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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Axxtentacle said:
Is that the official translation? I can try and find an alternative, but I'm not sure of any that exist that early on for the manga
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It is, yeah. If no alt translations exist, I suppose the raw can always be brought to the translation thread.
Axxtentacle said:
though I do think he's saying souls have "health", but soul health is probably more like how much more damage it can take before you die and the soul leaves the body. But I do think it effects output, I'm just saying we're not quite sure how. We know CE should come from the soul, because Mahito says emotions are just the metabolism of the soul, and CE is spawned via emotions, but the direct connection between those things is unclear
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I assume it correlates directly to Output because Mahito was unsure he could kill Todo in one hit with Idle Transfiguration solely because he was at 40%. And we're shown/told that Souls can be reinforced with Cursed Energy to mitigate the effects of Idle Transfiguration. Is also consistent with the damage we see. Full power Nanami tanks Idle Transfiguration and requires several touches to transfigure, weakened Nanami dies to a single touch, Nobara has part of her face blown off by a tap from a weakened Mahito, and an even more weakened Mahito doesn't believe he can transfigure Todo with a single touch.

Seems like the weaker his soul was, the more his output decreased. Mahito also said Yuji's soul seemed to be at 10% despite the fact Mahito can't even interact with Yuji's soul due to Sukuna. He got to that point purely from being battered physically after Mahito broke him psychologically. So I think Yuji being at 10% and Mahito being at 40% (and Todo at 100% since he just joined fresh) makes sense imo.
 
btw, does this mean that gojo can shrink/grow people or that domains can be bigger on the inside than the outside

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LaserPrecision said:
It is, yeah. If no alt translations exist, I suppose the raw can always be brought to the translation thread.

I assume it correlates directly to Output because Mahito was unsure he could kill Todo in one hit with Idle Transfiguration solely because he was at 40%. And we're shown/told that Souls can be reinforced with Cursed Energy to mitigate the effects of Idle Transfiguration. Is also consistent with the damage we see. Full power Nanami tanks Idle Transfiguration and requires several touches to transfigure, weakened Nanami dies to a single touch, Nobara has part of her face blown off by a tap from a weakened Mahito, and an even more weakened Mahito doesn't believe he can transfigure Todo with a single touch.

Seems like the weaker his soul was, the more his output decreased. Mahito also said Yuji's soul seemed to be at 10% despite the fact Mahito can't even interact with Yuji's soul due to Sukuna. He got to that point purely from being battered physically after Mahito broke him psychologically. So I think Yuji being at 10% and Mahito being at 40% (and Todo at 100% since he just joined fresh) makes sense imo.
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Yeah, his output definitely decreased. I'm not saying it doesn't correlate, just that Yuji is definitely not 10X stronger than Todo at 100% health at this point. Soul health seems to be a little weird, cause Mahito implies that psychologically destroying Yuji would **** with his soul. It definitely matters for output but I don't think it's literally 10% soul health = 10% overall output
 
Sammy818 said:
Domains are pocket dimensions, size on outside doesn’t equal size inside
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So... why cant domains be used used for AP?

Cause I thought the previous reasoning was that the inside of domains where just illusions and thus wouldn't be big enough to mean anything AP wise
 
Axxtentacle said:
Yeah, his output definitely decreased. I'm not saying it doesn't correlate, just that Yuji is definitely not 10X stronger than Todo at 100% health at this point. Soul health seems to be a little weird, cause Mahito implies that psychologically destroying Yuji would **** with his soul. It definitely matters for output but I don't think it's literally 10% soul health = 10% overall output
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To be fair, Sister school event Yuji was already stronger by Todo's own admission, and that was a Yuji who didn't understand Cursed Energy at all and had never experienced Black Flash. This is a Yuji who's come to understand Cursed Energy efficiency and experienced Black Flash several times (As well as possessing a lot more fighting experience against strong foes). Plus Todo was complaining about falling behind and leaving Yuji behind and ended up landing a Black Flash to catch back up. So Yuji being patently more strong than Todo would be fine imo. And on top of that, Yuji's punches did a LOT more damage to Mahito physically than Todo's did. I can't remember if he only bleeds if his soul is damaged so I'll ignore Yuji's barrage of normal punches making Mahito barf blood. But that weakened Yuji's Black Flash mutilated Mahito's arm whereas Todo's caused a wrist fracture.
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Weakened Mahito's Black Flash made (amped) Todo vomit blood and was out of the fight despite reinforcing the part struck whereas Yuji who just had his spirit broken was able to eat it (as well as a prolonged beating where he didn't defend himself), and then get up to fight with Todo after he reinvigorated his spirit. Overall physically, Yuji does seem to be fairly stronger. So if he was 10x stronger at his absolute peak at that point, I don't know if that'd be an issue?

