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HIGH SCHOOL DXD COSMOLOGY DEBUNK (5-B WORLDS)

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Okay, let's see... I'll explain myself better.

Regarding the underworld, I point out that the only concrete evidence we have that the underworld has stars is in the anime, an adaptation that isn't part of the novel canon, as stated by Ishibumi-sensei himself. Canonically, there's no mention of stars in the underworld. What I said in the previous comment is in regards to using your argument. I'm sorry if it wasn't clearly understood.

Using Agreas's argument is... questionable. I honestly don't understand the point. Is Agreas light years away from the planet? Is it thousands of kilometers high? Not right? Even using the anime as a way of knowing where it is, it's an island floating above the planet. It's part of the planet, isn't it? It's like saying that clouds aren't part of planet Earth because they aren't on Earth's soil. It's nonsense.
Don't try to get away from the point by using Agreas.

the point is that the
This basically reveals that the Underworld and Human Realm are the same size and the Earth and the Underworld(surface area/planet) (this time referring to the surface area of the planet itself rather than the whole dimension).
Huh? I don't quite understand this. In the English version, it says the light reaches you, even in the translation by the VSBW translation team, it says it reaches you. I still don't understand your point about why the sky has real stars in his world. The only thing Issei says is that even if it were dark, like a demon, he wouldn't have trouble seeing in the dark, nothing more.
Sorry, it's mistake on my side with different story.

Yet there is no statement that Star is just a projection or fake.

Back to this topic, what does the population have to do with the fact that the Underworld isn't just the planet? Why would Agreas contradict that they aren't planets? I don't understand your point. You're just saying the same thing the thread says in general content, but not explaining why they're more than planets.
Read above.
 
I clearly don't understand the thing the staff will accept upscale in one threads and with same proof that use previously they accepted debunked. Then how should they accept upscale in first place.

Possible answer that the don't read the threads properly and accept almost every things.

I should stop hurting my brain more than this by thinking.
 
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Don't try to get away from the point by using Agreas.

the point is that the
This basically reveals that the Underworld and Human Realm are the same size and the Earth and the Underworld(surface area/planet) (this time referring to the surface area of the planet itself rather than the whole dimension).

Sorry, it's mistake on my side with different story.

Yet there is no statement that Star is just a projection or fake.


Read above.
You yourself used Agreas, saying that it's not part of the planet and that the Underworld, having it in its world, isn't limited to just the planet. I'm responding to that comment alone.

While what you say about the surface is true, the point is that the mentions related to the human world are related to the planet. In fact, there's a quote in Japanese that I'm currently consulting with a VS Battle translator to confirm something.

Returning to the topic of the stars in the sky, it's true. There's nothing that definitely says they're projections, just as there's no evidence to indicate they're real stars. The use of the word "planetarium" serves as a comparison, a place where you see projections of stars and other celestial bodies, but it doesn't end up being conclusive evidence to ensure they're completely real stars. We can't simply fall into Occam's Razor, given that the text's description doesn't imply that the sky has its own stars; on the contrary, the way Issei calls them implies that it's a place to see the stars of the universe itself.
 
Hey @Tom4t0GG789 can you classify the rating of the world's human world, Underworld, ExE and FxF since staff is accepted this third so it's going to be accepted.

I just not interested in argument anymore
 
@Tom4t0GG789 can you classify the rating of the world's human world, Underworld, ExE and FxF since staff is accepted this third so it's going to be accepted.
In a nutshell
Mythological Worlds: 5-B
Dimensional Gap: Unknown size with characteristics of Nonexistent Physiology and Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1) (I just edited it, thanks by the way)
DxD/ExE/FxF: Parallel dimensions, with no further information on their size
 
In a nutshell
Mythological Worlds: 5-B
Dimensional Gap: Unknown size with characteristics of Nonexistent Physiology and Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 1) (I just edited it, thanks by the way)
DxD/ExE/FxF: Parallel dimensions, with no further information on their size
And totality of
 
Hey @Tom4t0GG789 can you classify the rating of the world's human world, Underworld, ExE and FxF since staff is accepted this third so it's going to be accepted.

I just not interested in argument anymore
May not be releated, but, I don't think Evies are actually beings from other dimension..they are responsible of the extinction of life in half of the Universe. Evies are aliens, so are Etouldes, not really just beings from another dimension. So maybe EXE is just another part of the observable Universe, not another dimension necessarely
 
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May not be releated, but, I don't think Evies are actually beings from other dimension..they are responsible of the extinction of life in half of the Universe. Evies are aliens, so are Etouldes, not really just beings from another dimension. So maybe EXE is just another part of the observable Universe, not another dimension necessarely
Is you ever read the dxd light novel, if you than you should know that ExE and FxF is stated parallel world, parallel dimension, another world, as well another dimension
 
Is you ever read the dxd light novel, if you than you should know that ExE and FxF is stated parallel world, parallel dimension, another world, as well another dimension
Still, they ravaged civilizations across the cosmos. So they are also kinda like an intergalactic empire or sum. I guess you can rationalizw it saying the ExE world is a dimension of unknown side located in another part of the Universe, unlike the dimensions like the underworld, heaven, etc that are connected to Earth
 
Nah they are not from DxD cosmos but from outside cosmos with own different laws of physics and concept
Really? I see, the last translated LN volume made it very ambigous, the texts say they are a sci-fi type civilzation that killed half of the organic inhabitants of the DXD cosmos and invaded Etoulde's planet or sum, but that they come from the ExE world beyond the Dimensional gap.
 
