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up to at least Moon level (Should be comparable to his variant who caused a large crater across a planet with an energy shockwave. Should also be comparable to his variant who blasted back Ant-Man and Stature in their giant form, as well as giant ants which were technologically as advanced as a Class II civilization), likely higher with Energy Manipulation (Should be comparable to his variant who redirected Xolum's energy blast, whose head contains a supernova, and who killed a creature several times larger than Giant-Man);
i honestly don’t know if he should have any scaling to his conqueror variant just bc they’re the same person

both of them r kang but HWR also considered himself to be the good one, he invented TVA tech which is far better than anything quantumania kang did, and he technically did beat all the other kangs in the multiversal war so idk why he should have the same ratings as his variant who has way different tech than him and tactics.

also i think it’s gonna make his profile look a little bit too cluttered. that’s just my opinion tho and i lowkey forgot much of the mcu so u could wait to see what other supporters have to say

cassandra nova was going to use the time ripper to destroy timelines one by one until there was nothing left but the void, and the multiverse is infinitely branching so it would be impossible for her to destroy the entire multiverse with just the machine, so i don’t think that would outright be Low 1-C. also the time ripper was made by a group of rogue TVA ppl after HWR’s death so i don’t know if he would have that as his weapon (correct me if i’m wrong)

alioth is at least 2-A, possibly Low 1-C since we don’t know how much time he would’ve took to end the multiversal war. so it should be at least 2-A, possibly Low 1-C, up to 1-C with preparation and technology (you didn’t have to list technology twice since you already listed it for the low complex multiversal justifications)

Athletic Human with Massively Hypersonic+combat and reaction speed (Comparable to his variant who keep up with and outrun Ant-Man, Wasp and Cassie Lang in their normal and miniature sizes)
u could also add where he can react to sylvie striking him but idk if this is bc he already knew everything she was gonna do at that point, but i guess what u have so far is fine
 
all of those abilities u listed come from magic users themselves using their magic, so i think everything except for magic should be removed since those would only work for the magic dampeners if there is proof that they do work on those specific abilities
Magic powers verbatim can't be used; in S2E4, Slyvie needed her magic to enchant Wolfe (which is mind manipulation), but the magic dampeners needed to be shut off for that to work. The only thing that the dampeners need is to be activated to stop magic powers.

Do you still agree that the other abilities should be removed?
 
Magic powers verbatim can't be used; in S2E4, Slyvie needed her magic to enchant Wolfe (which is mind manipulation), but the magic dampeners needed to be shut off for that to work. The only thing that the dampeners need is to be activated to stop magic powers.

Do you still agree that the other abilities should be removed?
enchanting wolfe would require her to use magic, so without magic she wouldn’t be able to cast any spell. like what i’m saying is that she needs magic to cast those spells (mind manipulation, illusions etc), so the magic dampeners working on all those abilities that come from the magic would just be power nullification working against only magic. say agatha harkness could prevent wanda from using her powers due to the runes being around, she wouldn’t have all those abilities of wanda listed for power nullification because she can block wanda’s chaos magic. it’s just power nullification. not like chaos, plot, reality warping, elemental, soul manipulation-negation or whatever. i think power nullification by itself is fine since that’s just what it’s expected to do to any ability
 
enchanting wolfe would require her to use magic, so without magic she wouldn’t be able to cast any spell. like what i’m saying is that she needs magic to cast those spells (mind manipulation, illusions etc), so the magic dampeners working on all those abilities that come from the magic would just be power nullification working against only magic. say agatha harkness could prevent wanda from using her powers due to the runes being around, she wouldn’t have all those abilities of wanda listed for power nullification because she can block wanda’s chaos magic. it’s just power nullification. not like chaos, plot, reality warping, elemental, soul manipulation-negation or whatever. i think power nullification by itself is fine since that’s just what it’s expected to do to any ability
Makes sense. I've applied that changes for that and Alioth / the Time Ripper with "at least 2-A, possibly Low 1-C"

