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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Um hi! Why does each Dragon Ball macrocosm has 3 universes instead of 6 universes? Isn't the macrocosm consistent of The Afterlife, Mortal Universe, Heaven, Hell, Dai Makai, and Kaioshin Kai as seperate universes?
 
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Definitely considering it. He had a match with shura once, although shura doesn’t scale to low 1-c so I can’t recreate it atm. Hades is pretty thematic so maybe that
 
MichaelCalistro said:
Um hi! Why does each Dragon Ball macrocosm has 3 universes instead of 6 universes? Isn't the macrocosm consistent of The Afterlife, Mortal Universe, Heaven, Hell, Maikai, and Kaioshin Kai as seperate universes?
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The Mortal Universe is, of course, the first Low 2-C structure

The Afterlife (Which, btw, contains Heaven inside of it) is the second

The Kaioshin Realm is the third

Neither Hell or the Maikai have enough evidence for being universe-sized space-times and, afaik, they are the same cosmological structure
 
Accelerated_Evolution said:
The Mortal Universe is, of course, the first Low 2-C structure

The Afterlife (Which, btw, contains Heaven inside of it) is the second

The Kaioshin Realm is the third

Neither Hell or the Maikai have enough evidence for being universe-sized space-times and, afaik, they are the same cosmological structure
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Heaven was stated to be a universe on its own and Hell would be the polar opposite of Heaven.
Mortal Universe is obviously a universe, and The Afterlife would be the polar opposite of Mortal Universe.
Kaioshin Kai is a universe as you mentioned, by this logic Dai Makai which is the polar opposite of Kaioshin Kai would be the same.
 
Accelerated_Evolution said:
The Mortal Universe is, of course, the first Low 2-C structure

The Afterlife (Which, btw, contains Heaven inside of it) is the second

The Kaioshin Realm is the third

Neither Hell or the Maikai have enough evidence for being universe-sized space-times and, afaik, they are the same cosmological structure
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At least toei would have more than 6 Universes, because everything is infinite
 
MichaelCalistro said:
Heaven was stated to be a universe on its own and Hell would be the polar opposite of Heaven.
Mortal Universe is obviously a universe, and The Afterlife would be the polar opposite of Mortal Universe.
Kaioshin Kai is a universe as you mentioned, by this logic Dai Makai which is the polar opposite of Kaioshin Kai would be the same.
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Being the "polar opposite" of a universe-sized structure doesn't have implications on the size of Hell/Maikai

Plus, yup, Heaven is a universe-sized place, but it ins't located on separated space-time continuum, it still is inside the Afterlife
 
Whats with chariot ? His arguments were so disingenuous, "zamasu wanted everyone dead" yet left them after ?? Well whatever idrc anyway.
 
Chariot was speculating that zamasu was insane at that point. While it’s possible, obviously no one went out of their way to clinically diagnose him as he was fusing with the world. If he were insane, it would explain his lowered ki output and actions. If he wasn’t tho, he just looks stupid cos of plot. Either is possible tbh.
 
supertomioka said:
Whats with chariot ? His arguments were so disingenuous, "zamasu wanted everyone dead" yet left them after ?? Well whatever idrc anyway.
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Given the things I've heard and seen during my time here, it's not new behavior.

Regardless, they got their foot in the door with IZ being 5D now.
 
StekFence said:
Chariot was speculating that zamasu was insane at that point. While it’s possible, obviously no one went out of their way to clinically diagnose him as he was fusing with the world. If he were insane, it would explain his lowered ki output and actions. If he wasn’t tho, he just looks stupid cos of plot. Either is possible tbh.
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Isn’t Infinite Zamasu accepted as mentally insane on his profile anyways
 
I showed the guys here in Brazil on Facebook that the infinite Zamasu managed to be 5D, and the guy literally says that DB doesn't have a higher dimension, and Zeno is affected by space-time, you can tell that everyone who said that is an OPM or Saint Seiya fan
 
StekFence said:
Is that so
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Weaknesses: Due to being a fusion of a mortal and immortal being, Fusion Zamasu's immortality is compromised and his regeneration is far slower. Fusion Zamasu is incredibly arrogant, and can be taken off guard should someone begin matching his newfound power. Transforming into his Grotesque form lowers his speed at the expense of higher attack power. (Although, because he is currently scaled to a speed feat that he is leagues above, this weakness should normally not come up in a debate) | Has lost a vast portion of his intellect and seems to be merely insane
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I showed the guys here in Brazil on Facebook that the infinite Zamasu managed to be 5D, and the guy literally says that DB doesn't have a higher dimension, and Zeno is affected by space-time, you can tell that everyone who said that is an OPM or Saint Seiya fan
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Here we go with the fandom wars again
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
Given the things I've heard and seen during my time here, it's not new behavior.

Regardless, they got their foot in the door with IZ being 5D now.
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Funny enough I was initially going with option 1 but after doing research I changed my mind , chariot rebuttal was very dishonest, I was disappointed 🥀. If he is done with his the boys calc I'd like to discuss that topic with him
 
Why does Zamasu not scale to Immeasurable Lifting Strength? If his AP scales with the fact that he merged with the hypertimeline, surely some argument can be made that he is capable of holding at least one timeline by himself, as he would literally become the hypertimeline itself. He already has Large Size Type 10 and HDE (5d)
 
Arthex said:
Why does Zamasu not scale to Immeasurable Lifting Strength? If his AP scales with the fact that he merged with the hypertimeline, surely some argument can be made that he is capable of holding at least one timeline by himself, as he would literally become the hypertimeline itself. He already has Large Size Type 10 and HDE (5d)
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Class G Infinite Zamasu fusing with the Hypertimeline but gets mogged by Class P Deku. Good Lord
 
Arthex said:
Why does Zamasu not scale to Immeasurable Lifting Strength? If his AP scales with the fact that he merged with the hypertimeline, surely some argument can be made that he is capable of holding at least one timeline by himself, as he would literally become the hypertimeline itself. He already has Large Size Type 10 and HDE (5d)
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Lifting Strength page revision

This thread made me think that the wording on Immeasurable Lifting Strength is imprecise & wrong. "Infinite strength in relation to 3-dimensional entities, equated to higher-order beings on greater planes of existence and/or higher-dimensional beings when portrayed as qualitatively superior."...
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Arthex said:
Why does Zamasu not scale to Immeasurable Lifting Strength? If his AP scales with the fact that he merged with the hypertimeline, surely some argument can be made that he is capable of holding at least one timeline by himself, as he would literally become the hypertimeline itself. He already has Large Size Type 10 and HDE (5d)
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There’s a thread for this
 
Btw, IZ being eventually Low 1-C won't make TOP characters and above upscale and get the tier.

Why are you guys saying they will upscale if IZ was never truly Low 1-C in the show except it's hypotethic/eventual self?
 
Accelerated_Evolution said:
The Mortal Universe is, of course, the first Low 2-C structure

The Afterlife (Which, btw, contains Heaven inside of it) is the second

The Kaioshin Realm is the third
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Why is the Supreme Kai Realm a universal space-time again? What exactly is the accepted combined size of the Living World and Other World?
 
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