Kai Chisaki (Overhaul) VS Ken Kaneki (My Hero Academia Vs Tokyo Ghoul) [12-3.5-0]

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Kai Chisaki VS Ken Kaneki
Nemoto Fusion Overhaul will be used
Attack Potency: 711.97 Tons of TNT, 2.15 Megatons of TNT with Spikes
Durability: 711.97 Tons of TNT
Lifting Strength: Class K
Part 1 Kaneki will be used
Attack Potency: 893 Tons of TNT
Durability: 893 Tons of TNT
Lifting Strength: Class G

Speed is equalized
Fight takes place in 20th ward

Fight OST:


Overhaul: @Arkansalter2 @LIFE_OF_KING @Kavopaco @Kingofwolves999 @JoeDM021 @CastoriceTheFifth @Bruhtelho @Robo432343 @Lloydblitzed @AthelChan @Arkenis @Doggo

One Eye Ghoul: @NikHelton @DarthSorox @Foriaa

@Delusionaltx2 neutral, leaning towards Kaneki

 

[Robo432343]

kaneki fighting a nobody
will wait for @NikHelton

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

kaneki fighting a nobody
will wait for @NikHelton

It was either this or lemillion

 

[Robo432343]

It was either this or lemillion

or shigaraki

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

or shigaraki

I wanted Shigaraki Vs Kaneki the most

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

kaneki fighting a nobody
will wait for @NikHelton

Overhaul has like 3 wincons.

Decay
Quirk Destroying Bullet
Ridiculous Spike Danmaku

 

[NikHelton]

Okay, I looked at Chisaki's profile and he looks like the illegitimate son of Shigaraki and Kaneki.
By the way, how does Shiragaki's Decon differ from Chisaki's Decon, specifically in terms of power and mechanics?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Okay, I looked at Chisaki's profile and he looks like the illegitimate son of Shigaraki and Kaneki.
By the way, how does Shiragaki's Decon differ from Chisaki's Decon, specifically in terms of power and mechanics?

His quirk can one shot people like decay. He can reassemble himself or others to heal wounds. He can fuse other things or himself. He can manipulate his surroundings like creating the Danmaku ground Spikes.

The main difference is that his one shot decay is only via him touching with his hands. Unlike Shigaraki's pure destruction and spreading to things he hasn't touch.

 

[NikHelton]

Kaneki immediately enters the fight using his kagune, and thanks to his accelerated perception, he immediately notices that it begins to crumble when touched. He actively spams his kagune in a frontal attack, while his other tentacles attack Chisaki from underground, trapping him by the legs and binding him. His Light Skill is enough to break his opponent's bones during the grapple and slam them into the ground. As soon as things get tough, he activates his kakuju and decapitates Chisaki.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Kaneki immediately enters the fight using his kagune, and thanks to his accelerated perception, he immediately notices that it begins to crumble when touched. He actively spams his kagune in a frontal attack, while his other tentacles attack Chisaki from underground, trapping him by the legs and binding him. His Light Skill is enough to break his opponent's bones during the grapple and slam them into the ground. As soon as things get tough, he activates his kakuju and decapitates Chisaki.

He would also have to avoid the Small City Level insane aoe Spikes, which is like tens of meters similar to kagune's range and could cover the entire room with it

Theres also the Quirk destroying bullet that Kaneki wouldnt know about

• Power Nullification and Biological Manipulation (With the Quirk Destroying Bullets, he can undo a portion of a person's genetics, destroying their Quirk</a>)

 

[NikHelton]

He would also have to avoid the Small City Level insane aoe Spikes, which is like tens of meters similar to kagune's range and could cover the entire room with it

This is not a problem because Kaneki knows how to deal with it.

Theres also the Quirk destroying bullet that Kaneki wouldnt know about

• Power Nullification and Biological Manipulation (With the Quirk Destroying Bullets, he can undo a portion of a person's genetics, destroying their Quirk</a>)

Kaneki always dodges bullets

 

[DarthSorox]

Kaneki overskill+LS+AD FRA

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

This is not a problem because Kaneki knows how to deal with it.

Kaneki always dodges bullets

I dont know how that would work if the plan was to trap overhaul and bind his legs if he could just either shoot his kagune or touch it

 

[Foriaa]

So Overhaul is a bit stronger with Spikes, but Kaneki at this point has regen in the Mid tier. Kaneki also like's to spam attacks from every angle while also attacking the opponent with his main body. Seeing as how Kaneki also has a major LS advantage, any grabs from the dozen of Kagune Kaneki throws out will result in Overhaul losing that limb. Kaneki will understand that Overhaul's ability is contingent on his hands, so it will be the main point of focus for him. And if Kaneki get's pressed to hard, he'll just activate his Kakuja and blitz him to hell.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

So Overhaul is a bit stronger with Spikes, but Kaneki at this point has regen in the Mid tier. Kaneki also like's to spam attacks from every angle while also attacking the opponent with his main body. Seeing as how Kaneki also has a major LS advantage, any grabs from the dozen of Kagune Kaneki throws out will result in Overhaul losing that limb. Kaneki will understand that Overhaul's ability is contingent on his hands, so it will be the main point of focus for him. And if Kaneki get's pressed to hard, he'll just activate his Kakuja and blitz him to hell.

