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Stellar Blade Discussion Thread
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Eve doesn't have a profile yet to my knowledge and ap/dc aren't the only things that matter
They also have similar speed too
Both penny and eve can get to mountain level (amity feat for penny) and eve scaling off of the elder naytiba that created a pocket dimension which was calculated at mountain level if I remember correctly. I can go more indepth but I don't how this site operates on spoilers but given the context of the site....
However I would like be safe
This is just a great fight imo
Should I show the videos I mentioned?
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Let's focus on getting the profiles up first. Best to make sure the rankings are in place.
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Is any of this still being worked on
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I was taking a break and wanted to try to clean up some of the profiles I had made. But if nobody else is doing it, I can take over.
Here, send me or at least link me the video of dodging the laser. We do have several attacks confirmed to be light but the hard part is dodging them when fired at you as opposed to fired away then swung like a stick.
This is what I have so far so if you have better feats, let me know. I keep hearing about Island Level feats but nobody can ever specify them.
vsbattles.fandom.com
Here, send me or at least link me the video of dodging the laser. We do have several attacks confirmed to be light but the hard part is dodging them when fired at you as opposed to fired away then swung like a stick.
This is what I have so far so if you have better feats, let me know. I keep hearing about Island Level feats but nobody can ever specify them.
TheAngryOrange/sandbox
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I can give more input when im off work but is she always the exact same stat wise for the entire game like in universe or is she ever actually stated to have gotten stronger at points throught the gameI was taking a break and wanted to try to clean up some of the profiles I had made. But if nobody else is doing it, I can take over.
Here, send me or at least link me the video of dodging the laser. We do have several attacks confirmed to be light but the hard part is dodging them when fired at you as opposed to fired away then swung like a stick.
This is what I have so far so if you have better feats, let me know. I keep hearing about Island Level feats but nobody can ever specify them.
TheAngryOrange/sandbox
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Does everyone have the necessary sources and facts? Remember there's a lot of statements via bio's that we should look at (someone already gave a comprehensive list) are we going to make multiple profiles for eve considering the multiple endings or just one? I have scans if needed too. I just really want justice and respect to the profile. I think we should focus on whether or not that tachy and by extension eve legitimately use tachyon particles via the tachyon blade that tachy uses and or just the speed of tachy. There's this one youtuber who has done multiple videos on stellar blade but he doesn't site his sources unfortunately but I have asked him in the comments and I have verified multiple claims of this.
How do you want me to send or link the videos?I was taking a break and wanted to try to clean up some of the profiles I had made. But if nobody else is doing it, I can take over.
Here, send me or at least link me the video of dodging the laser. We do have several attacks confirmed to be light but the hard part is dodging them when fired at you as opposed to fired away then swung like a stick.
This is what I have so far so if you have better feats, let me know. I keep hearing about Island Level feats but nobody can ever specify them.
TheAngryOrange/sandbox
The island level feats probably comes from the pocket dimension creation but Idk for sure but I can look.
She get's increasely stronger throughout the games progression via lily's improvements,experience and eve taking body and beta cores but it is implied that eve has some level of accelerated development as proven by the first two missions. At first she can barely keep up with an elite naytiba but in the very next mission she defeats one all on her own and it was much easier
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Then there should be several calcs done especially for early game at least 2 keys then
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Yeah,eve has two states (base and fusion) unless you want to count her tachy mode state and yes I would like multiple calculations to be done but sadly I'm not a math wiz. However I have seen a few calculations out there. I think I tried asking the calc guy's but I never got a response.
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Hey I remember that I uploaded the videos to YouTube,is it ok if I link my YouTube channel here so that you have access to the whole thing without me sending multiple links?I was taking a break and wanted to try to clean up some of the profiles I had made. But if nobody else is doing it, I can take over.
Here, send me or at least link me the video of dodging the laser. We do have several attacks confirmed to be light but the hard part is dodging them when fired at you as opposed to fired away then swung like a stick.
