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Jonathan? Corpse? Jorge Joestar reference?
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable
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Ruby_R_Dracula
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Saw a dude on a MHA Vs Thread talk about how The MFTL Args are dogshit, asked him to argue about it with the Knowledgeable members, They said they won't cuz Knowledgeable members are Bias fans,
anyways this whole thing did made me think of smth
Besides the Calced feats on the wiki and that one feat involving Caesar, Joseph and the Redstone of Aja
how many Rel to FTL feats has there been showcased in the entire verse?
anyways this whole thing did made me think of smth
Besides the Calced feats on the wiki and that one feat involving Caesar, Joseph and the Redstone of Aja
how many Rel to FTL feats has there been showcased in the entire verse?
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i mean, theres a full-on statement that SP is FTL without timestop
RHCP's existence
should be enuff
cant name others off the top of my head but i'd dig on CSAP for potentially more stuff (tho likely they reference the same things)
Ruby_R_Dracula
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ic, was mostly wondering due to the dude, and also the fact we only got like 2 ftl and above calcs on the wiki (but then again, Im a supporter of a verse that legit only has one speed calc so..)
Baken384
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MFTL feat from Silver Chariot with two FTL feats as supporting (Sun Deflect and first Hanged Man Slice)
RHCP is stated to be moving at the Speed of Light, and Crazy Diamond's restoration can drag back Okuyasu while he is in the powerline.
Star Platinum having multiple statements about being number 1 in speed when Explicit Lightspeed Stands like Hanged Man and RHCP exist not just in the guidebooks, but also in the manga as well of course, with the latter it was stated only Jotaro can keep up in the same sentence his Lightspeed statement was made. Has direct scaling to the guy who did the MFTL feat (Polnareff)
RHCP is stated to be moving at the Speed of Light, and Crazy Diamond's restoration can drag back Okuyasu while he is in the powerline.
Star Platinum having multiple statements about being number 1 in speed when Explicit Lightspeed Stands like Hanged Man and RHCP exist not just in the guidebooks, but also in the manga as well of course, with the latter it was stated only Jotaro can keep up in the same sentence his Lightspeed statement was made. Has direct scaling to the guy who did the MFTL feat (Polnareff)
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Over 30.
We just don't have many blogged atm, we'll get around to it.
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Since Yukako's profile is in part a Step 1 for a wide-scale revision of Part 4, I'm wondering whether there's any direct statements or scaling that would make Stands like The Hand and BoS Crazy Diamond "significantly above Echoes Act 2", as claimed by the current profiles, specifically its SFX which is what scales to 8-C, not its physicals alone. Like yeah, I could buy it, Act 2 is never treated as a powerhouse of a Stand, but Jojo also rarely cares about raw power output in general. Hell, I'm not even sure if Act 3 has any statements that would give it 8-C physicals, it's stated directly to be stronger than Act 2 but I'm pretty sure that's about 3 Freeze, not just its physical stats.
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Oh, the damage shit is easy, Koichi himself flat out says that very blast probably wouldn't have killed her because it isn't a power type stand and thus not as strong (He only knows of 3 power types, CD, Plat and TH, and he's never seen Plat fight at that point in time). I wouldn't say significantly tho, but the upscaling does exist.
Also a few tertiary statements but ya know.
Act3 does, but it's only 1 statement, and it's that its physical prowess exceeds Act's attack output, which, well ya know...
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echoes act 2 class m tensile strength ong
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Echoes act 3 Class G tensile strength
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Greetings
my idea for my major JoJo contribution is to use my (low) skill to create team profiles for each part
Since i've already done the part 4 sandbox and i intend on launching the CRT when i get all other team-able parts that i know
(1, 2 (pillar bois), 3 (stardust crusaders both complete and avdol-less if it seams reasonable) and 5 (thinking about both a Team Bucciarati and a For-Categorization-Sake La Squadra profiles)),
Which one y'all think i should go to, next?
was thinking about Jonathan's gang or Stardust Crusaders, but lemme hear some stuff from y'all first
my idea for my major JoJo contribution is to use my (low) skill to create team profiles for each part
Since i've already done the part 4 sandbox and i intend on launching the CRT when i get all other team-able parts that i know
(1, 2 (pillar bois), 3 (stardust crusaders both complete and avdol-less if it seams reasonable) and 5 (thinking about both a Team Bucciarati and a For-Categorization-Sake La Squadra profiles)),
Which one y'all think i should go to, next?
was thinking about Jonathan's gang or Stardust Crusaders, but lemme hear some stuff from y'all first
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bump
Ruby_R_Dracula
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star finger
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think he may be meaning Over-heaven stuff, so maybe..?