Overhaul could reassemble himself with his quirk to regain the limb that was lost. Kaneki would have to be extremely careful to attack him with his kagune while making sure overhaul doesn’t lay a single finger on it as well.

 

[Foriaa]

Overhaul could reassemble himself with his quirk to regain the limb that was lost. Kaneki would have to be extremely careful to attack him with his kagune while making sure overhaul doesn’t lay a single finger on it as well.

I'm ngl, I stopped watching MHA around the part where Limillion fought him and lost his quirk. And then I learned that Overhaul lost his arms and shit, why didn't he just reassemble his arms back?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I'm ngl, I stopped watching MHA around the part where Limillion fought him and lost his quirk. And then I learned that Overhaul lost his arms and shit, why didn't he just reassemble his arms back?

He lost both his lands to use the quirk

 

[Foriaa]

Oh

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Oh

It happened when Deku beat his ass using 100%. Due to that ass whooping he got completely immobilized full body. Then the league of villains jumped the vehicle that was containing him and jumped his ass

 

[Foriaa]

Damn they did his ass bad

 

[NikHelton]

I dont know how that would work if the plan was to trap overhaul and bind his legs if he could just either shoot his kagune or touch it

He simply dodges the bullet and keeps his distance.
Kaneki will perform a feint with a frontal strike from his kagune, while the remaining few tentacles will already be attacking Chisaki from behind.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

He simply dodges the bullet and keeps his distance.
Kaneki will perform a feint with a frontal strike from his kagune, while the remaining few tentacles will already be attacking Chisaki from behind.

But what is the plan against trying to his kagune as his offense while avoiding laying a single finger on it. I remember you did say he’d try to restrain overhaul’s legs underground but all he would need to do is touch the tentacle restraining it and the fight would probably be over if that happens.


Btw what actually happens if the quirk destroying bullet hits Kaneki. What would happen to him?

 

[NikHelton]

But what is the plan against trying to his kagune as his offense while avoiding laying a single finger on it. I remember you did say he’d try to restrain overhaul’s legs underground but all he would need to do is touch the tentacle restraining it and the fight would probably be over if that happens.

Chisaki got punched in the face by Lemillion without a Quirk. Kaneki definitely has the skills to avoid his hands.
With such a difference in LS, Kaneki wouldn't just bind his legs, but also break them, pierce his torso and organs. Nothing stops Kaneki from delivering a fatal blow.

Btw what actually happens if the quirk destroying bullet hits Kaneki. What would happen to him?

Idk. Quirks are linked to souls, as far as I remember, and a kagune is a purely biological ability. In the worst case, it would destroy his kakuhou, but Kaneki would simply restore it. He could even start eating himself to restore his RC, lol.

 

[Mommyleona]

Theres also the Quirk destroying bullet that Kaneki wouldnt know about

Kaneki doesnt have a quirk for that to do anything

 

[Machmatej]

Kaneki doesnt have a quirk for that to do anything

Quirks are biological, and the bullets destroy quirks by severely damaging the genetic makeup/structure of what makes the quirk. If Kaneki's powers are biology-based (as in, part of his body and not outside magic or tech), which I'm pretty sure it is, then the quirk destroying bullet would work.

 

[Machmatej]

Idk. Quirks are linked to souls, as far as I remember, and a kagune is a purely biological ability. In the worst case, it would destroy his kakuhou, but Kaneki would simply restore it. He could even start eating himself to restore his RC, lol.

Quirk factors are linked to souls. A quirk is just the physical manifestation of the biological and genetic structure caused by a quirk factor. Idk if that makes sense but they're different

 

[Machmatej]

Btw what actually happens if the quirk destroying bullet hits Kaneki. What would happen to him?

I'd imagine Kaneki would lose the supernatural abilities linked to his ghoul physiology, so he'd be pretty limited.

 

[NikHelton]

Quirk factors are linked to souls. A quirk is just the physical manifestation of the biological and genetic structure caused by a quirk factor. Idk if that makes sense but they're different

However, this is specifically a quirk neutralization.