Really? I see, the last translated LN volume made it very ambigous, the texts say they are a sci-fi type civilzation that killed half of the organic inhabitants of the DXD cosmos and invaded Etoulde's planet or sum, but that they come from the ExE world beyond the Dimensional gap.
Evie's killed original inhabitants of their world. The world of Evie Etoulde is divided between the Evie and Etoulde, who have been at war with each other since ancient times. The war between the Evie and the Etoulde is ongoing as the Evie have successfully exterminated all other organic life on Evie Etoulde, leaving only the Evie and the Etoulde as the only surviving species of Evie Etoulde. Due to the Malevolent God Melvazoa possessing the power to manipulate his existence as well as time, the conflict between the two groups was at a stalemate. The Evie also began invading and conquering numerous other world such as Fadir Ferdora, as the Devestator Order lead by one of the three Evie deities; Regalzeva, as they set out to massacre all the living beings on it in a slow purge.
 
Evie's killed original inhabitants of their world. The world of Evie Etoulde is divided between the Evie and Etoulde, who have been at war with each other since ancient times. The war between the Evie and the Etoulde is ongoing as the Evie have successfully exterminated all other organic life on Evie Etoulde, leaving only the Evie and the Etoulde as the only surviving species of Evie Etoulde. Due to the Malevolent God Melvazoa possessing the power to manipulate his existence as well as time, the conflict between the two groups was at a stalemate. The Evie also began invading and conquering numerous other world such as Fadir Ferdora, as the Devestator Order lead by one of the three Evie deities; Regalzeva, as they set out to massacre all the living beings on it in a slow purge.
Right, got it, thanks. Got kinda confused when reading Evie's origins in the novel. Tho I always wondered if FxF is indeed just an errant Planet floating in the middle of a blank space that links it with Draconis Deus through the dimensional gap...The author made it seem like it
 
Right, got it, thanks. Got kinda confused when reading Evie's origins in the novel. Tho I always wondered if FxF is indeed just an errant Planet floating in the middle of a blank space that links it with Draconis Deus through the dimensional gap...The author made it seem like it
Nah FxF is parallel world to the DxD and ExE and other world's that has been attacked by Evie's before coming to FxF and DxD their is statement that said parallel universe
 
I haven’t read yet but I cannot agree with anything until you get it officially translated by someone here or another verifiable source.

I’d even argue this thread should be closed until that occurs, since almost all your debunks rely on “proper” translation.
 
I haven’t read yet but I cannot agree with anything until you get it officially translated by someone here or another verifiable source.

I’d even argue this thread should be closed until that occurs, since almost all your debunks rely on “proper” translation.
No need, staff are just agree with MTL
 
And the problem this thread has that parallel universe is taken as planet size without inducing it's size in novel
 
I mean, once again. From what I could tell, all of these arguments are heavily reliant on "correcting translations" and these being MTL is very ironic.
I, and frankly no one else, should speak on this again till it gets fixed (I'd translate it myself, but I have no vested interest in doing that for VSBW)
 
I'd translate it myself, but I have no vested interest in doing that for VSBW)
You are an ethnic Japanese or something?

I'm one aswell, i'm fully 100% Japanese, but when I was young my family moved to Malaysia, so I don't really speak Japanese a lot, but I understand it.

I noticed most Japanese people are very hesitant on translating something for this site
 
You are an ethnic Japanese or something?

I'm one aswell, i'm fully 100% Japanese, but when I was young my family moved to Malaysia, so I don't really speak Japanese a lot, but I understand it.

I noticed most Japanese people are very hesistant on translating something for this site
I'm half, but I have lived in Japan a majority of my life, and I am N2 certified. Currently, I'm overseas for vacation.

Power scaling isn't as popular in Japanese culture, not to the extent that you see it on forum sites like VSBW. Most people just don't want to spend all their time translating on VSBW however, since when you do one, everyone likes to show up and ask you for it.
 
Has this been checked over by our Translation Helpers?
 
Welp with that many agreeing this might as well be closed and move onto any other CRTs that need to be made cough boost cough

EDIT: Wait I forgot this isn’t proof read yet
 
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