Curse of the Deep Seas | Deep Sea King vs Yuji Itadori and Yuta Okkotsu (0-8-0) GRACE

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

Rules:

• Fight takes place in Shibuya Ward
• In-character
• Shinjuku Showdown Yuji and Yuta
• Deep Sea King starts Dry, but rain will start to fall in 20 minutes
• Speed is not equalized
• No foreknowledge

Deep Sea King: 0
The lads: 8 (Bimbitesthedust, Tony_di_bugalu, Anonymous_Learner, Buraqibear, Insert_creative_name_here_12, DailyFairy, Mommyleona, MintyBoi1)
Inconclusive: 0

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

following

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Rules:

• Fight takes place in Shibuya Ward
• In-character
• Shinjuku Showdown Yuji and Yuta
• Deep Sea King starts Dry, but rain will start to fall in 20 minutes
• Speed equalized
• No foreknowledge

Deep Sea King: 0
The lads: 0
Inconclusive: 0

ok so what is the ap value of deep sea king?

regen and acid spit is gonna make him harder to fight against but he generally is just a monster that fights like a brawler iirc

 

[Recon1511]

following

 

[Kachon123]

Speed should be unequalized

 

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

Speed should be unequalized

Should it? He’d be like three or four times as fast as them and he’s already stronger in Dry (7.39 kilotons vs over 11.6 kilotons)

 

[LaserPrecision]

That and Deep Sea King also gets faster upon being hydrated, so the speed diff would grow even larger.

 

[Kachon123]

Balanced by the fact that it's 2 people that deal soul damage with each attack.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Balanced by the fact that it's 2 people that deal soul damage with each attack.

Yuta can't deal damage to the soul

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Yuta can't deal damage to the soul

he does have duraneg but yeah no soul manip

 

[LaserPrecision]

he does have duraneg but yeah no soul manip

I'm somewhat skeptical of Uro's technique being dura-neg when it didn't blow a hole clean through Sukuna and just causing some damage when used. Seems more like statistics reduction or smth to me but

 

[Arkansalter2]

ok so what is the ap value of deep sea king?

Upscales from 11.6 KT coming from PPP. Further upscales when wet.

 

[AthelChan]

the deep is calling....

 

[LaserPrecision]

Upscales from 11.6 KT coming from PPP. Further upscales when wet.

When wet is crazy phrasing icl

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Domain expansion gg?

 

[Arkansalter2]

When wet is crazy phrasing icl

 

[AthelChan]

When wet is crazy phrasing icl

hes a pasta noodle uncooked until hes not

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Upscales from 11.6 KT coming from PPP. Further upscales when wet.

ok so its a 1.5x advantage for the king, and it scales higher but we dont know how much when hes wet (pause)

yeah speed might need to be unequalized cause the ap advantage is barely much and given that both Yuji and Yuta should have stuff like damage reduction to help mitigate damage, its not as big

Additionally for Yuji and Yuta, CE passives and the many abilities ranging from soul hax to summoning Rika to domain, etc will just rattle em

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

if speed is unequalized, Deep Sea King has an advantage of around 5.76x faster than their combat and only around 1.78x faster than their reaction

Acid Spit might be the hardest part but I do remember him generally going for h2h first and brute forcing it before utilizing the spit so Yuta and Yuji could get stuff like domain ready once they realize that the guy is fast. King obv isnt gonna know what a domain is and will be caught by it, which either leads to stuff like Yuta's domain or Yuji's which will rattle him w soul manip or the barrage of random CT's that Yuta has robbed from many sorcerers and curse users

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Acid Spit might be the hardest part

Acid spit is noted to be extremly slow and he only uses it to distract enemies (uses it in a normal person and make you take it instead)

It is more plausible for them to open a domain before Deep even think about using it

 

[LaserPrecision]

Pretty sure if speed is unequalized Deep Sea King punches them both to death before they can even consider opening their domain. 5x faster is a HUGE advantage when you are also already stronger and have acid spit. They're gonna get muda'd.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

5x faster is a HUGE advantage

Their reactions are only 1.7x slower, and then they just need to make a hand sign to basically win

 

[LaserPrecision]

Their reactions are only 1.7x slower, and then they just need to make a hand sign to basically win

Yeah, but they aren't going to open up with a Domain. Deep Sea King is going to jump in, and start pulverizing them both with punches. And they won't be able to make said hand gestures when getting showered with flurries of punches that are going to splatter them.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yeah, but they aren't going to open up with a Domain

How so? Sorcerers don't fear to use domains at all. If they see that Deep is insanely faster and physically stronger they WILL open it

and start pulverizing them both with punches.