This is what I have so far so if you have better feats, let me know. I keep hearing about Island Level feats but nobody can ever specify them.
TheAngryOrange/sandbox
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I did a calc for some early game feat I’m still waiting to be evaluated.
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I've seen people link twitter before and be safe so I'm going to do the same thing. I will link my YouTube channel in the twitter post and then link that here. Anyone will have access to my saved clips that I took about eve dodging the droid laser in gameplay so we can gets some solid speed calculations if the game mechanic is considered legitimate or lore specific.
(here is the link to my YouTube channel so that anyone can see and potentially calculate the speed feats of eve dodging the droids lasers if the gameplay is lore specific)
I looked at your Sandbox profile of eve TheAngeryOrange and While I do think it's mostly accurate I would like to point out or suggest a few things. These are only my points and constructive criticism
1. I don't think that eve can "rapidly" regenerate during combat although she does have at least one nanosuit that is capable of stopping bleeding and regenerating.
2. The hacking from the drone requires outside help from lily. So while I think it should be included I'm not necessarily sure that it counts.
3. You forgot that eve can use "unstable energy" and yes it's different from beta energy. This is confirmed in the gameplay and in the attack bios.
4. I do like your conservative approach with eve's speed as there are no speed calcs to my knowledge but in the stellar blade x nikki crossover it's confirmed that raven's sword can unleash a chill of pulsating blue light. Eve also fights the democrawler who shoots out light as an attack and then there's the elder naytiba that manipulates and attacks with light
5. I don't think her stamina is actually infinite as her body cell has a limited amount of energy as confirmed by eve herself and with the feat in question. Yes eve was up and fighting later,we don't know how her body cell works and while eve does mention an "infinity cell" we don't know what it is. If we do know what it is please prove it to me.
6. I know the Sandbox profile is a rough draft but we should include the bloodedge/weapon cores and nanosuits. The bloodedge with the weapon core can analyze eve's opponent and adapt,I would also like to state that beta energy also increases against non naytiba enemies,so the blood edge/weapon cores and beta energy aren't naytiba specific. It works on all opponents. Also Eve has access to tachy's blade which is a tachyon blade that is capable of "cutting through virtually anything". Specific nanosuits also have varying abilities like absorbing the energies of the universe or increasing the speed of the user. We should also consider beta, body cores and memory sticks. Each one is important.
(here is the link to my YouTube channel so that anyone can see and potentially calculate the speed feats of eve dodging the droids lasers if the gameplay is lore specific)
I looked at your Sandbox profile of eve TheAngeryOrange and While I do think it's mostly accurate I would like to point out or suggest a few things. These are only my points and constructive criticism
1. I don't think that eve can "rapidly" regenerate during combat although she does have at least one nanosuit that is capable of stopping bleeding and regenerating.
2. The hacking from the drone requires outside help from lily. So while I think it should be included I'm not necessarily sure that it counts.
3. You forgot that eve can use "unstable energy" and yes it's different from beta energy. This is confirmed in the gameplay and in the attack bios.
4. I do like your conservative approach with eve's speed as there are no speed calcs to my knowledge but in the stellar blade x nikki crossover it's confirmed that raven's sword can unleash a chill of pulsating blue light. Eve also fights the democrawler who shoots out light as an attack and then there's the elder naytiba that manipulates and attacks with light
5. I don't think her stamina is actually infinite as her body cell has a limited amount of energy as confirmed by eve herself and with the feat in question. Yes eve was up and fighting later,we don't know how her body cell works and while eve does mention an "infinity cell" we don't know what it is. If we do know what it is please prove it to me.
6. I know the Sandbox profile is a rough draft but we should include the bloodedge/weapon cores and nanosuits. The bloodedge with the weapon core can analyze eve's opponent and adapt,I would also like to state that beta energy also increases against non naytiba enemies,so the blood edge/weapon cores and beta energy aren't naytiba specific. It works on all opponents. Also Eve has access to tachy's blade which is a tachyon blade that is capable of "cutting through virtually anything". Specific nanosuits also have varying abilities like absorbing the energies of the universe or increasing the speed of the user. We should also consider beta, body cores and memory sticks. Each one is important.
