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A Wild Last Boss Appeared Discussion Thread

Sounds about right, only thing that was left, was just a combo of left over stuff. Can add upgrading unique skills to 1-A+ to the list.

As for when I will make this thread? Probably after I finish apply all the Isekai at Peace revisions, and after I get my finals out the way next week. So give or take a couple weeks.
Neat. Isekai at Peace has an edge over this in terms of how it much updates tbh. Maybe the awlba anime will add additional stuff? The author is also working on a new series. Called Mercedes and the waning moon if you wanna take a look at it. Kinda hoping somehow it will connect to awlba in the future.

Also some additions and/or reminders for when revisions start up again maybe:

Ruphas - Enhanced Aura (Fear Inducing, and Catstrophe Inducing) + Gravity Manipulation: Ruphas's existence itself was power itself. Made others unable to stand, the planet rotations to slow, the moon to descend, space to feel fear. That good stuff

Precognition(or Instinctive reaction?) - Gained a premonition of absolute death and retreated, before even knowing what an ability was. Retreating also is not a very Ruphas thing to do so..

Statistics Amplification addition(?) - Body hardening is a skill that hardens the user's body to increase their defense.

This allowed her to push through the dragon king ladies attack which can erase existence and space. So additional resistance to EE I guess?

Infinite Speed - I think this was planned, but infinite speed with Yed Prior. It speeds the target up, till they surpass the concept of time.

Alovenus Avatar (EoS ) - Invulnerability or Damage Reduction? Or some kindve acausality..: Despite the fact all Midgard inhabitants will always take -1 from damage due to the laws on them, Alovenus would have basically taken 0, or nothing at all. Goes completely against how the system works

NEP aspect additions:
Type 2 - All traces should include the concept of her HP, plus most reasons for the NEP are also reasons on high godly. Additionally, concepts don't exist for them, they make their own to layer over. So targeting that seems even more fundamental
Type 3(?) - Alovenus can manipulate consciousness, and as a mortal she maintained consciousness after essentially burning herself to nothing. So I think as a God, all traces involve the mind? Maybe...but ig an argument would be the mind isn't only just consciousness
Type 4(?) - Idk about this one. They can manipulate information and make their own concepts...but it probably wouldn't exist for them. So they probably don't have the information themselves

Age - Was gonna be marked as beyond the concept of time/inapplicable

I think all the mana shenanigans tied to alovenus(at least 4200 and up) should have logic manip attached to them tbh. Ik it was gone over in the crt, but their power is much more than law manipulation. Casually messes with logic, reason and contradictions. I'll maybe drop a sandbox explaining it

Gods - I think some abilities from this are listed under existence erasure, but are probably note worthy enough be listed as their own thing on the profiles? Like death manip, resistance negation, power null(the "always win regardless of the process" shenanigans I think would fall under her plot and illogical hax). Along with the conceptual destruction (like attacking/defending), and subjective reality which basically let's them use whatever ability they can imagine/want. Which is a confirmation obviously when saying they can do anything

Invulnerability - Settings are like children with absolute power, making anything they conceive true. So declaring something to be "invincible", like a barrier, actually becomes real. Or, like a weapon having a property that it can't be damaged unless overwritten. These can be applied to anything, including themselves. It's like invulnerability based on settings.

Immortality Type 8(?) - Alovenus legit could not be killed if she made it so with the setting that she is immortal. In otherwords, that immortality is reliant on the setting she made true, the setting needs to be overwritten to kill her.

I think some additions could be added for their RE/Plot. They have the mental fortitude to bounce back and overcome whatever their opponent does, becoming unaffected by settings. I think Ruphas shows a prime example of RE here, even if settings are used to make you invulnerable to stuff as well.

For plot manip, probably could be added onto that they are authors that write their own scenarios and plot points with settings in the p&a. Whatever they overwrite happens and such.
 
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I don't think the profiles even use any feats from the manga except to calc Aries size.

But yea no reason to separate canon.
 
Speaking of the manga, is it considered worth it to view the manga variants of these things during the re-reads? Like with both awlba and IAP?

Also, thoughts on the suggestions above? 🤔 Well I imagine will get around to this after those other revisions. But especially Alovenus's avatar intruiges me a little. The other God abilities are more on the side of profile improvements if anything. With a few actual new additions tho(also the AP descriptions for Gods are really nice, and also described their abilities well)
 
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It's already infamous in power scaling circles....

Give it consistent animation like that preview, I think it will do good.

Question is how far the anime will adapt? 12-13 episodes I can see like volume 4 or 5, 22-25, they can adapt the whole series.
 
Question is how far the anime will adapt? 12-13 episodes I can see like volume 4 or 5, 22-25, they can adapt the whole series.
You know, LN franchises are not known for having Anime adaptations finishing the story but rather, they are left hanging.......