Well yeah, if you destroy someone psychologically, they can't use Cursed Energy properly and become weaker. Like what happened back in the Prison with Yuji and the Finger Bearer. And Cursed Energy Output is how you protect your soul. I assume that + the beating he took dropped him to 10%.
 
Rogue_Forge said:
So... why cant domains be used used for AP?

Cause I thought the previous reasoning was that the inside of domains where just illusions and thus wouldn't be big enough to mean anything AP wise
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The reasoning currently accepted is that a Domain uses most of a Sorcerers Cursed Energy up in a single use (Nearly a days worth IIRC), and most Cursed Techniques and attacks don't use NEARLY that amount of Cursed Energy. Thus there's no reason to assume their techniques or punches are outputting as much force as their Domains take to construct. Which I think is fair. Tho for Sorcerers that can spam Domain willy nilly, I wouldn't be completely unopposed to them scaling since they can expend that much energy without care.
 
LaserPrecision said:
The reasoning currently accepted is that a Domain uses most of a Sorcerers Cursed Energy up in a single use (Nearly a days worth IIRC), and most Cursed Techniques and attacks don't use NEARLY that amount of Cursed Energy. Thus there's no reason to assume their techniques or punches are outputting as much force as their Domains take to construct. Which I think is fair. Tho for Sorcerers that can spam Domain willy nilly, I wouldn't be completely unopposed to them scaling since they can expend that much energy without care.
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I thought it was bec cursed energy isnt accepted as a ues
 
LaserPrecision said:
The reasoning currently accepted is that a Domain uses most of a Sorcerers Cursed Energy up in a single use (Nearly a days worth IIRC), and most Cursed Techniques and attacks don't use NEARLY that amount of Cursed Energy. Thus there's no reason to assume their techniques or punches are outputting as much force as their Domains take to construct. Which I think is fair. Tho for Sorcerers that can spam Domain willy nilly, I wouldn't be completely unopposed to them scaling since they can expend that much energy without care.
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Ok that actually makes a lot of sense

Even a maximum technique doesn't use that much cursed energy so there's really nothing to scale domains to
 
ElJoaki5 said:
They are
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They are not. What is stated is that the concrete (matter, mass) is completly irrelevant for the domain, and that breaking it won't affect anything.

Dagon created a whole ocean that you can swim, so I don't see the point (2:08)


Either way, domain shouldn't scale to AP. It's based on Subject Reality where the user expands their own innate domain into the real world, which makes it impossible to get any value. It is as stupid as trying to calculate the energy from a character warping reality.

Plus, the fact that most sorcerers are unable to use domains and need almost a week to restore the curses energy
 
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LaserPrecision said:
The reasoning currently accepted is that a Domain uses most of a Sorcerers Cursed Energy up in a single use (Nearly a days worth IIRC), and most Cursed Techniques and attacks don't use NEARLY that amount of Cursed Energy. Thus there's no reason to assume their techniques or punches are outputting as much force as their Domains take to construct. Which I think is fair. Tho for Sorcerers that can spam Domain willy nilly, I wouldn't be completely unopposed to them scaling since they can expend that much energy without care.
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I think domain uses a day worth of cursed energy hence "they can only use domain once a day"

What if we divide the total amount by one day?
 
So the pixel scaling for the Uraume ice block calc is bad right? So is anyone gonna make a CRT to remove it?
 
although if Yuka's CT is actually Bone Manip or Bone projection or some shit like that

Maybe that might actually happen if she locks in
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
The main characters getting their asses beat by a sub-par grade 1. They cooked
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I was gonna quote it asking if it's a leak but by quoting it the censor turns null lol

Anyway, Grade 1 sorcerers are still top dogs

Either way, I don't trust leakers. I mean, last time they said that Tsurugi had problems against a tiger (He killed it in one attack)
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
I was gonna quote it asking if it's a leak but by quoting it the censor turns null lol

Anyway, Grade 1 are still top dogs

Either way, I don't trust leakers. I mean, last time they said that Tsurugi had problems against a tiger (He killed it in one attack)
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I saw the leaked panels but I was exaggerating. They didn't really get their asses beat but it was more like they were still struggling to a degree.
 
Guys the Kny goers are already reaching for Uni+ and infinite speed we gotta lock in on the outerversal Gojo scaling
 
I want to so bad to just revise indie games/niche comics and leave this shit ass verse where you need mental gymnastics for any kind of revision 🥀
 
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