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Any progress so far
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Apparently the newest update just added a bunch of extra end game content, including epilogue cutscenes.
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What extra content aside from the epilogs?
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So I rechecked some of my stellar blade scans and found a tenth ship which which puts the total amount of airborne squad members that fusion state eve defeats is 1,920 instead of the previous number of 1,728. For context please look back to my calculations on how many airborne squad members that eve defeats previously in this thread
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Hey are you there?
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Sorry, work had me running around.
I've removed the regeneration bit (could've sworn there was a load out that let's you passively regain health)
At the very least I've picked out one example of Eve dodging the turret droid laser. That said in my experience you tend to need to get a mod/admin approval for SoL (I remember that was a saga for me). So if you can get that then pair it up with the video you can get a calc that might be able to take it higher than MH+.
I'll have to read through all the lore stuff and see what it entails. Cuz I remember the 'absorbing the energies of the universe' in the description for the keyhole suit. But like...can we actually do anything with that? It sounds more like new agey hippie zen stuff than something that's actually happening.
But if you can link me some images or videos of some of the stuff (like the unstable energy. blood edge adapting, or anything you want), it makes my job easier cuz I really link references
I've removed the regeneration bit (could've sworn there was a load out that let's you passively regain health)
At the very least I've picked out one example of Eve dodging the turret droid laser. That said in my experience you tend to need to get a mod/admin approval for SoL (I remember that was a saga for me). So if you can get that then pair it up with the video you can get a calc that might be able to take it higher than MH+.
I'll have to read through all the lore stuff and see what it entails. Cuz I remember the 'absorbing the energies of the universe' in the description for the keyhole suit. But like...can we actually do anything with that? It sounds more like new agey hippie zen stuff than something that's actually happening.
But if you can link me some images or videos of some of the stuff (like the unstable energy. blood edge adapting, or anything you want), it makes my job easier cuz I really link references
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Take your time,your job is more important and yeah I'll do that but later. I'll also reconfirm everything
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I'm not linking the content here,so do you want me to make a twitter post and link that in the post and then link it here,like I did previously?
There is a nanosuit that let's you regenerate fast but it's only after you kill an enemy
How do I get approval from a mod or administrator and which video did you choose?
The bio's in stellar blade imo are very technical and I don't think they'd say that if it wasn't true
You can verify everything I'm saying by looking at the bios for the specific things I said but I can still give you evidence for it
I thought you said that you would do the calc or was that just for the profile? Are you doing a fusion state eve version of the Sandbox profile? After you respond to all this I'll do my part later
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Go ahead, link that. I'm basically asking for help because I'd not only have to look through all the nano suits and spines and items etc myself but then take pictures and all that. If someone already sees something and even has an image of it, it makes things easier since I can immediately add it and reference it on the profile
You remember which one? Because I thought it was only a gear piece.
This one
Now there might be others but I only took a quick glance. And I've updated the sandbox to have it so I can find it easily. But it is one of definite shoot at Eve and not shoot away and swing like a stick. So the dodging bit is fulfilled.
I looked at the post I made. I put it in content revision then sought people to comment. But ultimately it's the staff that get the final say. Also when I did the SoL calculations I linked to the thread that got approved so the calc mod can see that it has been approved.
I don't think they're technical. Many of them sound like advertisements rather than technical explanations on how they work.
Like here's just a few
"Being pushed out by the wave, riding on the wave, or just being the wave itself. Become a wave in the style of Black Wave, and swim freely in the sea."
"We’ll be with you wherever motivation is needed. Share your passion with others."
