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(1 Staff Needed) Fairly Minor PGR CRT

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AlipheeseXIV said:
Not how it works, it can be used
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Nope it can't. If TLC (time lag calculation) is a thing, TLC user should pull them off when we fight them but nah, none of them uses TLC. There are a huge number of examples: Alisa (her signature casts TLC) did not stop time when she activates the signature (6:37). Alpha (again) also did not stop time (0:53). Watanabe (again) also did not stop time (2:45).

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AlipheeseXIV said:
then things like matrix would be removed
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In contrast, matrix is an actual thing and not a game mechanic. No.21 used it to save a survivor (1:22:37). The unidentified twins copied matrix (0:40) to show that they can mimic human technology. Numerous boss fight against constructs like Alisa, Alpha, ATL Lamia, Lee, the Twins (we have an entire matrix fight with them) showed that they can activate matrix against us the player. The GR Commandant can even activate matrix even though he's not a construct (0:20). Matrix also can be casted without dodging like Bianca can manually activates it through snapping her finger (3:13), Liv's matrix, ATL Lamia activates matrix just by jumping (0:46)

At this point, nearly everyone possesses a matrix and can utilize them meanwhile none of TLC users even use it. Time lag calculation is used just for Warzone and PPC speedrun lol.
 
Richtofen115rdg5 said:
Nope it can't. If TLC (time lag calculation) is a thing, TLC user should pull them off when we fight them but nah, none of them uses TLC. There are a huge number of examples: Alisa (her signature casts TLC) did not stop time when she activates the signature (6:37)
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No. This is a false example because this is Echo's boss fight which is not only before she becomes playable, but bosses don't have TLC from their playable version in game for balancing reasons.
Richtofen115rdg5 said:
Alpha (again) also did not stop time (0:53).
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Once again a false example.
Richtofen115rdg5 said:
Watanabe (again) also did not stop time (2:45).
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Once again a false example, these aren't anti feats.
Richtofen115rdg5 said:
No.21 used it to save a survivor (1:22:37). The unidentified twins copied matrix (0:40) to show that they can mimic human technology. Numerous boss fight against constructs like Alisa, Alpha, ATL Lamia, Lee, the Twins (we have an entire matrix fight with them) showed that they can activate matrix against us the player. The GR Commandant can even activate matrix even though he's not a construct (0:20). Matrix also can be casted without dodging like Bianca can manually activates it through snapping her finger (3:13), Liv's matrix, ATL Lamia activates matrix just by jumping (0:46)

At this point, nearly everyone possesses a matrix and can utilize them meanwhile none of TLC users even use it. Time lag calculation is used just for Warzone and PPC speedrun lol.
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No, this is called nitpicking. Because by your logic I can easily argue that 21 doesn't have matrix because it was only showed in gameplay, the Twins don't actually have matrix because it's only in their boss fight. Likewise the Commandant does not have matrix at all outside of gameplay, or even any weapons outside of energy guns. The gameplay just gives you those options for the sake of gameplay. Does that mean we should completely ignore these feats? No. Because it's a video game, and that's the entire point of video game feats. It's just clear you don't fully understand the wiki's standards with gameplay feats. If you're arguing this then you're arguing every single feat shown during gameplay across all game verse's should not be used, which if you really wanna do that might as well make a staff CRT to remove damage boost, resistance negation, and virtually every gameplay feat that exists on the wiki. Have fun.
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
No. This is a false example because this is Echo's boss fight which is not only before she becomes playable, but bosses don't have TLC from their playable version in game for balancing reasons.

Once again a false example.

Once again a false example, these aren't anti feats.

