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You're right bro, I may have been a bit rude, I know, but I've also suffered here from much ruder people who have told me I'm stupid. I'm not justifying myself, I'm just saying that they criticize me for being rude but they don't say anything to those who are ruder, but you're right bro, behaving like this is not the solution. I'm going to try to improve my ways of responding, and I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
Thank you for being reasonable, but you need to shape up your behaviour. 🙏
 
Well, other people here should obviously not treat you badly. 🙏
 
Thanks for understanding
Ebihara, I just want you to know that you're right and I recognize my mistake. I accept it, but calling me rude and leaving the others out seems a little unfair to me, but you're right.
 
I know bro, but not just me, but everyone else too. Please, that's all I ask: improve your behavior.
I little introspection here is needed from you. I stand by what i said. When people dont agree with you, you are very rude and ignore what they say or dismiss valid points by saying things people shouldn't use there mouth just cause they have them. You can see by mine and other users comments and actions we have tried to help you. Called staff to stalled CRTS, provided instructions and advice and its just met with stonewalling and general rudeness and for the like 8th time you go behind everyones back and made an edit only to revert it once being called out. People are acting how you treat them. You have burned all good will with me personally and I know i am not alone feeling that. Just stop editing pages without a passes CRT. We shouldn't have to keep having this conversation. There are so many things on this website i disagree with and think the reasonings are bad, but we have rules for a reason as cliche as it sounds.
 
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I little introspection here is needed from you. I stand by what i said. When people dont agree with you, you are very rude and ignore what they say or dismiss valid points by saying things people shouldn't use there mouth just cause they have them. You can see by mine and other users comments and actions we have tried to help you. Called staff to stalled CRTS, provided instructions and advice and its just met with stonewalling and general rudeness and for the like 8th time you go behind everyones back and made an edit only to revert it once being called out. People are acting how you treat them. You have burned all good faith with me personally and I know i am not alone feeling that. Just stop editing pages without a passes CRT. We shouldn't have to keep having this conversation. There are so many things on this website i disagree with and think the reasonings are bad, but we have rules for a reason as cliche as it sounds.
I understand bro, it's better that you know, I suffer from anger issues, of course I'm dealing with this but sometimes I get out of control, I don't justify myself of course I don't just want you to understand me
 
I understand bro, it's better that you know, I suffer from anger issues, of course I'm dealing with this but sometimes I get out of control, I don't justify myself of course I don't just want you to understand me
All good. Best way to show improvement is action. Try to work with others. We all have things we need to work through. Take accountability by not repeating the same mistake again. Everyone CAN be a productive user. This is the last thing I am saying as not to keep spamming this thread.
 
I better clear things up once and for all. The relationship with AceOfSpaces is very complicated. He criticizes me for making changes when he does it even without making threads, and I consider that, as I say without sounding rude, a bit "hypocritical." Here is the proof.
 
A member by the name of Telomara has edited this page without permission, they go to state that it was accepted in a thread however the thread has not been concluded and does not have the necessary amount of staff votes and is still ongoing.
 
To my understanding, Non-Duality and Restoration were already settled in the thread.
They were not. The thread doesn't even have the required amount of staff votes. Not to mention restoration is not even apart of the thread, you're not allowed to make a downgrade or upgrade CRT and add things haphazardly that are literally unrelated to the thread.
 
What do you believe is the required amount of staff votes supposed to be?
You need 3 votes, I've been told this by staff multiple times.
Not to mention restoration is not even apart of the thread, you're not allowed to make a downgrade or upgrade CRT and add things haphazardly that are literally unrelated to the thread.
Also this.
 
Technically, it only pertains to if a T1 character's rating is being revised (I think), though I could see the argument that this should just be any revision that affects a T1 character
 
If it affects a tier 1 character or multiple I have been told by multiple staff that it requires 3 votes.
This is only for "Tier 1 and/or Tier 0 ratings"

"For content revisions that affect Tier 2 or higher, the participation of at least one Administrator in the review and approval process is required."
 