The Time Ripper is a device made by a bunch of random TVA workers, and Ouroboros in the TVA comics (canon to the MCU) said that Paradox's Time Ripper was "sub-par". Do you think the Time Ripper should be added as optional equipment? OB is lesser to HWR's, so the latter can make it with ease.
 
i honestly don’t know if he should have any scaling to his conqueror variant just bc they’re the same person

both of them r kang but HWR also considered himself to be the good one, he invented TVA tech which is far better than anything quantumania kang did, and he technically did beat all the other kangs in the multiversal war so idk why he should have the same ratings as his variant who has way different tech than him and tactics.

also i think it’s gonna make his profile look a little bit too cluttered. that’s just my opinion tho and i lowkey forgot much of the mcu so u could wait to see what other supporters have to say
Technically, to some extent, all Kang variants are comparable. They all discovered the multiverse around the same time, suggesting similar scientific progress. In Quantumania, the entire Council of Kangs is shown with comparable armor and technology (such as the teleportation). The only notable difference is that He Who Remains (HWR) discovered Alioth and used it to end the war. I don’t see why HWR wouldn’t be capable of using the same technology as the other versions of himself, considering that, up until the multiversal war, they all shared the same level of technological advancement.

Then again, I could be saying a bunch of nonsense, but this is how I see it.
 
Technically, to some extent, all Kang variants are comparable. They all discovered the multiverse around the same time, suggesting similar scientific progress. In Quantumania, the entire Council of Kangs is shown with comparable armor and technology (such as the teleportation). The only notable difference is that He Who Remains (HWR) discovered Alioth and used it to end the war. I don’t see why HWR wouldn’t be capable of using the same technology as the other versions of himself, considering that, up until the multiversal war, they all shared the same level of technological advancement.

Then again, I could be saying a bunch of nonsense, but this is how I see it.
I agree with you and @FentyBeauty. I think the better option is to keep the "should include all the abilities from his variants" haxs, but remove the Moon Level scaling from his suit.

Do you agree with this or nah?
 
Makes sense. I've applied that changes for that and Alioth / the Time Ripper with "at least 2-A, possibly Low 1-C"

The Time Ripper is a device made by a bunch of random TVA workers, and Ouroboros in the TVA comics (canon to the MCU) said that Paradox's Time Ripper was "sub-par". Do you think the Time Ripper should be added as optional equipment? OB is lesser to HWR's, so the latter can make it with ease.
yea i think optional equipment is fine, and as long as the TVA comics is accepted as canon then there’s nothing wrong with that. i think the time ripper was made by multiple reset charges which is what the TVA has, so it can still be included in the profile
 
I agree with you and @FentyBeauty. I think the better option is to keep the "should include all the abilities from his variants" haxs, but remove the Moon Level scaling from his suit.

Do you agree with this or nah?
I agree, this way, we eliminate any risk of errors. At the end of the day, the moon-level scaling doesn’t matter much, considering he can reach multiversal levels with his technology anyways
 
I agree, this way, we eliminate any risk of errors. At the end of the day, the moon-level scaling doesn’t matter much, considering he can reach multiversal levels with his technology anyways
Exactly. Thank you guys for that 💯 🐐

Is there anything else on the page that needs a revision?
 
Tier: 9-A physically, up to at least 5-C, up to Low 1-C with technology | 1-C with preparation and technology

Key: Base | Technology | The Void at The End of Time
u can remove the technology part from his key since his tech is already included in his own skill set

Tier: 9-A physically, up to at least 2-A, possibly Low 1-C with Technology | 1-C with Preparation and Technology

Key: Base | The Void at The End of Time
i’m a little confused abt the void at the end of time key like is there a difference with how his technology operates when he’s outside vs when he’s in the void?

i think the profile looks good so far
 
u can remove the technology part from his key since his tech is already included in his own skill set


i’m a little confused abt the void at the end of time key like is there a difference with how his technology operates when he’s outside vs when he’s in the void?

i think the profile looks good so far
In the Void, he's immortal, acausal, and nigh-omniscient.

