Semi Mini Demon Slayer CRT Part 5 (Ninja Mice Edition)

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Tengen gets his Muscle Ninja Mice as either standard or optional equipment (yes im serious)




Sanemi and Obanai gets a Mid Hashira Training arc key where they scale to Base Muichiro's stats for being comparable to a Base Muichiro in a 1 Vs 2

Post Rehab Base Tanjiro should scale 10x below his listed AP, durability, and lifting strength value from Marked due to the accepted 10x multiplier on his profile
All those who scale to Post Rehab Tanjiro's base in the accepted current scale chain will scale to it such as Pre Infinity Fortress Kanao, Entertainment District Nezuko, Post Rehab Zenitsu, Inosuke and Daki
All of them would downscale their value due to Marked Tanjiro being raged amped and was injured as well when he decapitated Gyutaro

Post Yoriichi Type Zero Base Tanjiro would scale fully to the value as he trained and surpassed all Muzan's reports of Post Rehab Base Tanjiro
All those who scale to Post Yoriichi Type Zero Base Tanjiro in the current accepted scale chain will scale to it fully as well (Emotion Clones, Genya, Swordsmith Village Nezuko)

Post Hashira Training Zenitsu would scale to Sub Relativistic via 7th form due to blitzing a 4th Drug and heavily weakened Muzan while injured. 4th Drug Muzan kept up with Sunrise Countdown Tanjiro who is also listed as the same speed value as well. He also badly blitzed Kaigaku who is MHS +

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Post Hashira Training Kanao would also scale to Sub Relativistic with Vermillion due to being capable of perceiving a weakened Douma's blood demon art as a snail and even injected a drug into Demon King Tanjiro who fought evenly with Marked Giyu

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Obanai gets a near death amp and Muichiro gets a Death Amp listed like how Rengoku and Shinobu got one. Muichiro got stronger and turned his blade red pure gripping strength when he was on the verge of death when he got SPLICED in half. Obanai compares himself to Muichiro's situation when he was put into a near death situation and unlocked the demon slayer mark as well as turning his blade red with pure gripping strength. Something that none of the other Hashiras have accomplished without being in a death amp situation.

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Currently Transparent World Muichiro's rating is this
even higher with Transparent World (Dodged many of Kokushibo's serious attacks which blitzed him in his casual state and even landed a hit on him)
This is a mistake and doesn't match the current accepted justification. He should be Relativistic for being capable of keeping up with Kokushibo.

Spoiler: Movie Spoiler: Yushiro's BDA

All users of Yushiro's Blood Demon Art Talismans will have access to
Extrasensory Perception Power Reading and Life Detection due to a new ability revealed of power sensing the twelve kizuki. They also get Enhanced Senses (Enhanced vision and aura vision) for having shared sighting with the crows and viewing the aura of demons

Yushiro's Blood Demon Art

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Spoiler: Movie 1 Kaigaku

Kaigaku should get Afterimage creation via Thunder Breathing Third Form (Time Stamp 2:33). Kaigaku's speed justification should be updated to (Kept up with Zenitsu's Thunder Clap and Flash and Thunder Clap and Flash: Eight Fold. Pressured Zenitsu the entire fight) (Time stamp: 2:51)

Agree: @Vietthai96 @DarkDragonMedeus @Imaginym

Disagree:

 

[Machmatej]

Tengen gets his Muscle Ninja Mice as either standard or optional equipment (yes im serious)

The muscle mice wouldn't contribute to anything at all, but for the hell of it, I agree with them being optional equipment (since it's not like he can summon them like Muzan summons demons)

Sanemi and Obanai gets a Mid Hashira Training arc key where they scale to Base Muichiro's stats for being comparable to a Base Muichiro in a 1 Vs 2

Considering base Sanemi was blatantly outperforming a Marked Muichiro in the Kokushibo fight, I think it's fair to to make a separate key, because otherwise stronger characters would have to be downscaled. I agree.

Post Rehab Base Tanjiro should scale 10x below his listed AP, durability, and lifting strength value due to the accepted 10x multiplier on his profile
All those who scale to Post Rehab Tanjiro's base in the accepted current scale chain will scale to it such as Pre Infinity Fortress Kanao, Entertainment District Nezuko, Post Rehab Zenitsu, Inosuke and Daki
All of them would downscale their value due to Marked Tanjiro being raged amped and was injured as well when he decapitated Gyutaro

It makes no sense for base Tanjiro to be Building level, but a 10x multiplier making him Town level, so yes I will agree to this.