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If we count non-canon material then JoJo already has 1-A and 10D fellas
If just using canon material than Fate has quite a bit of stuff going for it indicating that it's HD/5D which would apply to Jotaro, Dio, Giorno and err, Mista too ig
(if you want to be a rat, you can twist some interview statements out of context to argue that Fate is 1-A lmao)
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Technically the 10D stuff is like, 4D to 10D. We don't actually know what dimensionality the Spaghetti Men entities are controlled from, just that there are beings which exist there.
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Ye
I'm pretty sure there's other stuff like Censored Equation which is also stated to be Higher D or something along those lines iirc
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Technically it's at least 4D to nigh-infinite D. They say "10 or more". 10D isn't the cap, it could go up to any degree above it.
In canon tho the best ya can do is 5D based on random shit, but none of it scales to anyone whatsoever except literally God ig.
In canon tho the best ya can do is 5D based on random shit, but none of it scales to anyone whatsoever except literally God ig.
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I can manage.
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Not sure if this really counts as scaling but don't both Jotaro and Dio have statements saying they have protection from fate and can't really lose in the long term until their fated battle?
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That's just fate slop, ig if ya wanna stretch they'd have higher protection but it wouldnt effect they themselves. And also would only be 4 or 5D at best not the funny rohan ln lv.
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Yeah that was more so what I was getting at. Though it would make the profiles completely unmatchable so uhh
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Praying to God that the part 8 anime confirms that I Am a Rock withstood the SHA clump, maybe 8-B JoJolion will be real that way! I'm not coping! I'm not!
Also it's funny as hell that Cinderella is one of the few stands that outright manipulates fate
Also it's funny as hell that Cinderella is one of the few stands that outright manipulates fate
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Howler will get Class T, trust
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outside of earth=aliens
Mikitaka possibly 10D let's gooooooooooooooooooooo
Ruby_R_Dracula
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After looking at random sites, seeing a random dude that believes any Hypersonic Character would beat liek 95% of the JJBA verse, and even looking at random JJBA fans.
I didn't really realize that FTL JJBA was that contested, FTL speed is like the most believable thing for me when thinking about JJBA Scaling
I didn't really realize that FTL JJBA was that contested, FTL speed is like the most believable thing for me when thinking about JJBA Scaling
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becuz at first it may not seem obvious to the average fan or person. Its only when you just do like 50 centimeters deep worth of scaling research you find all the Lightspeed shit.
Fortunately, all the evidences of FTL Jojo is easier to locate and we have plenty of support from not just the manga itself, but also guidebooks to support FTL Jojo
this is the same guy who was making extremely dishonest examples with Combat Speed and Travel Speed shenanigans. Honestly Jojo should be one of the more believable FTL ones because its their Stands doing all that shit, like sending out a Pokemon to battle.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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wait, you know who I was talking about.
anyways fr, ive seen people sent the scan of Kars Blocking the UV ray to him and he still would try to argue it's not ftl
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I’m not gonna lie, while it is consistent in a powerscaling sense, it’s somewhat understandable why the lay-jojo fan doesn’t get it. It never is put at the forefront, and when it is Araki used confusing wording to get it across. Plus you have to accept the fact that even despite things like Pol’s feat, there’s the fact that characters don’t scale to their own stands, which can make things even more confusing. To most people, hearing FTL jojo doesn’t make sense when characters only reach subsonic level movement speed at best.
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4 letters to counter any of these people
RHCP
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he's like, the reason why part 4 ISNT ftl bro
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Bro, under very specific conditions can he surpass RHCP. 99% of the time he's slower, also because of RHCP.
And it's JUST him, every other character is sub lightspeed in part 4 excluding jotaro and rohan. Koichi, Okuyasu, Kira, etc. All sublight, and all because of RHCP.
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makes sense, ty
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