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Meliodas vs Monkey D. Luffy [19-2-0]

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Luffy FRA
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Yeah no

"I have npi" doesn't mean s*** unless said NPI has been shown to interact with auras, this is and always was how npi has worked.

And regarding the rubber vs EE situation you would have to prove Luffy can first touch it without getting EE'd first or prove his transmutation somehow works that way otherwise we assume it simply doesn't

Going with meliodas FRA
 
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Delusionaltx2 said:
Yeah no

"I have npi" doesn't mean s*** unless said NPI has been shown to interact with auras, this is and always was how npi has worked.

And regarding the rubber vs EE situation you would have to prove Luffy can first touch it without getting EE'd first or prove his transmutation somehow works that way otherwise we assume it simply doesn't

Going with meliodas FRA
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Fr every verse needs showings except OP it’s the only verse that can get 7 Layers and bs wanks on every hax without any feats and keep getting away with it

Even their Heat resistance scaling chain is trash their baseline for lightning Heat is Ener’s fake lightnings…
 
Makai641001 said:
Fr every verse needs showings except OP it’s the only verse that can get 7 Layers and bs wanks on every hax without any feats and keep getting away with it
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We might low-key need revisions
Makai641001 said:
Even their Heat resistance scaling chain is trash their baseline for lightning Heat is Ener’s fake lightnings…
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Pretty sure dfs have stuff somewhere that says their natural so idk about calling his lightning fake but I do agree one piece scaling can get outta hand sometimes like here for example

Anyways as I'm reading this I personally think true magic meli never should have should have joined this convo and we should have kept it to post purgatory (I believe that was what was used before)

We can't sit here and say "yes Luffy will charge a big a** punch while meliodas will ready a big a** aoe blast with EE" and somehow say "yes, Luffy can just dodge that with kenbun" how? He's charging an attack? He has to deflate first?
 
Makai641001 said:
Fr every verse needs showings except OP it’s the only verse that can get 7 Layers and bs wanks on every hax without any feats and keep getting away with it

Even their Heat resistance scaling chain is trash their baseline for lightning Heat is Ener’s fake lightnings…
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Do not worry, I change my vote for Meliodas FRA
 
Delusionaltx2 said:
We might low-key need revisions
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We do lol
Delusionaltx2 said:
Pretty sure dfs have stuff somewhere that says their natural so idk about calling his lightning fake but I do agree one piece scaling can get outta hand sometimes like here for example
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Logias are natural elements, though in order to qualify for Lightning heat it needs to be mid air and actually have a voltage similar to irl lightnings (and prolonged exposure).

Ener lightnings range anywhere between a million and 200 million volts every single mugiwara was knocked by values below or equal to 30 million while touching the ground.

The only one that was hit with it’s full force is Luffy that is litteraly Made out of rubber and can’t be affected by lightning.

Though Ener understood that and heated a gold trident which allowed him to seriously burn Luffy with radiating Heat.

Remember that gold melts at around 1100C and the trident didn’t melt.

You have to wait onigashima for Zoro to resist Big mom’s Lightning Mid air but for a very short time and with injuries.

And even then most of the lightning feats litteraly cook people Alive…
Delusionaltx2 said:
Anyways as I'm reading this I personally think true magic meli never should have should have joined this convo and we should have kept it to post purgatory (I believe that was what was used before)
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It joined the convo cause they overly wanked EVERYTHING and stated that « Luffy is beating the brakes out of Meliodas » arguing for a stomp as if Luffy could do shit against Meliodas prime.

So we had to stop restricting Meliodas

Meliodas with Darkness AOE attacks has 3 Layers of deconstruction.

Destroyer type enchantments that would give him a one shot gap etc…

Delusionaltx2 said:
We can't sit here and say "yes Luffy will charge a big a** punch while meliodas will ready a big a** aoe blast with EE" and somehow say "yes, Luffy can just dodge that with kenbun" how? He's charging an attack? He has to deflate first?
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That s what I said Luffy getting bigger will just make him an even easier target.
 
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Makai641001 said:
Logias are natural elements, though in order to qualify for Lightning heat it needs to be mid air and actually have a voltage similar to irl lightnings (and prolonged exposure).
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and zoro took the shit mid-air...? without touching the ground. Prolonged, too.

this is a worse hill to die on than "haki layers are illegitimate"
 
Gamecooob said:
and zoro took the shit mid-air...? without touching the ground. Prolonged, too.

this is a worse hill to die on than "haki layers are illegitimate"
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Here it’s not prolonged exposure.

This lvl of heat resistance is far below what Gilthunder can resist…
 
Gamecooob said:
yea its from Enel

refer to Zoro taking the lightning mid-air in Skypeia, wherein he also has smoke coming out of his body afterwards
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Do you realise that he was hit by at most 30 million volts…

Logias are natural elements, though in order to qualify for Lightning heat it needs to be mid air and actually have a voltage similar to irl lightnings (and prolonged exposure).

Ener lightnings range anywhere between a million and 200 million volts every single mugiwara was knocked by values below or equal to 30 million while touching the ground.
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Once again i already talked about this
 
Gamecooob said:
thats not where we get the 28K C from... brainstorm for a bit, where could we have gotten this value from?
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Ik it's from enel but that doesn't change what makkai said about the anti feats presented from the strawhats being fried from lower temperatures along with the fact that the lightning has to be taken in a way that doesn't allow it to be conducted by the ground or any other external factors
 
Gamecooob said:
dawg the volts don't matter...

Null the volt statements, please... even a regular Taser uses 50K volts

Oda just doesn't know jack **** about how voltage works
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Oda does know jack shit about how it works else he wouldn’t grant a varie to his character with Power and heat correlations…

Also this is on Ener’s page:

  • 1, 5 Million, 10, 20, 30, 50, 60 Million, 100, Max 200 Million Volt Vari (Electrical Discharge):Enel releases various levels of his electric energy, eventually becoming a living body of lightning. The maximum-power attack, 200 Million Volts, is about the same voltage as a usual bolt of lightning.
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We ackowledge the fact that only his max output is similar to real lightning.

Here is Zoro getting fried by the 30M volts while on the ground
 
Gamecooob said:
dawg the volts don't matter...

Null the volt statements, please... even a regular Taser uses 50K volts

Oda just doesn't know jack **** about how voltage works
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How are you gonna say the author is willingly incorporating this into his manga without proper knowledge on the subject in question?

If ur gonna say they scale to tanking millions of bolts and use statements from characters inverse that are literally being written by the author why pull this card and say oda doesn't know how voltage works so stuff like this can be ignored.

This aren't minor nitpicks either this stuff actually does seem like some serious s*** especially if characters are allegedly getting fried by lower temperatures shouldn't it be your responsibility to address the showings he could be talking about?
 
Gamecooob said:
dawg its 8-2 fym "another wincon" wrap it up this started because you brought up OP heat scaling outta nowhere when ranting lol
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In fact it’s 11-2 and I keep going just for y’all to see that Meliodas has other wincons than EE.

+ it’s funny to show how y’all kept wanking for years lying in the faces of everyone.

(Like in the Escanor vs WB thread ahah ^^)
 
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