Editors Note: I started typing this before Lonkitt's response was posted, and I didn't want to give up typing this since this took a while. But I bring up pretty much the same points, so sorry about that Lonkitt. Promise I'm not copying
Quicksilver's attack potency varies, so he probably wasn't hitting them with as much force as he was against Captain America
That doesn't really mean anything
Yeah, and Proxima defeated them & would've killed both of them had Wanda not helped
I think at most you can use this for a really good skill feat, since Black Widow could hold her own against someone so much stronger than her
Yeah, and then she proceeds to get helplessly overpowered & do litteraly nothing to him after multiple elbow strikes. Those types of downward elbow strikes used to be illigal in UFC because of how dangerous they are, but Natasha doing multiple straight to the top of Bucky's head was completely ignored
That definetly doesn't seem like it was full force. That scene also shows Bucky tossing Black Widow like a piece of trash while from a poor position. Not great support for her being comparable to him if he can throw her around so easily
This would be decent, but there's 1 problem with it. What does "88% threat" mean? Does Nat have an 88% chance of winning? Is there an 88% chance she'd put up a good fight? Is she 88% the skill of Taskmaster? 88% the strength of Taskmaster? 88% chance she gets away? Does Nat's connection with the Avengers impact this at all? What about the fact that she's a fugitive?
Unless you can tell us what 88% threat means, then this means nothing. Plus,
Taskmaster proceeds to no-diff her moments later
Litteraly moments prior in that clip Black Widow was completely pinned & unable to move. That punch also launches Nat an insane distance and clearly puts her down for a bit. This entire scene is meant to show that Taskmaster can demolish Black Widow in a fight, not that Black Widow is anywhere comparable to her
Black Widow, Yelena, and Hawkeye may be weaker than the Super Soldiers, but as seen here, they are still strong enough to stand up to them. Therefore, they and those scale to them should be downscale from the Super Soldiers and upgraded to 8-C.
All of these are from the same fight, so I'm going to cover all of them at once
This is probably the best evidence for your claim, but much like many of the other scans here, many of these scenes are instantly followed up with the peak humans getting completely ragdolled
In this one fight, we see:
And probably more in the rest of the movie that I'm blanking on. Now yes, there are scenes instances where they somewhat trade blows, but I'm willing to bet this is just
PIS. It happens because the directors wanted a cool fight scene between these characters. Your general audience really doesn't think too deeply about powerscaling, so doing something like this really isn't that obsurd, and has even happened in past MCU movies. Mark 7 Iron Man legit held his own against Pre-Awakening Thor. Captain America withstood a unibeam from Mark 45 Iron Man during their brief scuffle. This type of stuff happens because writers usually don't think that deeply about powerscaling, and will sacrifice consistant powerscaling for an entertaining scene. Throughout the rest of the MCU & the rest of the movie, super soldiers are shown to be significantly stronger than peak humans time and time again.
I think at most you could make a great skill arguement for Ghost & Yelena, as they were able to hold their own against characters drastically stronger than them, which is very impressive skillwise. Being able to make up for a huge strength difference by skill alone is a very good feat & would make them a nightmare against anyone their tier in a VS Match
This entire arguement also ignores Falcon & The Winter Soldier, which by itself debunks this entire CRT since that show is filled to the brim with peak humans getting no-diffed by super soldiers, and needing to use 8-C weaponry to even stand a chance.
There's also the fact that there's a direct statement in a guidebook saying that super soldiers are 10x as strong as peak humans (Base Crossbones is scalable to Falcon, while Crossbones with the gauntlet harmed Captain America)
Furthermore, we can look at this from a narrative point of view. The super soldier serum is supposed to be a HUGE increase to strength. That's why it's so valuble in the MCU, and why everyone and their grandma's dog was trying to remake it. It could buff even peak humans like John Walker into unstopable superhumans. And other substances with simular effects such as the Heart-Shaped Herb are given the same amount of praise & value. It would make no sense for the world to be so obsessed with this syrum if it only gave peak humans a tiny bump in strength