Post Yoriichi Type Zero Base Tanjiro would scale fully to the value as he trained and surpassed all Muzan's reports of Post Rehab Base Tanjiro
All those who scale to Post Yoriichi Type Zero Base Tanjiro in the accepted current scale will scale to it fully as well (Emotion Clones, Genya, Swordsmith Village Nezuko)

Neutral about this one, considering Tanjiro didn't use a technique to fight Yoriichi Type Zero. But since the breathing styles aren't accepted as massive amps, I'm leaning towards agree.

Obanai gets a near death amp and Muichiro gets a Death Amp listed like how Rengoku and Shinobu got one. Muichiro got stronger and turned his blade red pure gripping strength when he was on the verge of death when he got SPLICED in half. Obanai compares himself to Muichiro's situation when he was put into a near death situation and unlocked the demon slayer mark as well as turning his blade red with pure gripping strength. Something that none of the other Hashiras have accomplished without being in a death amp situation.

I'm the one who proposed this, so I will of course agree.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Neutral about this one, considering Tanjiro didn't use a technique to fight Yoriichi Type Zero. But since the breathing styles aren't accepted as massive amps, I'm leaning towards agree.

He surpassed all his reports that Muzan told Hantengu. Tanjiro went from being crippled from using sun breathing in RLD and spammed it the entire arc without using water breathing once that arc. It would make sense for him to scale to the full 10x downscale instead of downscaling even more ontop of 10x in the RLD arc.

 

[Epyriel]

Tengen gets his Muscle Ninja Mice as either standard or optional equipment (yes im serious)

Sure, I guess.

Sanemi and Obanai gets a Mid Hashira Training arc key where they scale to Base Muichiro's stats for being comparable to a Base Muichiro in a 1 Vs 2

Disagree with this as creating an entire key that is entirely dependent on a single sparring match where it is ambiguous how much if at all any of the combatants are holding back for the sake of training, and thus lacks sufficient data for a meaningful key.

Post Rehab Base Tanjiro should scale 10x below his listed AP, durability, and lifting strength value due to the accepted 10x multiplier on his profile
All those who scale to Post Rehab Tanjiro's base in the accepted current scale chain will scale to it such as Pre Infinity Fortress Kanao, Entertainment District Nezuko, Post Rehab Zenitsu, Inosuke and Daki
All of them would downscale their value due to Marked Tanjiro being raged amped and was injured as well when he decapitated Gyutaro

Neutral on this thanks to the rage amp possibly accounting for the difference.

Post Yoriichi Type Zero Base Tanjiro would scale fully to the value as he trained and surpassed all Muzan's reports of Post Rehab Base Tanjiro
All those who scale to Post Yoriichi Type Zero Base Tanjiro in the accepted current scale will scale to it fully as well (Emotion Clones, Genya, Swordsmith Village Nezuko)

Assuming the other section is passed, this is fine.

Obanai gets a near death amp and Muichiro gets a Death Amp listed like how Rengoku and Shinobu got one. Muichiro got stronger and turned his blade red pure gripping strength when he was on the verge of death when he got SPLICED in half. Obanai compares himself to Muichiro's situation when he was put into a near death situation and unlocked the demon slayer mark as well as turning his blade red with pure gripping strength. Something that none of the other Hashiras have accomplished without being in a death amp situation.

This is fine for adding a similar ability section for ‘Awakened Power’ for both, but for Obanai it isn’t distinguishable enough of an effect as distinct from simply acquiring the benefits of the Mark to have distinct sections within his page statistics in contrast to the night and day effects seen in Rengoku and Shinobu who were actually brought to the verge of death. But Muichiro should be fine to have the same division within his statistics section since he did actually get distinguishably empowered after getting literally bisected.

 

[Machmatej]

This is fine for adding a similar ability section for ‘Awakened Power’ for both, but for Obanai it isn’t distinguishable enough of an effect as distinct from simply acquiring the benefits of the Mark to have distinct sections within his page statistics in contrast to the night and day effects seen in Rengoku and Shinobu who were actually brought to the verge of death.

