Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken Discussion Thread 20

[AstraphelNoctis4]

Hmmmm, I wonder whose idea it was....

Anyway, are you planning to go through with it? If so, I might be able to help.

 

[Hayato5652]

Goodmorning/evening people,

Just wanted to make an announcement. So... I got into some trouble irl (my fault) and as a result, might not come online on vsbw anymore. So yeah, this might as well be my last message.

It was a good time scaling here and with you all, good and bad times, sometimes I was excited and got chills, othertimes headaches, but all in all, a good experience. Thank you to everyone who ever supported me or thought well of me. Truly.

With that said, it's possible that I might be able to come online if the trouble is resolved (chances unknown), but in case it's resolved, I'll update you guys within 2 to 3 days. Otherwise, if my account shows no activity for a week, know that, well, this really was my last message.

And no, this isn't some kind of disease or anything, so I'm alive, not dead. Just, I won't come online (on vsbw or discord) if worst comes.

These might not be grand for some potentially final words, but I think this is enough. I have many other things to worry about atm. Stay safe guys, I'm out.

PS. I'm not tired of wiki and saying this as an excuse. No, I'll never get tired of wiki, at least as how things were going right now. If possible, I'd really like to continue talking here for many years to come, discussing, arguing, or whatever, but alas, that might not be possible.

Oh boy...

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Anyway, are you planning to go through with it? If so, I might be able to help.

Not in the near future.

 

[MeiouHades]

From vol 15 and 17 ,there statements saying the subspace is beyond time plus yuuki's statement saying the subspace contents branched worlds ,the subspace should qualify as a 5D construct
But the author said the subspace has its own flow of time,for this reason we have a time axis servicing a 5D space making it 6D
So it should atleast qualify as low complex mult ( 5 tierable dimensions)
Any thoughts?

Not how you qualify for higher dimensions. Please read what I wrote in that thread, I gave three different ways to qualify for it as the wiki accepts them

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

Not how you qualify for higher dimensions. Please read what I wrote in that thread, I gave three different ways to qualify for it as the wiki accepts them

The flow of time in the subspace should be an independent temporal axis since each universe(that is housed within the subspace )has its own temporal axis , they also have independent flow of time that isn't synchronized.
That time axis services the subspace not the otherworlds also this isn't related to that thread

 

[Mizuki67]

一言
たまに暇な日に好きな場面読み返す時色々疑問があるんですけど、この世界ってリムルたちが住んでる星の事を言っているのかその次元に存在する全惑星含めた宇宙の事言ってるのかどっちなんでしょうかね？私気になります(・ω・)
投稿者： QPhage
2015年 03月31日 13時19分
設定
　次元の事を意味して言っています。
　でもなんとなく世界と言わせてます。
伏瀬
2015年 04月06日 19時18分\

User:
Sometimes on my days off, when I reread my favorite scenes, I end up with various questions.
In this world, are they talking about the planet Rimuru and the others live on?
Or are they talking about the entire universe including all the planets that exist within that dimension?
I’m curious. (・ω・)
— Posted by: QPhage
March 31, 2015 13:19

Settings:
It’s referring to the dimension.
But for some reason, I just have them say “world.”
— Fuse
April 6, 2015 19:18

 

[Mizuki67]

so guys, we are back

 

[Doomrider7]

Goodmorning/evening people,

Just wanted to make an announcement. So... I got into some trouble irl (my fault) and as a result, might not come online on vsbw anymore. So yeah, this might as well be my last message.

It was a good time scaling here and with you all, good and bad times, sometimes I was excited and got chills, othertimes headaches, but all in all, a good experience. Thank you to everyone who ever supported me or thought well of me. Truly.

With that said, it's possible that I might be able to come online if the trouble is resolved (chances unknown), but in case it's resolved, I'll update you guys within 2 to 3 days. Otherwise, if my account shows no activity for a week, know that, well, this really was my last message.

And no, this isn't some kind of disease or anything, so I'm alive, not dead. Just, I won't come online (on vsbw or discord) if worst comes.

These might not be grand for some potentially final words, but I think this is enough. I have many other things to worry about atm. Stay safe guys, I'm out.

PS. I'm not tired of wiki and saying this as an excuse. No, I'll never get tired of wiki, at least as how things were going right now. If possible, I'd really like to continue talking here for many years to come, discussing, arguing, or whatever, but alas, that might not be possible.

Well that sucks. Hope all goes well.

 

[MeiouHades]

We just avoided the disaster of Tier 1 Tensura again. This is grounds for celebration.

 

[Wesker018]

We just avoided the disaster of Tier 1 Tensura again. This is grounds for celebration.

i could already feel the matchup that would have been created if that tier 1 had been accepted

 

[Mizuki67]

We just avoided the disaster of Tier 1 Tensura again. This is grounds for celebration.

No idea why he keeps setting us back one thousand years. I am trying to get us to tier 2 which is already difficult, but bro is scouting for tier 1, like chill. Let's get tier 2 first

 

[MeiouHades]

No idea why he keeps setting us back one thousand years. I am trying to get us to tier 2 which is already difficult, but bro is scouting for tier 1, like chill. Let's get tier 2 first

Getting unbanned and immediately gunning for the highest possible tiers, along with the fact that there's already a bit of a lack of evaluating staff, is a horrible practice. No idea what Astral was thinking.

