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She is at the level of other storm gods, I don't know if she is Skyfather level tho
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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread
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If I remember correctly Storm was described as an "omega mutant among omega mutants", and "the most powerful mutant alive" in her latest issue, and Al Ewing had her significantly damage multiple Dominions at the same time without Eternity's help, while also stating that he severely depowered skyfather Thor, to the point that a few dozen Rigellians or Mister Hyde and the Grey Gargoyle could beat him, according to Ewing's letter page answer because it was too hard to challenge Thor otherwise, which seems insincere given how much Ewing powered-up Storm, Spectrum, Blue Marvel, Loki, Escapade, and Wizkid, among others. Possibly Wiccan as well, but that may have been Gillen. I do not remember it well.
So, given that Dominions are far above skyfather level, presumably so is Storm nowadays.
Ewing even had the Black Panther do better in physical combat against the Hulk than skyfather Thor seemed able to.
So again, he is a great writer and cosmology builder, but I don't like this type of seeming double-standard agenda-driven insincerity.
So, given that Dominions are far above skyfather level, presumably so is Storm nowadays.
Ewing even had the Black Panther do better in physical combat against the Hulk than skyfather Thor seemed able to.
So again, he is a great writer and cosmology builder, but I don't like this type of seeming double-standard agenda-driven insincerity.
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Immortal Thor was a great story, but man the power was inconsistent as heck
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the strongest skyfather who is able to defeat Elder Gods
poor Thor was deceived
fortunately they had a rematch
Thor should stop holding back everytime
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Don't think he has enough appearances yet, and it seems he ain't gonna last long.
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I think @Eseseso was planning something like that.
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Is there a consensus on Marvel's definition for the "speed of thought"? I've encountered the phrase a few times in my readthrough of Thor (from Journey into Mystery 83 to Thor 310 so far) and it typically seems used when the writer wants to express speed far surpassing the speed of light
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In the first appearences of the Leader it is said that the speed of thought surpasses the speed of light
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That could be a good reference! Do you know what issues that was in?
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tales to astonish 73
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Dang, that was perfect. Looks like the speed of thought can cross the known universe instantly in Marvel. Easily MFTL+
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We’re so back.
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Sooner or later everyone is or will be a villain of some kind. All you need is a weird event and you have your own super powersI hope that Marvel will not turn Paul into a clichéd supervillain because of this. It wouldn't suit his personality, as he has not been presented as a deranged lunatic.
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I've already seen theories that he's secretly Hellgate and that this is his villain origin story.
We’re so back.
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Sorry for the double post, but I believe this is in the same issue:
We’re so back.
https://media.**********.net/attach...at=webp&quality=lossless&width=595&height=929
And it turns out the site doesn't like Discord pics apparently.
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Thor (Marvel Comics)
Thor Odinson is the Asgardian god of thunder, a founding member of the Avengers, and the son of Odin, the All-Father of Asgard, and Gaea, the Elder Earth-goddess. Combining the power of both worlds, and armed with his powerful enchanted hammer Mjolnir, Thor is arguably the greatest and mightiest...
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Hey, why exactly was Phoenix Force Thor's feat against the First Firmament and his "High 1-A with Phoenix Fire" rating altogether (which is 1-A after the cosmology split of course) removed from his profile? Was that accepted anywhere in the Yggdrasil/Skyfathers CRT, because the removal looks pretty random?
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That's a great question. He definitely should have access to itThor (Marvel Comics)
Thor Odinson is the Asgardian god of thunder, a founding member of the Avengers, and the son of Odin, the All-Father of Asgard, and Gaea, the Elder Earth-goddess. Combining the power of both worlds, and armed with his powerful enchanted hammer Mjolnir, Thor is arguably the greatest and mightiest...
Hey, why exactly was Phoenix Force Thor's feat against the First Firmament and his "High 1-A with Phoenix Fire" rating altogether (which is 1-A after the cosmology split of course) removed from his profile? Was that accepted anywhere in the Yggdrasil/Skyfathers CRT, because the removal looks pretty random?
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Yes. That seems strange. I think that it should remain.Thor (Marvel Comics)
Thor Odinson is the Asgardian god of thunder, a founding member of the Avengers, and the son of Odin, the All-Father of Asgard, and Gaea, the Elder Earth-goddess. Combining the power of both worlds, and armed with his powerful enchanted hammer Mjolnir, Thor is arguably the greatest and mightiest...
Hey, why exactly was Phoenix Force Thor's feat against the First Firmament and his "High 1-A with Phoenix Fire" rating altogether (which is 1-A after the cosmology split of course) removed from his profile? Was that accepted anywhere in the Yggdrasil/Skyfathers CRT, because the removal looks pretty random?
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#JusticeForPhoenixThor
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I don't know what happened to that. Sorry, I guess at some point I made a mistake when doing my reformatting sandbox. I will have to be much more careful.
If restored, what would it be? Just "higher with Phoenix Flames," or just lumped into the 1-A part of his key? And is it consistent? Like does it make sense for the Universal Phoenix Force to scale to the First Firmament?
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It should honestly just be "1-A with Phoenix Fire" like it was before.
Phoenix Force is a cosmic equal to the Tiger God, who has Multi-Abstract level feats in his Universal Manifestation (so I'd argue both are just "Varies, Usually 1-A, High 1-A at peak"), and there were a couple High 1-A Phoenix Force avatars outside the WHR in old Captain Britain stories.
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Even when not including the DeMatteis cosmology?
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Whoops, meant to say "1-A with Phoenix Fire."
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Should I unlock Thor's page so all of the removed valid information can be restored?