No, this is called nitpicking. Because by your logic I can easily argue that 21 doesn't have matrix because it was only showed in gameplay, the Twins don't actually have matrix because it's only in their boss fight. Likewise the Commandant does not have matrix at all outside of gameplay, or even any weapons outside of energy guns. The gameplay just gives you those options for the sake of gameplay. Does that mean we should completely ignore these feats? No. Because it's a video game, and that's the entire point of video game feats. It's just clear you don't fully understand the wiki's standards with gameplay feats. If you're arguing this then you're arguing every single feat shown during gameplay across all game verse's should not be used, which if you really wanna do that might as well make a staff CRT to remove damage boost, resistance negation, and virtually every gameplay feat that exists on the wiki. Have fun.
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Not a single arguments nor scans and proves but telling me to argue with min/mod and not understand the wiki's standard.
 
Richtofen115rdg5 said:
Not a single arguments nor scans and proves but telling me to argue with min/mod and not understand the wiki's standard.
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I don't have to provide scans for anything, what I said is common knowledge on the wiki. You can go and check every single game verse imaginable to see this for yourself, if you still disagree after presented with that fact then I'm suggesting you voice and make your concerns the only possible way you can and that's with a staff CRT.
 
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Based on the scan, this is directly stated to be Shapeshifting and Invisibility. I suppose you can add Stealth Mastery on there for mimicking behaviors or whatever.
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Don't think we consider piercing damage Durability Negation. If components are supposed to be internals, it may be fine, but if it's piercing in, from the outside, that's more so, aiming for vital spots.
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More so, Technology Manipulation, since there is a mechanical arm thing attached to the sword.

Profiles seem fine outside of that.

As for the rest, Logic Manipulation isn't a thing yet, and the LS should be fine. One thing I do have to say I'm iffy about on these profiles is the speed scaling. Just being stronger than someone doesn't scale your every movement beyond their orbital strike attack. Likewise, throwing a lance at high speed would be an Attack Speed only feat, unless it's being reacted to or whatever.

Anyway, I won't go too deep into that, but you might want to have a CRT go over that kind of stuff.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Based on the scan, this is directly stated to be Shapeshifting and Invisibility. I suppose you can add Stealth Mastery on there for mimicking behaviors or whatever.
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For some reason the second scan wasn't uploaded that goes into more detail on camo, invis & illusion creation, but yeah I'll add the scan and shapeshifting as well.
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Don't think we consider piercing damage Durability Negation. If components are supposed to be internals, it may be fine, but if it's piercing in, from the outside, that's more so, aiming for vital spots.
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Components are internals yeah, Constructs don't really have vitals.
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
More so, Technology Manipulation, since there is a mechanical arm thing attached to the sword.
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Yeah sure I can change this.
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
One thing I do have to say I'm iffy about on these profiles is the speed scaling. Just being stronger than someone doesn't scale your every movement beyond their orbital strike attack. Likewise, throwing a lance at high speed would be an Attack Speed only feat, unless it's being reacted to or whatever.
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Well the verse functions on a UES, so an increase in strength does also affect speed. Not only that but In both cases slower characters are able to both react to and block/intercept/dodge these attacks, characters slower than Lamia can react to Lee's orbital strike and the Rosetta feat (lance throwing) is not only reacted to by much slower characters such as Liv but Alpha was able to catch that same attack that was thrown much faster with far greater force behind it. Even Lee (who was far slower than Alpha at that point in time) could fight against a blood lusted Rosetta who was going to kill him but still dodge her attacks.
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Anyway, I won't go too deep into that, but you might want to have a CRT go over that kind of stuff.
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Like to outline a scaling chain or something along those lines?
 
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ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
Based on the scan, this is directly stated to be Shapeshifting and Invisibility. I suppose you can add Stealth Mastery on there for mimicking behaviors or whatever.

More so, Technology Manipulation, since there is a mechanical arm thing attached to the sword.
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Alright, I have edited the profiles to reflect this now.
 
I believe that should be the end of this thread now, just waiting SpaceMan's revaluation.
 
Bump, also still waiting for confirmation though last I checked three agreed aside from what SpaceMan said which I've applied to the page. So I think this is good but idk.
 
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The fact this CRT has been going on for as long as the 1B CRT, is actually insane, no shot this is taking longer than that lol. Yet a wuwa CRT can get accepted in less than 2 weeks. I'm losing hope.
 
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