:
You sure that things like Weather Manipulation should be there?
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Ultimate Skill users should have stuff like Natural Element Nullification/Resistance so yes.

Plus pretty sure it was said somewhere that Ranga infused his Ultimate skill with his weather manip at some point to harm a US user. The reverse of that statement is also this plausible.
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
Ultimate Skill users should have stuff like Natural Element Nullification/Resistance so yes.

Plus pretty sure it was said somewhere that Ranga infused his Ultimate skill with his weather manip at some point to harm a US user. The reverse of that statement is also this plausible.
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Well that's kinda different, they need this to be harmed by tthe effects of it, but they don't prevent the change of weather itself
 
Astral_Trinity439 said:
Ultimate Skill users should have stuff like Natural Element Nullification/Resistance so yes.

Plus pretty sure it was said somewhere that Ranga infused his Ultimate skill with his weather manip at some point to harm a US user. The reverse of that statement is also this plausible.
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But I feel like that doesn't fall under weather manipulation resistance. They resist the lighting thrown at them, that came from the storm cloud created by weather manipulation, but them being there does not negate the ability of others to manipulate the weather.
 
AlexSamDen said:
Well that's kinda different, they need this to be harmed by tthe effects of it, but they don't prevent the change of weather itself
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I assume Weather Manipulation includes the effect itself as well, though.
Loetkolben16 said:
But I feel like that doesn't fall under weather manipulation resistance. They resist the lighting thrown at them, that came from the storm cloud created by weather manipulation, but them being there does not negate the ability of others to manipulate the weather.
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Well I suppose that explanation makes more sense.
I guess the storm itself would be counted as Air Manipulation or something.
 
I did this
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Hello everyone, this is the first proposal I’m making on this wiki. I hope I haven’t made any mistakes if I did, I apologize. I also apologize in advance for any possible language errors, as this isn’t my native language. This is a proposal to modify Tensura’s speed; all the arguments are in the...
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(I'm new, so I made a few small mistakes; the calculations have not been accepted/verified by the wiki members; I submitted the request a few hours ago).
 
Does anyone have the statement on hand from volume 22 about magicules slowing stuff down?
@Astral_Trinity439 iirc I think you brought it up?

@AlexSamDen
Pretty sure the places they live in the Otherworld also kinda resemble planets and the just fly from one to the other there
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Alright then yeah that's a good argument.



Pretty sure we're not? From the Universe page
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I'm pretty sure it was mentioned we'd have to prove said universes are our size in the downgrade threads. It was like the main argument about why stuff like Zalario destroying dimensions and Velgrynd's universal creation feats don't count as universal (even ignoring the solar system thing).
Ftr I'm totally down for counterarguments, just mentioning this would absolutely come up so may as well discuss it





In what sense?
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I was agreeing with you.
 
Violatas said:
Does anyone have the statement on hand from volume 22 about magicules slowing stuff down?
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Will go search for it
Violatas said:
I'm pretty sure it was mentioned we'd have to prove said universes are our size in the downgrade threads.
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No, the downgrade said that not all worlds might be universe-sized and we didn't have all the stuff translated to argue that they are generally called such, so no.
Violatas said:
It was like the main argument about why stuff like Zalario destroying dimensions and Velgrynd's universal creation feats don't count as universal (even ignoring the solar system thing).
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Again, it was another thing. Kinda why we have "Varies, up to Low 2-C" in our cosmology page rn (also, when did Velgrynd create a universe?)
Violatas said:
I was agreeing with you.
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Sorry, didn't really understand
 
Also, just in case searched for the planet-like thingies in Otherworld. Not called like that, but the concept stays the same
In the Otherworld, there is no such thing as gravity. It is similar to outer space in that there is no concept of earth and sky. There are only objects made of condensed magicules scattered throughout the empty space. Such objects were as strong as magisteel, and generated powerful gravitational forces, so they were processed to be used as ‘bases’. The former angels, the Phantoms, used such bases to live a life similar to one in the Cardinal World, so as not to forget their lives in a gravitational field.
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AlexSamDen said:
No, the downgrade said that not all worlds might be universe-sized and we didn't have all the stuff translated to argue that they are generally called such, so no.

Again, it was another thing. Kinda why we have "Varies, up to Low 2-C" in our cosmology page rn (also, when did Velgrynd create a universe?)
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I remember Hydra bringing it up here
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TenSura LN Major Misleading Revision - Part 3 (Revised)

Should add that Milim had trouble destroying that big tree which was protected by Veldanavas power.
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Also, aren't those points just pretty much agreeing with what I said about how (currently) not all "universes/worlds" are considered like our IRL in size. Some are and some aren't. We also had a whole debate where we had to prove Cardinal World is like our size.
@PrimeHydra64 did a good job there 👏
 
Violatas said:
Also, aren't those points just pretty much agreeing with what I said about how (currently) not all "universes/worlds" are considered like our IRL in size. Some are and some aren't. We also had a whole debate where we had to prove
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The argument from Elde was that not every world is called a universe, only some of them are called as such and we have no reason to scale one to the other. Plus literally in Hydra's TL it addresses it as an alternate world, so no universe-lile context here
 
AlexSamDen said:
The argument from Elde was that not every world is called a universe, only some of them are called as such and we have no reason to scale one to the other.
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I'm kinda confused on what you're getting at here ngl because Worlds are "universes" (outside of when it can just mean planet). But you know what, if Elde sees this he can just comment if he was arguing not all "universes" are our size or not

Also you didn't address this part
Violatas said:
We also had a whole debate where we had to prove Cardinal World is like our size.
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Although this was argued against by that Hyper guy and not Elde
 
Violatas said:
I'm kinda confused on what you're getting at here ngl because Worlds are "universes" (outside of when it can just mean planet). But you know what, if Elde sees this he can just comment if he was arguing not all "universes" are our size or not
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This is a quote of one of his responses
I already posted the Yuuki statement. It states probably one world, One universe. Implying it can be either. Not all Worlds existing in Subspace should be universal sized.
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He doesn't say that universe statements don't always mean universe-sized, he says that it was never stated that all worlds are universes, only for specific ones
Violatas said:
Also you didn't address this part

Although this was argued against by that Hyper guy and not Elde
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Yeah and Hyper was debunked to nonexistence and his words no longer hold any value for us
 
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