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Cursed With Responsibility: Spider-Man (Insomniac) vs Yuji Itadori

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Speed equalized, both are Low 7-C, at their strongest and bloodlusted

Yuji: 7 (@That_moron2, @Bimbitesthedust, @AppleMaker, @LaserPrecision, @Rex_Eckles, @NotoriouSoda, @Gamecooob)

Spider-Man: 8 (@Catbowtie, @Arkenis, @Arkansalter2, @MintyBoi1 ,@Pyro9278, @Da3ggman, @Delusionaltx2, @CastoriceTheFifth)

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What value does Spidey and his webs scale to lifting strength wise?
 
Gonna vote Spiderman. Here's smarter than Yuji in combat, his spidey senses are gonna make this somewhat harder for Yuji to land hits, especially with the suits IA. His immortality and regen are gonna make it near impossible for Yuji to win as well. He'll just end up beating Yuji up till he dies or knocks out.
 
Lifting Strength aside, I’m mixed on this tbh.

While Yuji could use Domain Expansion and win pretty easily, it’s not really in-character for him to pop it first move or early in a fight.

Meanwhile, Spidey has plenty of options to uncap him with his various kinds of webs and gadgets, and has far greater mobility. He also has really good regen for someone who’s main attack is punching (with some cutting but those aren’t going to do too much more with the small AP Gap). Additionally, he has resistance to CE’s Mind manip and stuff, so even that isn’t really an option. Plus he’s way smarter, so likely Peter’s gonna be able to realize what he has to do to take Yuji out fast before the latter can.

Putting it all out, I’m voting spidey more times than not. Yuji could probably squeak out a few wins here and there with DE and Cleave spam, but I just don’t think it’s that likely.
 
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I'm saying that because Cleave and Domain Expansion are simply off the table. Yuji wouldn't unironically slice some random guy to bits unless in extremely specific circumstances
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He's willing to do some damage to someone if he's being pressured and especially if his opponent can regenerate
 
Yea slice spider man up not kill the guy like he's fighting Mahito or Sukuna. Dude even gave SUKUNA a chance to live. I don't think anyone here is going to agree that Yuji will pop Domain to win against a guy quipping at him and making jokes like it's not serious.
 
Catbowtie said:
Yea slice spider man up not kill the guy like he's fighting Mahito or Sukuna. Dude even gave SUKUNA a chance to live. I don't think anyone here is going to agree that Yuji will pop Domain to win against a guy quipping at him and making jokes like it's not serious.
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Fair enough
 
Gonna switch to Spidey, since it would be really out of character for Yuji to use his wincons against someone like Pete
 
If Yuji wouldn't even use his win-cons in-character, can't you like, make him bloodlusted or provide context/conditions that would make him incentivized to actually use his win-cons?
 
Let's be honest, this is a borderline Stomp. On paper, the fight is fair, but to be honest Spidey pieces Yuji up and webs him to a wall 25 hours and calls it a day.
 
Catbowtie said:
Let's be honest, this is a borderline Stomp. On paper, the fight is fair, but to be honest Spidey pieces Yuji up and webs him to a wall 25 hours and calls it a day.
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Could he even be incapped by webs for 25 hours? Yuji has both superior LS and Shrine to cut the webs around him to pieces. And IIRC, Yuji can wake up from being knocked out in minutes (Choso knocked Yuji out, and he was up fighting not much later)
 
LaserPrecision said:
Could he even be incapped by webs for 25 hours? Yuji has both superior LS and Shrine to cut the webs around him to pieces. And IIRC, Yuji can wake up from being knocked out in minutes (Choso knocked Yuji out, and he was up fighting not much later)
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mmm **** if I know. What's the LS difference?
 
I'm blind.

So Spidey just precogs beats up Yuji until he can't fight anymore.
 
Catbowtie said:
I'm blind.

So Spidey just precogs beats up Yuji until he can't fight anymore.
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Yuji has great stamina, insane pain tolerance, can wake up minutes after being knocked out and ready to fight, and has RCT. If he can do it, I imagine it'd be quite difficult.
 
Spidey can electrocute Yuji, burst Yuji's eardrums and effectively make Yuji deaf with sound manip, hide his presence with Smoke Manip, slow his perception to see Yuji's attacks at a snail's pace to give himself time to analyze the attack and dodge, precog basically negs Yuji by itself. Symbiote Suit has additional IA to protect Spidey. Low-Mid Regeneration makes Spidey impossible to kill without Yuji using Domain or Shrine on Spidey's head. For Spidey, I don't think it'll be too difficult to put Yuji to sleep.
 
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Spidey can electrocute Yuji, burst Yuji's eardrums and effectively make Yuji deaf with sound manip, hide his presence with Smoke Manip, slow his perception to see Yuji's attacks at a snail's pace to give himself time to analyze the attack and dodge, precog basically negs Yuji by itself. Symbiote Suit has additional IA to protect Spidey. Low-Mid Regeneration makes Spidey impossible to kill without Yuji using Domain or Shrine on Spidey's head. For Spidey, I don't think it'll be too difficult to put Yuji to sleep.
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I suppose that's fair. I think the OP should prolly add some conditions that makes Yuji willing to use Shrine or his DE. Think it'd be a lot closer that way. That said, I don't think causing ear damage is that bad, and Yuji can likely just undo that with RCT. And smoke isn't a problem since he can sense Spidey's CE (Yes, Spider-Man should be assumed to have CE by default).
 
Unironically, doesn't Yuji Stomp since he'll open with Domain frame 1 and slice Spidey to shreds? Or wouldn't Yuji undergo like 10 million binding vows to give himself buffs to beat Spidey?
 
Catbowtie said:
Unironically, doesn't Yuji Stomp since he'll open with Domain frame 1 and slice Spidey to shreds? Or wouldn't Yuji undergo like 10 million binding vows to give himself buffs to beat Spidey?
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Almost no sorcerer opens with domain even when bloodlusted because it burns a ton of energy. Binding vows require something in return as well, we've only seen Yuji make one combat Binding Vow against Sukuna, where he sacrificed the range of his dismantles for greater soul damage. Yuji can't just say, "I get stronger" and get stronger. He'd also have to waste time coming up with them. instead of fighting.
 
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