"This is the 'Exotic Sense' collection outfit designed by Tetrastar C&T's lead designer, 'Galaxy' Alan. It's said that the embedded Nano Elements are loaded with a malicious code that is like some kind of electronic drug so that you can boost enhanced speed." <--This one especially since nano suits don't change your stats
"Tetrastar C&T is here for you. A casual sailor outfit from the Comfort Collection that makes you feel more friendly, comfortable, and confident."
I can do the calc. It's just easier if someone else does it. Plus, I've been trying to get the calc mods to look at several of my calcs but not no response for I think the last 7 months. So it might be faster to have someone else do it.
I don't think fusion state should get like a special key or anything. That is unless you're referring to post merging with Adam and not equiping the Symbol of legacy.
If you're referring to the SoL earrings, at most maybe Tachy Mode tab becomes Tachy Mode/Fusion State since it's just a reskin of Tachy Mode.
If you're referring to the ending I can change 'After Fusing with Adam' to 'Fusion State'
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I'll get back to you
Can you try to do the moderator and Admin thing you talked about?
What do you think about how many people that fusion state eve beat with my calculations? 1,920 is the new number due to a 10th ship instead of nine
We should also make a profile for adam as he has enough for a basic profile imo. He can manipulate creation if I rember correctly
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You may want to make the proposal. Or at least may want input on it. Take a look at this
Laser/Light Beam Dodging Feats
While light-based attacks such as energy blasts or laser beams are common in fiction, they are often portrayed in an unrealistic manner. On VS Battles Wiki, they are only accepted to move at the speed of light under certain circumstances. Typically, lasers and other light-based attacks are only...
vsbattles.fandom.com
But basically you have to argue for why the beam should be considered light
As for the profiles, I think the primary focus would be on abilities. Raven, Adam, and Providence should all scale to End-game Eve with the only difference. The only one that might not would be Tachy who will scale to early game Eve.
Mann is going to be a wild card as you never fight him accept in the boss challenge.
I can get working on the abilities section.
Aside from them, are there any other characters of note?
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Idk how to and am I even allowed to? Remember that I'm newYou may want to make the proposal. Or at least may want input on it. Take a look at this
Laser/Light Beam Dodging Feats
While light-based attacks such as energy blasts or laser beams are common in fiction, they are often portrayed in an unrealistic manner. On VS Battles Wiki, they are only accepted to move at the speed of light under certain circumstances. Typically, lasers and other light-based attacks are only...
But basically you have to argue for why the beam should be considered light
As for the profiles, I think the primary focus would be on abilities. Raven, Adam, and Providence should all scale to End-game Eve with the only difference. The only one that might not would be Tachy who will scale to early game Eve.
Mann is going to be a wild card as you never fight him accept in the boss challenge.
I can get working on the abilities section.
Aside from them, are there any other characters of note?
Wouldn't everyone already know the requirements for it to be considered a LS lasers?
Raven>mann
Thanks for getting to work,I'll look through my stellar blade scans
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I'll get the rest later and sorry for the link dump but you asked for this,if you want you can just check out my profile for the links instead of clicking on each oneYou may want to make the proposal. Or at least may want input on it. Take a look at this
Laser/Light Beam Dodging Feats
While light-based attacks such as energy blasts or laser beams are common in fiction, they are often portrayed in an unrealistic manner. On VS Battles Wiki, they are only accepted to move at the speed of light under certain circumstances. Typically, lasers and other light-based attacks are only...
But basically you have to argue for why the beam should be considered light
As for the profiles, I think the primary focus would be on abilities. Raven, Adam, and Providence should all scale to End-game Eve with the only difference. The only one that might not would be Tachy who will scale to early game Eve.
Mann is going to be a wild card as you never fight him accept in the boss challenge.
I can get working on the abilities section.
Aside from them, are there any other characters of note?