So expect a second season at max, but after that an eternal hiatus
 
Was browsing around and found this image, time to update the verse page with a quality image

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I just hope it doesn't get very famous, things could get really bad if it does....
It's inevitable unfortunately. Well, even if does, if they don't finish it then it may dwindle in popularity overtime
It's already infamous in power scaling circles....

Give it consistent animation like that preview, I think it will do good.

Question is how far the anime will adapt? 12-13 episodes I can see like volume 4 or 5, 22-25, they can adapt the whole series.
Looks to cover up to volume 4, best case scenario is the Benet fight. They can wrap it up in like 3 seasons, unless they rush through the second to get to the end tbh
 
It's inevitable unfortunately. Well, even if does, if they don't finish it then it may dwindle in popularity overtime
Well, let's be positive. It could happen like ID or Villianess level 99, those are not that famous outside of Japan, or Trinity Seven even...
 
Well, let's be positive. It could happen like ID or Villianess level 99, those are not that famous outside of Japan, or Trinity Seven even...
True. Though I think this is the one of the only isekais to have a very muscle brained, female MC. I think we may see different results. A lot of the powerscaling comes from the last fight however, the rest of the series is actually pretty reasonable. So at least anime wouldn't get popular for that reason(but well..I can think of a few things having an anime will cause, if yk yk)

Like awlba handles destroying celestial bodies and such quitr well.. The more high leveled you get, the more unreasonable stuff you can destroy. Punching a star is already a very big thing in series, and it's only done like passed halfway through
 
True. Though I think this is the one of the only isekais to have a very muscle brained, female MC. I think we may see different results. A lot of the powerscaling comes from the last fight however, the rest of the series is actually pretty reasonable. So at least anime wouldn't get popular for that reason(but well..I can think of a few things having an anime will cause, if yk yk)

Like awlba handles destroying celestial bodies and such quitr well.. The more high leveled you get, the more unreasonable stuff you can destroy. Punching a star is already a very big thing in series, and it's only done like passed halfway through
Tbh, knowing how LN Anime adaptations never finish their anime, I can see the animated series left hanging on volume 3 or so, of the novel. And funnily enough, they could even change the story at some point, creating some sort of different timeline just like it happened with High School DXD Born, where the author had to write up a different set of Light novels apart from the main continuity, in this parallel works Issei is already old and has children with Xenovia, Rias and the rest of the harem
 
Tbh, knowing how LN Anime adaptations never finish their anime, I can see the animated series left hanging on volume 3 or so, of the novel. And funnily enough, they could even change the story at some point, creating some sort of different timeline just like it happened with High School DXD Born, where the author had to write up a different set of Light novels apart from the main continuity, in this parallel works Issei is already old and has children with Xenovia, Rias and the rest of the harem
They could diverge from the story a little. The intro fight is already longer than the novels. Tho awlba isn't as long, and has remained consistent across WN, LN and manga for the most part. If it's still this consistent, we can probably use feats from it though. With animation as good as this, it'll be nice to see either way

If it does continue passed like volume 4, probably will take a few years. I for one just wanna see how they animate the combat, like against orm and Benet. Since that's where Ruphas more shows her skill in like hand two hand and just in general
 
If it does continue passed like volume 4, probably will take a few years. I for one just wanna see how they animate the combat, like against orm and Benet. Since that's where Ruphas more shows her skill in like hand two hand and just in general
They will most likely downplay the fight heavily, if u know what I mean.
 
They really matched the voices as I imagined them to be. I'm actually looking forward to seeing this, I'm seeing a bit of CGI but the animation still looks nice. Maybe this really will get a s2

We also found a side novel of the author lol. It's canon to awlba, directly relating to one of the side stories. It's about Alovenus's isekai test run/subject, and how she is testing different worlds. His ability is hate gather, makes every attack hit him no matter what, and literally all his resistance (even to basic things like air, dust...) are set to zero...he has to build the resistance up. Alovenus really is just bad at her job dude and an airhead to the point it's dangerous.

Like even when something goes good for him in finding someone who likes him, she completely ruins it because the story needs to end in a comedic death for that world(they're also aware of "the first 190 main story chapters"...)

Edit: Another member started translating it (thanks chlammy), should be easier to read than MTL for anyone interested
 
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W trailer

And here is the thing I wrote out from that thread(mainly posted here to look at the reformatted abilities explaining stuff). Possibly for a future CRT. Since they basically overwrite everything at once, I felt it made sense to put it all together tbh. Only problem is it looks lengthy, so idk if it'd be a separate blog linked on the profile. Maybe as "settings manipulation". Or a sub key underneath goddess
 
Looks mostly fine, though I disagree with Gods in general having NEP Erasure, the statement about Ruphas erasing Alovenus only comes after they were fighting for a while, and reached the peak ie damaging the Endpoint, albeit both were still getting stronger, Ruphas was just doing it faster.