Call it whatever you want, near death amp or not, it is still a powerful amp that he needed to unlock the red blade and/or demon slayer mark.

 

[Machmatej]

Post Hashira Training Zenitsu would scale to Sub Relativistic due to blitzing a 4th Drug and heavily weakened Muzan while injured. The same Muzan kept up with Sunrise Countdown Tanjiro who is also listed as the same speed value as well.

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Post Hashira Training Kanao would also scale to Sub Relativistic due to being capable of perceiving a weakened Douma's blood demon art as a snail and even injected a drug into Demon King Tanjiro who fought evenly with Marked Giyu

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Also my proposals. Obviously I agree

 

[KnyRaizn]

Tengen gets his Muscle Ninja Mice as either standard or optional equipment (yes im serious)

Lol, I agree

Sanemi and Obanai gets a Mid Hashira Training arc key where they scale to Base Muichiro's stats for being comparable to a Base Muichiro in a 1 Vs 2
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Valid, for the same reasoning also base Gyiu scale to them via being rel to Sanemi.

Post Hashira Training Zenitsu would scale to Sub Relativistic due to blitzing a 4th Drug and heavily weakened Muzan while injured. 4th Drug Muzan kept up with Sunrise Countdown Tanjiro who is also listed as the same speed value as well.

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Better change the motivations, him blitzing kaigaku is okay. that muzan is much weaker than the one who fought Tanjiro, he even felt tired.
i'll agree with the rest

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

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Updated OP again

 

[Vietthai96]

Can someone make a TLDR for me?

 

[Machmatej]

Can someone make a TLDR for me?

• Tengen gets to use muscle mice in fights (added as optional equipment)
• A new key will be made for Sanemi and Obanai to explain the sudden power increase they get between arcs
• Base unmarked Tanjiro and characters who scale to him will downscale 10x marked Tanjiro (The demon slayer mark is accepted to be a 10x stats multiplier)
• Zenitsu and Kanao get the Sub-Relativistic rating for blitzing characters who should massively upscale the MHS+ feat they currently scale to (though only for their fastest techniques and not in base)
• Obanai and Muichiro get Awakened Power added to their profile and justifications, since they need that amp to unlock other things like the Red Blade (already used on other profiles)
• Yushiro and Kaigaku get abilities that were shown in the movie (Anime is already accepted as canon)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

• Zenitsu and Kanao get the Sub-Relativistic rating for blitzing characters who should massively upscale the MHS+ feat they currently scale to

To clarify, Kanao's perception perceived a Sub Rel, likely higher weakened Doma as snail speed and landed a drug onto a Sub Rel Demon king Tanjiro

Zenitsu blitzed an MHS + Kaigaku and a weakened Muzan (Muzan at full condition is relativistic but should be sub rel for keeping up with tanjiro while weakned who is Sub Rel)

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Can someone make a TLDR for me?

Wait do you mean like the mini contentions?

Better change the motivations, him blitzing kaigaku is okay. that muzan is much weaker than the one who fought Tanjiro, he even felt tired.
i'll agree with the rest

I forgot to add him badly blitzing kaigaku the MHS + character as well. Added it to the justification

 

[Epyriel]

Spoiler: Movie Spoiler: Yushiro's BDA

All users of Yushiro's Blood Demon Art Talismans will have access to
Extrasensory Perception Power Reading and Life Detection due to a new ability revealed of power sensing the twelve kizuki. They also get Enhanced Senses (Enhanced vision and aura vision) for having shared sighting with the crows and viewing the aura of demons

Yushiro's Blood Demon Art

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Spoiler: Movie 1 Kaigaku

Kaigaku should get Afterimage creation via Thunder Breathing Third Form (Time Stamp 2:33). Kaigaku's speed justification should be updated to (Kept up with Zenitsu's Thunder Clap and Flash and Thunder Clap and Flash: Eight Fold. Pressured Zenitsu the entire fight) (Time stamp: 2:51)

Both of these are fine.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

This is what you call a mini CRT?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

This is what you call a mini CRT?