Stellar blade evidence
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976438320428351739?t=P8jdSJckkJpZjUPxsyJ-Qw&s=09
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976438590109622745?t=IfRYx99ubH-WS0CrQeeg1g&s=09
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976438943785930909?t=wD4VuM6fLBF4IVO5o72gkA&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976439204923248839?t=nEcnc4ZLft2chheS5Bi9fQ&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976440537826922880?t=y0gEm3HZxy2VH5m0s6lf_Q&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976441557135020470?t=JHwTiOVzGz9cc77XDTNUgg&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976441860630732845?t=SZk16YN3wZtMfg7Pdko2YA&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976442140235579763?t=V0fohunJNhRbsDBRkf606w&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976442506717053287?t=Y4EN3u2ppg3vJfYBzUtJ2A&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976442866227675325?t=8WfyguyVQ5kcDacDl8R6hg&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976443225704632464?t=CilWtnn9lzmVDCuesRWp4Q&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976443672700071998?t=D9ChFTZSppPUNWRTyqIgoQ&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976443886970233226?t=qkt2ScTg9Muzb1NdF-CRog&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976444379100508569?t=B6ZZ_1x8ffdqK9IqILgCWg&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976445108410253375?t=y-9EMi1aqUI4jrc3GoYNzg&s=19
https://x.com/GrantLangkamp/status/1976446291568906542?t=0oiQH4Q5LTqE1aibpktjKQ&s=19
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Are you working on it and can you make the proposal instead? I'd rather just provide evidence,if that's ok with you. Also for the unstable energy claim I made you can just watch the YouTube videos where eve beats bosses without burst and beta energy.You may want to make the proposal. Or at least may want input on it. Take a look at this
Laser/Light Beam Dodging Feats
While light-based attacks such as energy blasts or laser beams are common in fiction, they are often portrayed in an unrealistic manner. On VS Battles Wiki, they are only accepted to move at the speed of light under certain circumstances. Typically, lasers and other light-based attacks are only...
But basically you have to argue for why the beam should be considered light
As for the profiles, I think the primary focus would be on abilities. Raven, Adam, and Providence should all scale to End-game Eve with the only difference. The only one that might not would be Tachy who will scale to early game Eve.
Mann is going to be a wild card as you never fight him accept in the boss challenge.
I can get working on the abilities section.
Aside from them, are there any other characters of note?
Adam and by extension eve's fusion state should get creation and life manipulation
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Alright I got the post up.
vsbattles.com
I'll let you add more stuff.
Also I'll add this
vsbattles.com
This is when I first did a SoL proposal for reference.
Proposal: Stellar Blade's lasers should count as light speed
I was told if I thought the laser was light speed I would need to make a specific case for it. More will be coming along the way but the opening argument comes from the Democrawler "Democrawlers drive up their energy to fire barrages or shoot light beams" That is the only example of an...
I'll let you add more stuff.
Also I'll add this
Proposal: NieR Automata lasers&EMP should count as light speed.
I was told if I thought the laser/EMP attack was light speed I would need to make a specific case for it. Here it is. I believe the lasers/EMP of NieR Automata should be considered light speed. 1) Naming convention:The game characters and cutscenes call them lasers. The official names and...
This is when I first did a SoL proposal for reference.
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I can already see something you can put as an argument. The translation of superluminal speeds.
In the meantime, I'm going to use the pictures to shore up the sandbox.
In regards to Mann's ranking.
I mean...what Tier do we put him in? Tachy would likely scale to Early Game Eve. We know that Mann lost to Raven but we don't know how much. And since he's only in the boss challenges, we don't know if we scale him to early game Eve with Tachy. Or late game Eve. He still can lost to Raven even if his stats match.
In the meantime, I'm going to use the pictures to shore up the sandbox.
In regards to Mann's ranking.
I mean...what Tier do we put him in? Tachy would likely scale to Early Game Eve. We know that Mann lost to Raven but we don't know how much. And since he's only in the boss challenges, we don't know if we scale him to early game Eve with Tachy. Or late game Eve. He still can lost to Raven even if his stats match.
