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Deactivating Anti-Hypertime annihilation mechanism limiter... | Sonic Cosmology Downgrade Part ?: Hypertimelines
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The fact Iblis minions are there is why it’s time travel, they wouldn’t exist if the timeline was pulled from just a normal area elsewhere in time.
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Because that happens by travelling through time? He would have to travel to Crisis City to do it:
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I mean no, not confirmed that areas that are white are lacking dimensional energy. Stardust bad future is also there and it wasn’t erased but also never had the chance to exist.
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Cool speculation, doesn't adresse that there is one dimension of time.
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Can you stop lying, when he mentioned Crisis city? I already adressed your comment in my big one, yet you kept repeating yourself.
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Crisis city is innately another timeline so that statement won’t make sense to apply to crisis city. It can do more a one thing. It can destroy a timeline and others
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He doesn’t confirm only one dimension of time though. It’s just time is one dimension, it can be a multi-leveled dimension.
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We're inventing terms now aren't we?
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Because he doesn't say there's only one dimension of time. He says that time is one dimension of reality, inferring that Tails is referring to time as an aspect of reality when you actually take it in its context.
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Why would assume that’s what he means though. Occam’s razor means it’s one dimension and other stuff would be a plot hole. Not that time is for some reason multidimensional and just never stated
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Time is JUST one dimension of reality.
No way we're going to define the word just now
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Also this is your interpretation, not what tails said.
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Time Eater's abilities affect all of time and space, it being another timeline doesn't matter? Plus, like JJ said, Crisis City is the 06 version as seen by the fact Iblis is there. It's not the one that would've been if it was in White Space post 06, as Iblis had been sealed away inside Blaze.
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How ironic.
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This doesn’t debunk the idea that hypertime as a separate concept can exist on a higher level and just isn’t mentioned, hypertime is a fanmade term and there are basically no verses that confirm time is multi-dimensional to act as a baseline.
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you missed my point. My point is, the tails statement doesn’t apply to crisis city of him going through the time line destroying everything, because crisis is a different timeline. Sorry for quoting backwards my phone is lagging like crazy.
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So when are you gonna make your summary?
So when are you gonna make your summary?
So when are you gonna make your summary?
So when are you gonna make your summary?
You guys keep flapping your gums at eachother thinking it's working wonders when you're getting exactly NOWHERE
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So what? Timelines function based on a single continuous flow in constant branching. All of space-time encompasses all timelines and the "time" within that space-time is defined as a single axis.
That’s the standard framework.
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It means that at every point along a timeline you can rollback to a previous point and get a new version of the timeline with its own past present and future, that’s a hypertimeline iirc.
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Time Eater destroyed all of time and space. It's on the page.
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The thread is already rejected, I don't NEED to do anything, and I already said I would only do a summary after the opposition does theirs so I know what they are arguing about.
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You are missing my point. The time travel statements of the time eater are referring to a single timeline, for crisis city to be a hyper timeline evidence, it has to be a seperate timeline. But with that we have no statement at all of how he actually got it. Since his time travel is particularly just one timeline
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Already started with a prototype
Deactivating Anti-Hypertime annihilation mechanism limiter... | Sonic Cosmology Downgrade Part ?: Hypertimelines
I am almost certain the blog already did. If it isn't too much of a bother, do you still agree with the OP? Or have the recent arguments involving Time Eater affecting Crisis City change your mind about it? Yes, Time Eater is shown pulling stages across time and space and causing temporal...
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Theuser has suggested the OP to make one first because his claims have been all over and have changed. We've been waiting on that, but OP prefers to appeal to staff repeatedly in order to sway as many as he can.
I haven't been part of the argument for the majority of these pages and the initial bulk of my comments were made in the first 2 pages, primarily dedicated to dismantling the misrepresentation and twisting of arguments. I don't think I can make a good summary beyond my comments.
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Well DDMs vote is mostly neutral now and qawsed is an agree. 1-2-1 isn't very conclusive, especially when tier 1 needs at least 3 agrees vice versa should be 3 disagrees at least. Plus there's no rush to conclude the thread even if it's initially rejected.
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One Dimension of reality
Time is a dimension of reality, Space is also a dimension of reality. Dimension has more than one definition, and the "Of Reality" part I feel is what makes it lean more towards the opposition side than the agreeing side.
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Evidence for the hypertimeline:
1. Time Eater was able to pull a version of the ‘06 timeline prior to the Iblis crisis being resolved into white space, despite the entire Iblis timeline being erased from existence. We know Time Eater did this because the space is a white void and drained of dimensional energy.
2. The encyclospeedia notes that time was “reset” with Sonic and Elise going back in time, despite all of time at that point being destroyed/erased by Solaris, meaning that they had to set a new version of time prior to the destruction of all time as the basis, and since Solaris exists along time itself, it would mean he exists along the highest echelon of time, the end of time, as he was already capable of consuming timelines with ease going off the Japanese dialogue of his body containing “multiple dimensions” and the quotes that he was or had destroyed all of space time. So, the characters likely jumped to an older version of the timeline before its destruction.
Hypertime is defined as having an infinite amount of 4-D snapshots of the timeline, which does line up with how Gerald and numerous other characters and sources point out that each different point in time is its own branched time axis, meaning that there would be an infinite amount of snapshots for one timeline due to time running infinitely as the default. Characters have used this to pull older versions of existing timelines back into the fray, and thus the series meets the standard of hypertime.
I don’t speak for the whole this is just my take.
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Reality here is just referring to things that exist. It's not limiting it to particular universes.
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I'm pretty sure We usually say: "Time is one dimension of reality" and "Space is three dimensions of reality"
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DDM leans to disagree, and even qawsed said the thread was rejected in his last post.
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My point isn’t about how much is destroyed, it’s how he gets there. Tails specifically says with his travel, where he is going, is one timeline. He said the timeline, he’s going through a singular one. Meaning we have no statements about how he got to crisis city or how it was restored. Assuming it is restored and isn’t in a way nonexistent at that timeThey aren't? They are referring to several timelines:
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Based on these, do you still agree with the final conclusions of OP, or do you disagree?
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Leaning to disagree has never been counted as a decisive disagree vote. He should be listed as neutral but leaning to disagree.
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The scan I literally posted shows he travels through multiple, as the stages end up there because of his abilities. He's not travelling through one timeline because ALL of time DOESN'T EXIST anymore.
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Bro, the only staff in favor of the OP is counting as a decisive vote. This is just stalling.
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I'm not stalling you're just in a rush to get the thread closed since it could very well end with votes switching around. Qawsed while he is a staff doesn't get to determine what DDMs vote is.
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