Also, should his "herald of thunder" key be merged into his Odinforce key. It is basically just Odinforce + the power of Silver Surfer, which is a small comparative power-up, and I doubt that the small power-up lasted for long enough to warrant being featured on its own according to our rules anyway.
Also, should his "herald of thunder" key be merged into his Odinforce key. It is basically just Odinforce + the power of Silver Surfer, which is a small comparative power-up, and I doubt that the small power-up lasted for long enough to warrant being featured on its own according to our rules anyway.
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I suppose that make sense.Should I unlock Thor's page so all of the removed valid information can be restored?
Also, should his "herald of thunder" key be merged into his Odinforce key. It is basically just Odinforce + the power of Silver Surfer, which is a small comparative power-up, and I doubt that the small power-up lasted for long enough to warrant being featured on its own according to our rules anyway.
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I disagree honestly. Thor has unique feats in this form that I don't think should scale to his "base" Odinforce form. Logically, Power Cosmic should only be a small amp, but it doesn't always work that way. For example, Power Cosmic amped Iron Man from base human level to Living Tribunal level. Like this Thor, in my opinion, was implied to be relatively close to amped Galactus' power. I don't think we should assume that normal Odinforce Thor could absorb and wield Multiversal Abstract levels of power, because I don't think that Donny Cates writing a flashy new Thor form was considering it to be pretty much the same powers as his normal form.
The power-up lasted only 6 issues (which imo should be enough to qualify for a key, but that's a discussion for another day), but I feel like the power-up's importance to the story is enough to warrant keeping it. Same way we have Rune King key.
Also if we are unlocking the profile anyway can we change "Odinforce Thor" to "All-Father Thor?" I feel like it more accurately represents the story changes, as he isn't wielding the Odinforce, he is now wielding the Thorforce.
The power-up lasted only 6 issues (which imo should be enough to qualify for a key, but that's a discussion for another day), but I feel like the power-up's importance to the story is enough to warrant keeping it. Same way we have Rune King key.
Also if we are unlocking the profile anyway can we change "Odinforce Thor" to "All-Father Thor?" I feel like it more accurately represents the story changes, as he isn't wielding the Odinforce, he is now wielding the Thorforce.
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I agree on both points
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Okay. I suppose that seems to make sense.
So should I unlock Thor's page for you to restore the removed valid information?
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Ok, but just for clarification: will the key look like "Varies from 3-C to Low 1-C normally, 1-A at peak and with God Blast, 1-A with Phoenix Flames" or "Varies from 3-C to Low 1-C normally, 1-A at peak and with God Blast, higher with Phoenix Flames" or "Varies from 3-C to Low 1-C normally, 1-A at peak, with God Blast, and with Phoenix Flames"
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World under doom #6 just came out
Reed Challanges Doom into a argument fight.
Marie Hill somehow "magically" discovered a weakness in Doom's shield to let avengers get in.
As expected Doom was doing evil stuff sacrificing people to fuel powerful magics.
Reed Challanges Doom into a argument fight.
Marie Hill somehow "magically" discovered a weakness in Doom's shield to let avengers get in.
As expected Doom was doing evil stuff sacrificing people to fuel powerful magics.
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I'm gonna be real, if any other character was saying this kind of stuff they'd be seen as a mary sue.
Storm is related to an ancient powerful sorceress, Agamotto, and freaking Oshtur? AND now she's Eternity's chosen champion? Jesus christ man give me a break.
Edit: I mean really. Storm is gonna be fighting something that even threatens the White Hot Room?
Storm is related to an ancient powerful sorceress, Agamotto, and freaking Oshtur? AND now she's Eternity's chosen champion? Jesus christ man give me a break.
Edit: I mean really. Storm is gonna be fighting something that even threatens the White Hot Room?
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I'm gonna be real, if any other character was saying this kind of stuff they'd be seen as a mary sue.
Storm is related to an ancient powerful sorceress, Agamotto, and freaking Oshtur? AND now she's Eternity's chosen champion? Jesus christ man give me a break.
Edit: I mean really. Storm is gonna be fighting something that even threatens the White Hot Room?
I remember the author say they would only treat with the Universal AbstractsI'm gonna be real, if any other character was saying this kind of stuff they'd be seen as a mary sue.
Storm is related to an ancient powerful sorceress, Agamotto, and freaking Oshtur? AND now she's Eternity's chosen champion? Jesus christ man give me a break.
Edit: I mean really. Storm is gonna be fighting something that even threatens the White Hot Room?
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Okay, read the comic, so this confirms that there is a copy of the Multiversal cosmology in every Universe, universal from of the White Hot Room, universal form of the Land of Possibilities and universal form of the House of Ideas. Also, apparently Storm is universal abstract level even without Eternity as she almost kills Infinity and now has to fight Hadad all alone. Seems rightI'm gonna be real, if any other character was saying this kind of stuff they'd be seen as a mary sue.
Storm is related to an ancient powerful sorceress, Agamotto, and freaking Oshtur? AND now she's Eternity's chosen champion? Jesus christ man give me a break.
Edit: I mean really. Storm is gonna be fighting something that even threatens the White Hot Room?
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Is the author statement for everything being a Universal manifestation even reliable at this point? I’ll withhold my judgements since I’m neutral on the issue, but it seems like the intention is straight up for Hadad to be second to the actual One Above All and superior to the gods of various realms in the Mystery. Hasn’t Storm already matched Dominions in Overspace and Opposites to the True Form Phoenix? Then again, she’s still working with the Universal manifestation of Eternity…
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