Similar to how Alioth got Acausality Type 1:
Acausality (Type 1; Exists in the Void at the end of time and isn't affected by the erasure of entire timelines throughout the multiverse)
 
i’m a little confused abt the void at the end of time key like is there a difference with how his technology operates when he’s outside vs when he’s in the void?
I think there might be a difference... mainly because of how the multiverse can be affected within the TVA and the Void at the End of Time. His technology operates on a higher-dimensional scope in those spaces, which changes how it interacts with the multiverse. That's how I see it
 
I think there might be a difference... mainly because of how the multiverse can be affected within the TVA and the Void at the End of Time. His technology operates on a higher-dimensional scope in those spaces, which changes how it interacts with the multiverse. That's how I see it
Pretty much this, because his TemPad sent Loki to a different version/history of the TVA (according to the Episode Report), meaning his technology scales similarly to Loki's Time Slipping (obviously without the Acausality Type 4 and level of control.)

And it was accepted that Time Slipping into the past of the TVA scale to 6-D.

He Who Remains is God Loki without the physical ability to control and move time.
 
Someone needs to update the MCU Cosmo page its outdated I think
I’m working on an updated MCU Cosmology sandbox and a CRT to upgrade it... hopefully it gets accepted. I’ll post it either today or tomorrow.
 
also idk if these should have regeneration-negation just because it can affect matter on that level and turn ppl into atoms

i think he could only have it if these things were shown to work against ppl who can heal from just a few atoms and also have it said that it prevents them from regenerating

and like idk if we give people who can straight up disintegrate things or shred ppl into atoms high regeneration-negation too, bc that’s just deconstruction/controlling matter i think

correct me if i’m wrong idk
 
also idk if these should have regeneration-negation just because it can affect matter on that level and turn ppl into atoms

i think he could only have it if these things were shown to work against ppl who can heal from just a few atoms and also have it said that it prevents them from regenerating

and like idk if we give people who can straight up disintegrate things or shred ppl into atoms high regeneration-negation too, bc that’s just deconstruction/controlling matter i think

correct me if i’m wrong idk
Fixed; I adjusted the changes.
 
Technically, to some extent, all Kang variants are comparable. They all discovered the multiverse around the same time, suggesting similar scientific progress. In Quantumania, the entire Council of Kangs is shown with comparable armor and technology (such as the teleportation). The only notable difference is that He Who Remains (HWR) discovered Alioth and used it to end the war. I don’t see why HWR wouldn’t be capable of using the same technology as the other versions of himself, considering that, up until the multiversal war, they all shared the same level of technological advancement.
Actually about that it’s stated the one in antman is the strongest kang and that HeWhoRemains actually fears that one specifically and that the council of kangs had to team up and jump that kang just to banish him
 
@Ptumri9, @darkphantom9805 & @FentyBeauty.
I checked back on previous Loki episodes, and some saw interesting scans, so I updated the Temporal Loom part of the page:
Also, since @Ptumri9's MCU cosmology appeal was agreed upon, HWR's peak technology would be updated to 7D.
Does this look good, or should some stuff be moved around?
 
Looks good.

The link to the evidence isn't working. I’m guessing it's because you uploaded the image directly to the wiki. To make it work, you need to temporarily add the image to a sandbox page for about a second, after that, the link should function properly.
This from the note should be removed entirely, as it is not canon to the MCU.
In the Technology P&A section, the term "dimensional" has a broken link and appears to be bugged.

The rest is fine.

Also do you mind checking dc dms? I have a few things I want to ask you.
 
Looks good.


The link to the evidence isn't working. I’m guessing it's because you uploaded the image directly to the wiki. To make it work, you need to temporarily add the image to a sandbox page for about a second, after that, the link should function properly.

This from the note should be removed entirely, as it is not canon to the MCU.

In the Technology P&A section, the term "dimensional" has a broken link and appears to be bugged.

The rest is fine.

Also do you mind checking dc dms? I have a few things I want to ask you.
1. Cool!
2. Fixed; let me know once it works on your end.
3. Gotcha; do you think the evidence of Loki attempting to use the stones on his own, and Mobius implying they wouldn't work at all, would be more than enough evidence?
4. Fixed.
5. Nice.
6. Oh shoot, my fault for not checking Discord; I'll check em now (y) (y)
 
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