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Humanity's New Gods: Homelander VS Albert Wesker (0-0-3)

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Homelander:
  • Has no prior knowledge on Wesker.
  • Homelander is bloodlusted
  • Scales to 3.80 Tons of TNT
”I'm stronger! I'm smarter! I'm better! I am better!”

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Albert Wesker: @Qurbonboev @Kellex @Pyro9278
  • Has no prior knowledge on Homelander.
  • Is in character.
  • Post-Virus Wesker is used (Usage of Uroboros is optional for Wesker)
  • Scales to 4.12 Tons of TNT
”Seven minutes, seven minutes is all I can spare to play with you.”

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Inconclusive:
  • Speed is equalized
  • Starting distance is 10 meters
  • The fight takes place near Vought Tower
  • SBA for the rest
The Homelander downgrade just dropped so they're finally much closer AP-wise
 
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JDN9999 said:
Post-Virus Wesker is used (Usage of Uroboros is optional for Wesker)
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If I am reading it right, Uroborus slowers Wesker? If yes, Wesker probably wouldn't use it.

Wesker is considerably more skilled, is more mobile and has better regeneration.
Homelander has heat vision(Wesker doesn't seem too resistant against it), rage power and serious advantage in lifting strength (class 50 vs K).
Seems closer than I thought
 
Qurbonboev said:
If I am reading it right, Uroborus slowers Wesker? If yes, Wesker probably wouldn't use it.

Wesker is considerably more skilled, is more mobile and has better regeneration.
Homelander has heat vision(Wesker doesn't seem too resistant against it), rage power and serious advantage in lifting strength (class 50 vs K).
Seems closer than I thought
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Wesker also has slightly higher reaction speed
 
Qurbonboev said:
If I am reading it right, Uroborus slowers Wesker? If yes, Wesker probably wouldn't use it.

Wesker is considerably more skilled, is more mobile and has better regeneration.
Homelander has heat vision(Wesker doesn't seem too resistant against it), rage power and serious advantage in lifting strength (class 50 vs K).
Seems closer than I thought
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Well, the Lifting Strength part could change pretty significantly, I've been trying to get Wesker upgraded, but other than that, Uroboros could also grant Wesker better resistance against heat vision
 
JDN9999 said:
Well, the Lifting Strength part could change pretty significantly, I've been trying to get Wesker upgraded, but other than that, Uroboros could also grant Wesker better resistance against heat vision
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Assuming he survives the initial output
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
Assuming he survives the initial output
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Well, I'd argue before Uroboros, Wesker could be capable of avoiding the laser vision, along with his superior agility Homelander would have a hard time hitting him. And with Uroboros, he has vastly better capability to take heat-vision due to him already being shown to be able to swim in lava
 
Homelander could also lose the striking strength advantage, as I took a look at the downgrade thread again, and KLOL made a new calculation that got the result below Wesker's current value, though as of now Homelander only holds a slight edge
 
JDN9999 said:
And with Uroboros, he has vastly better capability to take heat-vision due to him already being shown to be able to swim in lava
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Except his heat vision is able to burn people who resist heat up to 3500°. Lava peaks at 1200° so that's a very incomparable possibility
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
Doesn't Homelander also no sell and upscale his value. How's he gonna get damaged actually?
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Unless difference is 8x or more, we assume that weaker opponent still can damage him. Safe to assume that in pure H2H fight, Wesker as much more skilled opponent, would be able to hit Homelander much more consistently
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
Except his heat vision is able to burn people who resist heat up to 3500°. Lava peaks at 1200° so that's a very incomparable possibility
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There is still the argument of Wesker being agile enough to dodge the lasers before Uroboros, he is shown much slower with Uroboros. No idea if he would choose mutation considering the speed would be a better advantage for him, he is much more capable in combat before it (Could also possibly hold the LS advantage when the upgrades go through)
 
Qurbonboev said:
Unless difference is 8x or more, we assume that weaker
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I don't think that's how it works- it's why amps that make one blitz or one shot another still stand in a versus match and I'm sure we both know they're not 8x amps. Not how it works. Also, you're not contending the real issue and you completely missed the point of my response, Homelander "oh damn.. this happened" HIS FEAT which scales above Wesker's AP. That kinda implies that Homelander is pretty much a tank to 4 ton attacks 🗿
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
I don't think that's how it works- it's why amps that make one blitz or one shot another still stand in a versus match and I'm sure we both know they're not 8x amps. Not how it works. Also, you're not contending the real issue and you completely missed the point of my response, Homelander "oh damn.. this happened" HIS FEAT which scales above Wesker's AP. That kinda implies that Homelander is pretty much a tank to 4 ton attacks 🗿
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Well, Malacoda who Wesker gets his value from is only stated to be a B.O.W, Wesker has the statement of exceeding Perfected B.O.W's, Malacoda not being a perfected B.O.W, as those are distinct from usual B.O.W's, I wouldn't say Wesker can't casually handle his value either (And I'm also not sure if HL isn't going down to 3 tons due to KLOL's new calc he made post-downgrade)
 
