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Hero of Hell vs Man of Steel (8-3-0)

It doesn't seem like his first move though. Also I wonder how Kryptonian blood might taste for Pochita...

Anyway, Kal-El has superior range plus I think a decent wincon to put Denji down but Denji likely prevails close quarters

I haven't played the Amphoreus portion of HSR is there sunlight there? Pretty important detail for Kal
 
Naito-desu said:
Anyway, Kal-El has superior range plus I think a decent wincon to put Denji down but Denji likely prevails close quarters
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Denji vastly outskills in CQC and that regen is gonna be a problem.
Fallen_Angelicx said:
Freeze him solid. Ice Breath that has decent range.
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Solid Wincon.

This can very much go either way but I'll have to give it to Pochita. Pochita has higher skill than supes and it doesn't seem that Supes has a way aroud the regen. Sure, his LS is like magnitudes above Pochita but Pochita upscales quite a lot from his value while supes doesn't.

Pochita, mid-high diff.
 
GodEarh206 said:
Apparently not, because what lit up Amphoreus wasn't a star.
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Yeah then that puts Kal-El at a notable disadvantage since this iteration and iirc any iteration draws strength from it, so I might lean towards Pochita (realized it was him and not Denji mb)

How does Heat Vision interact with regen? Superman still has the mobility advantage I think and a wincon, but every time Pochita wounds him, it's pretty much strength he can't get back and strength that Pochita regains.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Sure, his LS is like magnitudes above Pochita but Pochita upscales quite a lot from his value while supes doesn't.
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Hell no cuz what's the difference looking like numerically? Because Superman's Class Z isn't restricted- meaning he should have it.
 
Naito-desu said:
Yeah then that puts Kal-El at a notable disadvantage since this iteration and iirc any iteration draws strength from it, so I might lean towards Pochita (realized it was him and not Denji mb)
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Supes doesn't necessarily need the sun to grow stronger, he went from 7-C to high 6-A while sunlight was blocked.
 
Yeah but we're restricting this to 7-C and when he's injured he'll need to rely on it to restore his strength, in contrast with pochita who will maintain his stamina and strength every time he injures Supes
 
Naito-desu said:
Yeah but we're restricting this to 7-C and when he's injured he'll need to rely on it to restore his strength, in contrast with pochita who will maintain his stamina and strength every time he injures Supes
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I was trying to say that supes doesn't need sunlight to use his accelerated development and get stronger troughout the fight, also the stuff i mentioned happened while he was heavily weakened.
 
In my opinion, Superman will have the win-con because he has cold breath as well as AD, which helps him to counter Pochita's regen as well as counter Pochita, he also has superior LS than Pochita, I mean, Class P after promotion. Pochita has the advantage in weapons, regen and immo. Pochita also has superior skills as known from his own opponents. This battle will be like 60/40 in favor of Pochita, I will vote Pochita
 
I'm not talking about it within the context of getting stronger, I'm just saying that it seems like Superman's ability to come back from injuries is more or less finite compared to Chainsaw Man's regeneration that only continues to heal him as he hurts Superman more. Empowerment isn't a factor since Superman is restricted to 7-C anyway.
 
Interesting Matchup
(Looks Inside)
Oh come on another one where only some stats are compared?
Like seriously I'm tired of how often people spam the Speed Equalized condition.
 
Coolified_Gaming said:
Then don't pick a matchup that requires speed equalization to work.
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You should try taking a look at this walmart worker of a profile who's literal main wincon is speedblitz amps if he's the faster character. He couldn't lose without getting stomped until as of recently.
Trust me. Don't be complaining about speed equalized matches as this is not the only match you will see with speed being equalized. Speed being equalized prevents speedblitzes and therefore would not be added to the profiles.
 
Can't supes take the battle to space with his superior LS, (it's in character for him to do that as seen with zod and doomsday) where he would have an insane mobility advantage, that is of course if space exist in Amphoreus.
 
Somewhat related to the thread but I have read chainsaw man and I don’t understand why the stamina and regeneration is treat as so good on this site. Like I distinctly remember the demons need continuous constant blood to do really anything. Power passed out once after two moves and when she healed from being pasted preceded to promptly die shortly afterwards. Denji instantly died from being split in half horizontally and needed to be revived, and both denji and power have passed out after a few seconds of fighting like 6 times. The only time denji has healed off limb lose consistently in a row is when his opponent is pretty much bleeding a pool of blood all over him. Which pretty much no opponent on this site would ever do unless denji is completely stomping then anyways.
 
Keeweed said:
Somewhat related to the thread but I have read chainsaw man and I don’t understand why the stamina and regeneration is treat as so good on this site. Like I distinctly remember the demons need continuous constant blood to do really anything. Power passed out once after two moves and when she healed from being pasted preceded to promptly die shortly afterwards. Denji instantly died from being split in half horizontally and needed to be revived, and both denji and power have passed out after a few seconds of fighting like 6 times. The only time denji has healed off limb lose consistently in a row is when his opponent is pretty much bleeding a pool of blood all over him. Which pretty much no opponent on this site would ever do unless denji is completely stomping then anyways
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just wanted to remind you, this isn't really Denji, just take a typical example like Sukuna and Yuji
 
Ozcantabak said:
Can't supes take the battle to space with his superior LS, (it's in character for him to do that as seen with zod and doomsday) where he would have an insane mobility advantage, that is of course if space exist in Amphoreus.
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Does Pochita have a counter for that?
 
How does Pochita stop Supes from yeeting him into space, completely gutting his mobility or incap.
Or just exhaling once he starts to lose to freeze him?
 
Rex_Eckles said:
In fairness, Clark only ever used his freezing-breath once.
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Nobody said it was a lead. But if he's literally losing, in danger, against a foe standard attacks don't work on, why wouldn't he exhale once?
GodEarh206 said:
Perhaps, Pochita would take off his heart, trying to land on the ground, while the heartless body would continue to hold Supe back with its chains.
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How does Pochi stop Supes from heat visioning his now vulnerable heart then? He can still do so when restrained after all, though, Pochita actually can't, Supes holds LS advantage.

Plus that only works if he's still within Earth's pull, given Supes' LS he very well might not be.
 
Chariot190 said:
Nobody said it was a lead. But if he's literally losing, in danger, against a foe standard attacks don't work on, why wouldn't he exhale once?

How does Pochi stop Supes from heat visioning his now vulnerable heart then? He can still do so when restrained after all, though, Pochita actually can't, Supes holds LS advantage.

Plus that only works if he's still within Earth's pull, given Supes' LS he very well might not be.
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Fair enough, though Clark had to do a little more than just exhale normally to do that.

The LS advantage is a good point though, and from what I remember Clark isn't afraid to use his LS or his Heat Vision (just ask Zod). He probably wouldn't have any reservations about killing Pochita, would he?

Also, Clark's dealt with and countered trained martial artists, so Pochita's combat skills probably wouldn't be a deciding factor. Supes' intelligence is also far greater, for what it's worth.
 
Chariot190 said:
He can still do so when restrained after all, though, Pochita actually can't, Supes holds LS advantage.
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Supe only has LS superior to Pochita when Supe starts to push his limits? I mean, his LS at first was Class K
 
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