So the abilities and powers of a T1 page is not inherently considered either highly controversial (Unless the abilities themselves are) or a big enough revision for 3 staff? (This is not an attempt to throw shade, it's a genuine question)
 
So the abilities and powers of a T1 page is not inherently considered either highly controversial (Unless the abilities themselves are) or a big enough revision for 3 staff? (This is not an attempt to throw shade, it's a genuine question)
This. I had been told it was the case for tier 1 in general and not just stats but alright.
 
So the abilities and powers of a T1 page is not inherently considered either highly controversial (Unless the abilities themselves are) or a big enough revision for 3 staff? (This is not an attempt to throw shade, it's a genuine question)

That's a judgement of opinion. For me, it was cut and dry.

@Antvasima

Your thoughts on the matter?
 
I see. So as long as the abilities themselves are not controversial in nature, the tier of the page in question does not matter? I'll be honest, I always thought anything involving a T1 page would require 3 staff, no matter what. But it is true that it's not stated that all changes to a T1 page requires 3 staff. Thank you for your answer.
 
I see. So as long as the abilities themselves are not controversial in nature, the tier of the page in question does not matter? I'll be honest, I always thought anything involving a T1 page would require 3 staff, no matter what. But it is true that it's not stated that all changes to a T1 page requires 3 staff. Thank you for your answer.
Allegedly doesn't matter whether the abilities themselves are controversial in nature or not.
 
The edit was mainly a removal of a couple abilities that didn't seem like too controversial of a change. So I think 2 staff members is enough, but I will comment.
 
I think that we have only clearly defined our requirements for the actual tiers of tier 1 characters, as requiring a higher number of staff evaluators, but am not certain. Perhaps that is an overlooked hole in our rules that needs to be filled/better defined?

@Agnaa @AKM sama @DontTalkDT @Mr. Bambu @Damage3245

What do you think? 🙏
 
  • For content revisions that affect Tier 2 or higher, the participation of at least one Administrator in the review and approval process is required.
    • The Administrator(s) should provide their evaluations and input regarding the suggested revision, and their decision will be given significant weight in the final determination of approval.
  • The review and approval of content revisions that affect Tier 1 and/or Tier 0 ratings or that are highly controversial should preferably be conducted by a larger number of staff members in order to ensure that all relevant parties are aware of and agree with the proposed changes. It is essential that these revisions are evaluated by staff members who possess a reasonable level of genuine understanding and expertise in these areas in order to maintain the accuracy and quality of the revised material.
From the context, I believe we have higher standards when things are being moved into/out of Tier 2 and above.

We don't go down to the level of detail on adding/removing abilities which, to some extent, have a potency on that scale.

My preferred treatment would be to look at the rest of the character's arsenal, and determine whether it's a notable difference to that. A character with largely mundane abilities getting Resistance to High 1-B Existence Erasure would merit higher scrutiny, while a 2-B character who already has 20 abilities on that scale getting Lightning Manipulation added because they did it in the background of one scene wouldn't.
 
Please clarify your viewpoints regarding the distinction between the evaluation of high character tiers and the evaluation of the powers and abilities of characters with high tiers. For some reason it did not come across clearly to me. 🙏
 
My preferred treatment would be to look at the rest of the character's arsenal, and determine whether it's a notable difference to that. A character with largely mundane abilities getting Resistance to High 1-B Existence Erasure would merit higher scrutiny, while a 2-B character who already has 20 abilities on that scale getting Lightning Manipulation added because they did it in the background of one scene wouldn't.
For the record, I think this makes sense and would agree to that being the policy.
 
Please clarify your viewpoints regarding the distinction between the evaluation of high character tiers and the evaluation of the powers and abilities of characters with high tiers. For some reason it did not come across clearly to me. 🙏
I think ratings should always face heightened scrutiny, while abilities should face heightened scrutiny when the character has few high-tiered abilities.
 
This shit:

Tell OP to move it to FC/OC
 
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