 

[Mizuki67]

Getting unbanned and immediately gunning for the highest possible tiers, along with the fact that there's already a bit of a lack of evaluating staff, is a horrible practice. No idea what Astral was thinking.

Doesn't seem to read the room, that's his only problem. He's a good wanker, no doubt, he could logically make something small and insignificant become a major feat like it counts lol. But he doesn't seem to read the situation we are already in, our threads now come with translation mis-leads which brings about authentication of every translation we use, staffs are currently busy with IRL issues, vsbw itself doesn't really care about tensura because they know whatever we post it's smt that's bs. So yeah he's being a problematic supporter by doing this. If this failed I'm sure he would've be gunning for immeasurable speed and tier 0 veldanava

 

[Ultimuru]

一言
たまに暇な日に好きな場面読み返す時色々疑問があるんですけど、この世界ってリムルたちが住んでる星の事を言っているのかその次元に存在する全惑星含めた宇宙の事言ってるのかどっちなんでしょうかね？私気になります(・ω・)
投稿者： QPhage
2015年 03月31日 13時19分
設定
　次元の事を意味して言っています。
　でもなんとなく世界と言わせてます。
伏瀬
2015年 04月06日 19時18分\

Does he straight up admit that Cardinal World is dimension and not a planet? Or is it for WN?

 

[Mizuki67]

Does he straight up admit that Cardinal World is dimension and not a planet? Or is it for WN?

Author says whenever he says world he means a universe

 

[Ruler_Star_Kuma]

setting us back one thousand years.

This specific line is so funny to me everytime it's said in a context always gets me to laugh

 

[Cloelolo_60021]

一言
たまに暇な日に好きな場面読み返す時色々疑問があるんですけど、この世界ってリムルたちが住んでる星の事を言っているのかその次元に存在する全惑星含めた宇宙の事言ってるのかどっちなんでしょうかね？私気になります(・ω・)
投稿者： QPhage
2015年 03月31日 13時19分
設定
　次元の事を意味して言っています。
　でもなんとなく世界と言わせてます。
伏瀬
2015年 04月06日 19時18分\

Can I Ask for the source

 

[PrimeHydra64]

His comments in the syosetu page might be a treasure trove. For some reason, it's interface is a nightmare to look through.

 

[Lycoris4812]

His comments in the syosetu page might be a treasure trove. For some reason, it's interface is a nightmare to look through.

I thought he didn't comment at all, guess we'll have to take a look.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

He used to but stopped. Though, I am guessing that he will answer questions after the series is done on syosetu.

 

[Lycoris4812]

Bro has an interview of him talking about the DnD movie, thats just so random.

 

[Lycoris4812]

僕は前にメイド喫茶でぼったくられた話を入れようとしたことがあったんですが、編集者に「それ必要ありますか？」と言われて削ったんです。ときに、物語の世界観やキャラクターの気持ちと整合性が取れない形で、自分の思いが出すぎてしまいそうになることがある。

Already found some interesting stuff.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The flow of time in the subspace should be an independent temporal axis since each universe(that is housed within the subspace )has its own temporal axis , they also have independent flow of time that isn't synchronized.
That time axis services the subspace not the otherworlds also this isn't related to that thread

Having a different/independent time flow ≠ Timeline.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

[一言]
この世界最強って、覚醒魔王上位クラスなんだなぁ（＿’

でもリムルとか、あのランクほどはないらしい（。。

• 投稿者： るーじ
• 2015年 05月12日 23時27分

管理
　リムルさんは、どの世界に行っても……。
　いや、異次元世界は広いですね！

• 伏瀬
• 2015年 05月12日 23時43分

Ruuji:


So the strongest in this world are around upper-level Awakened Demon Lord class, huh (＿’
But Rimuru... apparently isn’t quite at that rank (。。


Fuse:


Rimuru-san would be... no matter which world he ended up in...
Well, alternate-dimensional worlds are really broad, aren’t they!

Also, discovered that Fuse was scared of radiation because he traumatised by watching BareFoot Gen (yep, that will do it)

Here is the source for Fuse saying he means dimension when saying world.

転生したらスライムだった件

R15 残酷な描写あり 異世界転生 スライム チート

novelcom.syosetu.com

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

Having a different/independent time flow ≠ Timeline.

The universe within the subspace have different temporal axis,are not bound by causality and time is not synchronized between them in such can you explain why the flow of time within the subspace wouldn't be an independent time axis?

 

[Mizuki67]

Also, discovered that Fuse was scared of radiation because he traumatised by watching BareFoot Gen (yep, that will do it)

Here is the source for Fuse saying he means dimension when saying world.

転生したらスライムだった件

R15 残酷な描写あり 異世界転生 スライム チート

novelcom.syosetu.com

So he legit means universe whenever he says world then.... I guess we are fine to rebunk the series back to tier 2, but I will do this next week as per my exams......maybe tomorrow but idk

 

[Robo432343]

bro what
where does it say he means universe when he says world

 

[PrimeHydra64]

So basically it boils down to:
World=Dimension and Dimension=Alternate/Other Dimensional World. Those Worlds are Directly called Universes in volume 22.