He lacks any kind of AP diff to allow him to do that, specially when both have RCT, plus Yuta with Rika, who is basically a invulnerable and invisible third fighter with higher LS than deep

 

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

Yeah i’m gonna go ahead and unequalize speed, if everyone’s discussing it as that.

 

[LaserPrecision]

He lacks any kind of AP diff to allow him to do that, specially when both have RCT, plus Yuta with Rika, who is basically a invulnerable and invisible third fighter with higher LS than deep

Not immediately, but if they're getting showered with dozens of punches they can't even fight back against, they're going to have their bones quickly shattered and be quickly concussed.

If you think they can handle unequalized speed, but have fun arguing with Kachon about DSK losing with a 5x speed advantage

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

, plus Yuta with Rika, who is basically a invulnerable and invisible third fighter with higher LS than deep

Rika does have about 44x higher LS than Deep, so she can just do this

Deep won't be capable to sense her, see her, nor even DAMAGE her. He will be immobilized for good

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Pretty sure if speed is unequalized Deep Sea King punches them both to death before they can even consider opening their domain. 5x faster is a HUGE advantage when you are also already stronger and have acid spit. They're gonna get muda'd.

the 5x is based on combat (I.E punching and hitting)

the 1.7x in speed disdvanatage in regarding to Reaction helps them a bit more but its still slower than the deep sea Kings speed

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Rika does have about 44x higher LS than Deep, so she can just do this

Deep won't be capable to sense her, see her, nor even DAMAGE her. He will be immobilized for good

wait isnt the DSK in Class M?

what are the LS values?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

what are the LS values?

Deep scales above 2800640.24Kg, while Rika scales above 125959279.5Kg

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Deep scales above 2800640.24Kg, while Rika scales above 125959279.5Kg

Rika might actually just plat tear bro

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

putting my vote for Yuji and Yuta

They have a good amount in their kits to handle the DSK despite their varying speed disadvantages and the CE passives might actually be a good counter for the time limit

Since if they get a hit in, The Curse Manip and Pain Manip will become a timer so the funniest case scenario is that the DSK gets wet and then proceeds to die from the pain and curse manip

whilst the speed advantage is good for DSK, his ap and lack of abilities for combat outside of acidic spit and just brute force just isnt cut out

also domain diff, etc

 

[Kachon123]

Deep scales above 2800640.24Kg, while Rika scales above 125959279.5Kg

His profile is pretty bad and outdated. He scales to this. King has a 114.874057x advantage here.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

His profile is pretty bad and outdated. He scales to this. King has a 114.874057x advantage here.

why tf are you scaling a wave to his physical LS

 

[Kachon123]

why tf are you scaling a wave to his physical LS

The wave was created as a result of swimming. Physically of course lol

 

[Robo432343]

His profile is pretty bad and outdated. He scales to this. King has a 114.874057x advantage here.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The wave was created as a result of swimming. Physically of course lol

Created by multiple sea creatures, you mean

Either way, you would need to create a CRT. This calc is not even in the verse page. If we decide to pick not used calcs, gotta use Class G Choso (Arkenis forgot about acceleration)

 

[Kachon123]

Lifting strength isn't the end-all-be-all. It's mostly only relevant for his Moray Eel or when Hydrated. The latter can only happen 20+ minutes after the battle begins.

 

[Kachon123]

Created by multiple sea creatures, you mean

Either way, you would need to create a CRT. This calc is not even in the verse page. If we decide to pick not used calcs, gotta use Class G Choso (Arkenis forgot about acceleration)

It was accepted in a CRT. Like I said, his profile is old and outdated.

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

It was accepted in a CRT. Like I said, his profile is old and outdated.

so how long until his profile is updated?

also does the ap and speed change or is it just LS?