What happens if you shoot this dart at a guy with a tail? Will the tail evaporate? I don't think so. It seems this thing only works within the MHA, but even if we're being generous, ghouls can regenerate their kakuhou and RC cells. Kaneki would just have to eat a piece of himself or Kai.

 

[NikHelton]

kaneki fighting a nobody
will wait for @NikHelton

What is your voice?

 

[Foriaa]

Voting Kaneki, and as Nik said, removing Kaneki's ghoul abilities is not that crazy since he can regen his Kakuho over and over again as long as he has flesh.

 

[Machmatej]

However, this is specifically a quirk neutralization.

What happens if you shoot this dart at a guy with a tail? Will the tail evaporate? I don't think so.

Absolutely, yes. Considering it strips the user of all mutations in their genetic makeup, a tail would definitely just get deleted.

but even if we're being generous, ghouls can regenerate their kakuhou and RC cells. Kaneki would just have to eat a piece of himself or Kai.

His regeneration will also be removed, since it's part of his ghoul physiology. He'd get his body rewinded to before he became a hybrid.

 

[Machmatej]

Okay, I looked at Chisaki's profile and he looks like the illegitimate son of Shigaraki and Kaneki.

I think his powers and design were loosely inspired by ghouls in TG. And btw his power is just the original version of Shigaraki's decay.

 

[Foriaa]

How would undoing his genetics remove the Kakuho?

 

[Machmatej]

How would undoing his genetics remove the Kakuho?

his body would get rewinded to before he had Kakuhou

 

[Foriaa]

his body would get rewinded to before he had Kakuhou

You mind sending this happening in thr manga? the profile links a chapter where the quirk goes away

 

[Machmatej]

You mind sending this happening in thr manga? the profile links a chapter where the quirk goes away

Actually, the rewind part isn't on his profile so idk if it can be used (I can still send you scans of that if you want). But either way the Kakuhou would get destroyed since it's part of ghoul physiology.

 

[NikHelton]

Absolutely, yes. Considering it strips the user of all mutations in their genetic makeup, a tail would definitely just get deleted.


His regeneration will also be removed, since it's part of his ghoul physiology. He'd get his body rewinded to before he became a hybrid.

That sounds highly questionable. This medicine was intended specifically for Quirks, which are a relatively new phenomenon and appear at a certain age.

What you described is more like transforming into a human. If character A was born with a tail and it's a characteristic of their species, it won't disappear from this bullet. It's part of their natural physiology.
The same is true for ghouls. The RC in the body isn't a mutation, but a natural element. A destroyed kakuhou will regenerate. Even when Kaneki lost his kakuhou, he didn't lose his ghoul physiology. Furthermore, ghouls have limited resistance to biological manipulation at the gene level.

But the most important thing is that Kaneki doesn't even have to fight back. For some reason, lil bro Kaneki never blocks kagune bullets or absorbs them into his body. He dodges. Especially when his opponent has supernatural abilities.

 

[Machmatej]

That sounds highly questionable. This medicine was intended specifically for Quirks, which are a relatively new phenomenon and appear at a certain age.

What you described is more like transforming into a human. If character A was born with a tail and it's a characteristic of their species, it won't disappear from this bullet. It's part of their natural physiology.
The same is true for ghouls. The RC in the body isn't a mutation, but a natural element. A destroyed kakuhou will regenerate. Even when Kaneki lost his kakuhou, he didn't lose his ghoul physiology. Furthermore, ghouls have limited resistance to biological manipulation at the gene level.

But the most important thing is that Kaneki doesn't even have to fight back. For some reason, lil bro Kaneki never blocks kagune bullets or absorbs them into his body. He dodges. Especially when his opponent has supernatural abilities.

The issue is that the bullet was made from Eri's Rewind quirk, which allows the bullet to rewind someone or their genes before they had a mutation give them powers (And cure them by doing the same thing). In Kaneki's case, he wasn't born a ghoul, so your example doesn't even matter. He'd effectively get reminded back into a human, or at least before he developed a lot of his abilities.

And I won't get too caught up on who wins (at least for now because I'm kinda busy and don't care that much for the matchup), I just wanted to clarify that the bullets would work on Kaneki if he was hit.

 

[Arkansalter2]

I don't think Kaneki has any ranged options by this time. Kaneki has no answer to Overhaul quirk just splattering.
Going with Kai.

 

[NikHelton]

I don't think Kaneki has any ranged options by this time. Kaneki has no answer to Overhaul quirk just splattering.
Going with Kai.

Why should he respond? He sees his kagune crumbling from contact with his opponent's hands, accelerates, and tries to attack his legs, his back, and deliver a fatal blow.

If Lemillion's hand-to-hand skills were enough to beat the crap out of Kai, then Kaneki can handle it. All he needs is one stab wound to tear Chisaki apart from the inside.