Tbf, in my opinion it is like the earths situation in DC. Where it could mean either planet or the entire universe being referred to as the same name. With Cardinal World being attributed to both the planet and the dimension with context backing it up.

For example, having a dangerous energy that will infinitely grow faster than the speed of light to collapse/annihilate the world does not sound like a planetary feat with the only things in-verse physically moving that fast being cosmic inflation and possibly rimuru's perception speed.

 

[Robo432343]

the worlds are planets not universes

 

[PrimeHydra64]

the worlds are planets not universes

 

[Mizuki67]

it is getting accepted soon that tensura is not a multiverse in that staff thread

You sound like a 2021 DBZ supporter robo, it's either you purposely ignore author comments or you genuinely can't comprehend his comment for whatever reason. This shi is easy to grasp
"Do you mean planet when you mentioned rimuru's world"
"Nah, I mean to say dimension whenever I say world"
It's really that simple brochacho
What thread do you even speak off, I mean not being tier 2 for characters was fine but for the verse is pure illiteracy if this Is real and fighting it would be pointless

 

[Mizuki67]

Anyway, a word of advice from me to all you Tensura fans if you really want Low 1-C. There's this little detail in Astral's blog:

whereas Chloe can time travel not just inside the same World-Line but also to different World-Lines purely due to her Time Travel ability<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...nSura_Cosmology_Explanation_(WN)#cite_note-17"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a>, in other words, travelling in the Dimension's time (5-D).

I even pointed it out in the thread. If you can elaborate more on this, then believe it or not this is almost slam dunk evidence for a different axis of time.

Chloe time travel shenanigans was her either repeating that same timeline or her jumping into new ones and having the old one seize to be, or she jumped to an entirely different universe that branched off the original. We don't have very specific detail on tier 1 so we would let it be for now

 

[Doomrider7]

You sound like a 2021 DBZ supporter robo, it's either you purposely ignore author comments or you genuinely can't comprehend his comment for whatever reason. This shi is easy to grasp
"Do you mean planet when you mentioned rimuru's world"
"Nah, I mean to say dimension whenever I say world"
It's really that simple brochacho
What thread do you even speak off, I mean not being tier 2 for characters was fine but for the verse is pure illiteracy if this Is real and fighting it would be pointless

It's why nobody in powerscaling takes the site seriously at all when it's just a matter of what the mods and admins actually like vs what actually is.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

It's why nobody in powerscaling takes the site seriously at all when it's just a matter of what the mods and admins actually like vs what actually is.

that is cap.

 

[Robo432343]

You sound like a 2021 DBZ supporter robo, it's either you purposely ignore author comments or you genuinely can't comprehend his comment for whatever reason. This shi is easy to grasp
"Do you mean planet when you mentioned rimuru's world"
"Nah, I mean to say dimension whenever I say world"
It's really that simple brochacho
What thread do you even speak off, I mean not being tier 2 for characters was fine but for the verse is pure illiteracy if this Is real and fighting it would be pointless

its your fault you cant even defend tier 2 tensura now the LN characters are 4-C and wn is only Low 2-C lol
also im talking about this thread

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Anyway, a word of advice from me to all you Tensura fans if you really want Low 1-C. There's this little detail in Astral's blog:

whereas Chloe can time travel not just inside the same World-Line but also to different World-Lines purely due to her Time Travel ability<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...nSura_Cosmology_Explanation_(WN)#cite_note-17"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a>, in other words, travelling in the Dimension's time (5-D).

I even pointed it out in the thread. If you can elaborate more on this, then believe it or not this is almost slam dunk evidence for a different axis of time.

We should probally wait until volume 23 is out for any higher stuff (which would probably be in a few months likely October or November) since it might have the largest amount of information about the cosmology and worlds in general.
But thank you for sharing this information, it is appreciated

 

[ZillionZeutron]

It's why nobody in powerscaling takes the site seriously at all when it's just a matter of what the mods and admins actually like vs what actually is.

Are you hearing yourself or what? You’re implying that “no one” takes the site “seriously” because they don’t like a subjective opinion from a mod/admin, yet you say “what actually is” (an opinion from a group of people in a community) as objective. Holy irony LMAO.

Define “objective” and tell me how a tensura goons opinion applies to it. Also, you a reddit user, shouldn’t speak about taking anything seriously.

 

[AstraphelNoctis4]

We should probally wait until volume 23 is out for any higher stuff (which would probably be in a few months likely October or November) since it might have the largest amount of information about the cosmology and worlds in general.
But thank you for sharing this information, it is appreciated

That's WN tho .

 

[PrimeHydra64]

That's WN tho .

Oof. Well same applies to LN with chloe's ability.

 

[Mizuki67]

We should probally wait until volume 23 is out for any higher stuff (which would probably be in a few months likely October or November) since it might have the largest amount of information about the cosmology and worlds in general.
But thank you for sharing this information, it is appreciated

1-A God
2-A rimuru and low 2-C top tiers is all I need rn