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I deeply appreciate this but for reference your nier evidence could possibly disqualify the legitimacy of rwby's lasersAlright I got the post up.
Proposal: Stellar Blade's lasers should count as light speed
I was told if I thought the laser was light speed I would need to make a specific case for it. More will be coming along the way but the opening argument comes from the Democrawler "Democrawlers drive up their energy to fire barrages or shoot light beams" That is the only example of an...
I'll let you add more stuff.
Also I'll add this
Proposal: NieR Automata lasers&EMP should count as light speed.
I was told if I thought the laser/EMP attack was light speed I would need to make a specific case for it. Here it is. I believe the lasers/EMP of NieR Automata should be considered light speed. 1) Naming convention:The game characters and cutscenes call them lasers. The official names and...
This is when I first did a SoL proposal for reference.
Also imo due to the distance in nier I Don't think 2b is necessarily LS or FTL in combat and reaction speed but that's besides the point. Thank you for the post.
I forgot to add that in my argument but I can bring it up later and maybe I can link the YouTube video where I got it form.
Thanks for your consideration and willingness to edit the sandbox based on my evidence
With regards to mann,he's the leader of the guards and sentinels of the orcal and xion. He upscales from everyone below him and the two guards that guard the underground facilities are comparable to an alpha naytiba as per stated by the first one. Now obviously raven is much stronger than mann but via statement he should scale to the gigas,naytiba tachy and the monstrous alpha naytiba that encompasses the space elevator and by extension the democrawler.
I personally the boss battle would take place before the space mission but that's just me. In the fight eve can use beta skills so that could be a indicator of when it takes place.
I'll try to give more evidence for the profile and LS-FTL arguments.
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Why are you doing this via twitter post and using pictures of the screen taken via your phone
Just screenshot in game and upload those screenshots directly to imgur or to the wiki
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They closed the thread,I didn't know that,that was a requirement? Does this discussion not count or does the verse need to have a page dedicated to it like rwby or yugioh does?
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I had a poor reception on uploading links/evidence. I will be doing it safe. I almost got in trouble. I don't have a imgur account and that site isn't reliable as multiple links get deleted there.
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You made a content revision thread and there is no content produced yet to revise so any of that stuff should just be relegated to just general discussion as it has been
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Correct me on this. It's been more than a few years. But I was told that if a verse wants their laser stuff accepted as light speed, they need approval first before they can get calc mods to approve of it. Or was it only because Nier already existed as a verse when I wanted to push that forwards.
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Brother there is no content out for the verse on wiki to begin to make CRTs yet so you're proposing stuff for a verse that doesn't yet exist in a content REVISION thread.
Again there is no content to revise yet so there is no point in making a thread and you aren't like producing the profiles or verse in that CRT you made either so like it's ultimately not worth anything
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Your misunderstanding me.
Ok timeline on things. While back I submitted some laser dodging stuff for calc eval. I was told that before a laser feat calc is accepted, I'd need to get staff approving the lasers to be light speed first and I was told to make a CRT on it. So I made a CRT, went through the motions, got it approved, then got the calc approved. Yes, the verse already existed.
But if I was preparing profiles for a verse in the works, don't I still need to get the same approval?
Perhaps it just doesn't go into the CRT? Can staff approve of light speed stuff here?
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Here, continue with the calcs. Maybe they changed the rules or something. Either way, if they still need that approval, a calc mod will say where to put it.
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The rules haven't changed, you just have no content to revise to make a CRT.
You made a CRT for a verse with with no completed profiles ready or anything of the sort and while yes you still need to get the lasers accepted as lightspeed in a CRT you don't make it its whole own thing unless this was an already existing verse with profiles and shit which its not, since the verse is just now being established and nothing is ready to be produced then there is no CRT you should be doing before having everything finished first
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So we have to put the profiles up then get it approved. No way to get it approved before the profiles go up then have it up with the laser stuff the first time?
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Do it in the same CRT when you're ready to produce the actual pages for the verse