Yes

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Bump

 

[Vietthai96]

Tengen gets to use muscle mice in fights (added as optional equipment)

Fine i guess

A new key will be made for Sanemi and Obanai to explain the sudden power increase they get between arcs

Fine

Base unmarked Tanjiro and characters who scale to him will downscale 10x marked Tanjiro (The demon slayer mark is accepted to be a 10x stats multiplier)

Okay then

Zenitsu and Kanao get the Sub-Relativistic rating for blitzing characters who should massively upscale the MHS+ feat they currently scale to (though only for their fastest techniques and not in base)

Reason?, simply massively upscale from MHS+ doesn't mean you get into Sub-Relativistics, since "massively upscale" is just vague word, not concrete multiplier to multiplying MHS+ to Sub-Relativistics

Obanai and Muichiro get Awakened Power added to their profile and justifications, since they need that amp to unlock other things like the Red Blade (already used on other profiles)

Why? And what Amp?

Yushiro and Kaigaku get abilities that were shown in the movie (Anime is already accepted as canon)

Fine

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Reason?, simply massively upscale from MHS+ doesn't mean you get into Sub-Relativistics, since "massively upscale" is just vague word, not concrete multiplier to multiplying MHS+ to Sub-Relativistics

Him badly blitzing an MHS + character was just part of the reasoning. Another reason was that he blitzed a weakened Muzan who is listed as Relativistic on his profile but should be around Sub Rel while weakened due to keeping up with a Sub Rel Sunrise Countdown Tanjiro. This would only apply to Zenitsu's 7th form

Kanao's vermillion eyes perceived weakened Douma's blood demon art in snail speed. Douma's is listed as At least Sub-Relativistic, likely higher. Her vermillion eyes also allowed her to land a drug onto Demon King Tanjiro who is Sub Rel as well.

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Why? And what Amp?

Muichiro would get a Death Amp for getting stronger and unlocking the Red Blade via pure gripping strength despite getting GO/JOd in half. Obanai would be in a similar boat since he compared his situation directly to a spliced Muichiro getting stronger so he either gets a "near death amp" or a P&A listed for it. This is similar to how Rengoku and Shinobu have death amps.

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Currently Transparent World Muichiro's rating is this
even higher with Transparent World (Dodged many of Kokushibo's serious attacks which blitzed him in his casual state and even landed a hit on him)
This is a mistake and doesn't match the current accepted justification. He should be Relativistic in transparent world for being capable of keeping up with Kokushibo.

Also is this fine? This is a quick addition after the question I asked you earlier to fix an incorrect rating.

 

[Vietthai96]

Him badly blitzing an MHS + character was just part of the reasoning. Another reason was that he blitzed a weakened Muzan who is listed as Relativistic on his profile but should be around Sub Rel while weakened due to keeping up with a Sub Rel Sunrise Countdown Tanjiro. This would only apply to Zenitsu's 7th form

Oke then

Kanao's vermillion eyes perceived weakened Douma's blood demon art in snail speed. Douma's is listed as At least Sub-Relativistic, likely higher. Her vermillion eyes also allowed her to land a drug onto Demon King Tanjiro who is Sub Rel as well.

Oke then

Muichiro would get a Death Amp for getting stronger and unlocking the Red Blade via pure gripping strength despite getting GO/JOd in half. Obanai would be in a similar boat since he compared his situation directly to a spliced Muichiro getting stronger so he either gets a "near death amp" or a P&A listed for it. This is similar to how Rengoku and Shinobu have death amps.

Oke then

Also is this fine? This is a quick addition after the question I asked you earlier to fix an incorrect rating.

Oke then

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good to me

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Bump

 

[Imaginym]

I was asked to comment here.
Though I am somewhat familiar with the franchise, I don't know Demon Slayer's scaling that well, but I'll trust the judgement of Vietthai96 & DarkDragonMedeus, so I'll give tentative approval. If any issues or points of contention are of note, though, please bring them up to me, as those may be a basis to change my stance.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I was asked to comment here.
Though I am somewhat familiar with the franchise, I don't know Demon Slayer's scaling that well, but I'll trust the judgement of Vietthai96 & DarkDragonMedeus, so I'll give tentative approval. If any issues or points of contention are of note, though, please bring them up to me, as those may be a basis to change my stance.

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if i remember correctly then all of @Vietthai96 contentions were solved here

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Changes have been applied. Crt can be closed now.

 

[Vietthai96]

Closing