JDN9999 said:
Well, Malacoda who Wesker gets his value from is only stated to be a B.O.W, Wesker has the statement of exceeding Perfected B.O.W's, Malacoda not being a perfected B.O.W, as those are distinct from usual B.O.W's, I wouldn't say Wesker can't casually handle his value either
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That's fine. They should be in the same ballpark since they both upscale drastically, unquantifiably. But if Wesker was outright straightforward 4 tons, it'd be GG's in terms of physical strength. It all comes down to skill now since they're a bit comparable. Lander also has the LS advantage as of rn
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
That's fine. They should be in the same ballpark since they both upscale drastically, unquantifiably. But if Wesker was outright straightforward 4 tons, it'd be GG's in terms of physical strength. It all comes down to skill now since they're a bit comparable. Lander also has the LS advantage as of rn
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I'd say this is a bit on the fence until we reach a conclusion on LS, though even with the difference I'd lean Wesker
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
I don't think that's how it works- it's why amps that make one blitz or one shot another still stand in a versus match and I'm sure we both know they're not 8x amps
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It's more akin to rough simplification, than anything. They both upscale from their values, so they should be more or less close.

Da3ggman said:
We're working on a ls change for Wesker that should make him Class M soon enough, profile just doesn't have the sauce yet.
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How fast can it be applied.
Kellex said:
It isn't just "slightly", it's about ~4.13x times higher
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They should mention such details in first post
 
Qurbonboev said:
It's more akin to rough simplification, than anything. They both upscale from their values, so they should be more or less close.


How fast can it be applied.

They should mention such details in first post
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I've bumped the thread recently, we need one more staff to agree on Uroboros Wesker upscaling Malacoda + Aheri and we need the new Ndesu calc evaluated
 
Qurbonboev said:
You don't exactly need to be Sherlock to deduce this. Fortunately for Homelander, he isn't entirely skillless fighter, and has busted heat vision
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Bet! Finna out him against her cuz she is weak to fire :33
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JDN9999 said:
Well, until then, is anyone casting votes?
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Leaning Wesker for now. Better skills and higher reaction speed. Heat vision is main problem for him.
How much his regeneration is combat applicable? His profile puts it at Low-Mid but provided example took 40 minutes of laying motionless.
 
Qurbonboev said:
Leaning Wesker for now. Better skills and higher reaction speed. Heat vision is main problem for him.
How much his regeneration is combat applicable? His profile puts it at Low-Mid but provided example took 40 minutes of laying motionless.
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Don't know the extent, honestly

I presume I shall count your vote towards Wesker for now, then?
 
I think it would be more fair if Homelander were Bloodlusted and had prior knowledge. At least he'll go all out, and until the profile is updated, Wesker has a massive disadvantage in LS.

Ironically, despite everything, Wesker will most likely win, but at least it's more balanced and fun to see a Homelander going all in directly.
 
Pyro9278 said:
I think it would be more fair if Homelander were Bloodlusted and had prior knowledge. At least he'll go all out, and until the profile is updated, Wesker has a massive disadvantage in LS.

Ironically, despite everything, Wesker will most likely win, but at least it's more balanced and fun to see a Homelander going all in directly.
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I'd argue Wesker would eventually ragebait him into doing so anyway, but true
Also regarding your last sentence, is your vote on Wesker then?
 
JDN9999 said:
Don't know the extent, honestly

I presume I shall count your vote towards Wesker for now, then?
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Yes. But lack of combat applicable low-mid regeneration makes fight far more even(I still assume that Wesker would have better regeneration during fight).
 
If it isn't a stomp, I'm voting Wesker because of high hypersonic+ reaction speeds, skill, mobility, and intelligence.

Even if Homelander has heat vision and superior LS for now, Wesker can just weave through his attacks as the heat vision's speed doesn't seem to be higher than Homelander's
 
Btw, Homelander was downgraded from 4.24 to 3.81 tonnes. So it's Wesker who technically holds advantage in AP(4.12 vs 3.81)
 
With the downgrade, Homelander's LS is now useless, so it's now recommended to put it Bloodlusted or with prior knowledge at least.
 
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