There is no evidence Benet or Orm who can only get to halfway as power as Alovenus and Ruphas can do that. In fact it is kinda suspect Alovenus can do it herself, its stated she may not even die by her own hand, so really only Ruphas should scale to that, though you could argue given a little time Alovenus would also have gotten strong enough to do it as well.
 
Looks mostly fine, though I disagree with Gods in general having NEP Erasure, the statement about Ruphas erasing Alovenus only comes after they were fighting for a while, and reached the peak ie damaging the Endpoint, albeit both were still getting stronger, Ruphas was just doing it faster.

There is no evidence Benet or Orm who can only get to halfway as power as Alovenus and Ruphas can do that. In fact it is kinda suspect Alovenus can do it herself, its stated she may not even die by her own hand, so really only Ruphas should scale to that, though you could argue given a little time Alovenus would also have gotten strong enough to do it as well
What do you think about the regeneration negation/immortality as well? I think being able to overwrite each other's immortality, and so on comes from the fact they believe they are stronger with settings so...

Ruphas could do it after getting stronger and "believing it". The NEP Erasure is a little more whacky since actually fully getting rid of Alovenus is difficult. Its separate from general immortality. Alovenus was like...one step behind Ruphas, plus she could continue fighting if she wanted. So imo she could do the same thing. Ruphas was just slightly faster. I think it could go:

Regeneration/immortality neg: Benet/Orm/Ruphas/Alovenus

NEP erasure: Ruphas/Alovenus

Obviously since this is all her power, they can do ridiculous stuff by believing it. So I guessed Gods could do that stuff if they want to like kill an opponent and overwrite immortality. But it just wouldn't work against the other two because their will is just crazy stronger. If not, it will just be the latter two with these powers.

If the NEP types look good though, what do you think on type 4? I feel like it would only work if you include information stuff in settings manipulation. I've also been questioned about Gods straight up having NEP aspect 2 due to being existences without concepts at all until they are made by them, but idk
 
Benet and Orm aren't on the same level as Alovenus and Ruphas, so i don't see why we should scale them. Yes this is all based on belief and that overwrites settings, Alovenus can regenerate from being erased conceptually, but nothing says Orm and Benet can implement that kind of setting, they aren't strong enough.

If you could show a feat of Benet or Orm having or erasing high godly regen it would work, but assuming they can do that stuff when it's only shown by stronger characters doesn't work.

Type 4 NEP seems vague for me. I mean technically the universe was described as data and software, so it's made of that. Gods exist in a place, that has nothing, no concept, fate, and probably information, so they naturally don't have that stuff, though Alovenus still regenerates even if the concept of HP is erased, which she already doesn't have..

If I am being honest, I don't care for these sorts of abilities like NEP, Transduality etc, so not going to argue for or against it, leave that to staff who like that stuff to evaluate.
 
Hmm, I guess these abilities will stick to Ruphas Alovenus then. My thought process was also the fact they have will to infinitely transcend their opponent, manipulate concepts, etc, so it'd be a little odd to not give them the regen of those aspects at least through this. But the logic behind what you're saying seems safer here.

In that case however, i guess Ruphas should also have similar NEP to Alovenus. So being erased leads to the same thing(its also on her profile for regen so makes sense here).

NEP itself is also a can of worms for me. Type 4 seems to go down the path of "Gods are naturally NEP" for having none of these concepts, laws, etc in the first place. It would be like they're overlaying these things over themselves to play around...but at a base they are beings where that stuff doesn't exist, nonexistent. Which honestly, may actually make sense. Without that, it'd be assumed they are also erasing information from the opponent. While it mostly makes up the universe. Gods are like the authors/devs beyond the computers and data, so I'll exclude type 4 for now.

I used this theory but it could also simply be "they don't have lower concepts, so they made ones for their level of being as Gods" or whatever. So I'll leave that alone too I think. Will update the sandbox with "logic manipulation" reasoning to show (I may have an interesting idea for their ability here)
 
Actually last nep question, should this include plot/narrative in like the type 5 NEP? I mean if they can erase all traces of each other I think the setting is involved in all this.

I think their existence erasure can include plot aspect, but whether not having it when Alovenus becomes nonexistent is another thing. I think they already tear apart each other's settings mid fight as proof, Ruphas does it to her at the end. So may be plausible buuut
 
Does Yed Posterior unconventionally get around low godly regen? If the target time is made into the negatives to erase them, they had no past. They never existed, probably includes the soul (like we can see pollux using their souls and stuff). Not that this would be listed on a profile, only yed prior for speed
 
Yea, that was a good first episode.

Maybe I should finally get around to doing that last CRT I was going to do.
 
Haven't been able to watch it yet, may have to wait the 7 days 😔. From what I've seen though, for a low budget it's pretty darn good

Also updated the sandbox to explain the nep, and logic manip. Tried a type 4 explanation, type 5 I added narrative because I don't think her NEP is from a setting. I think it's from her abstract existence coming into play, as a being of impossibility. But eh. Should AE be added to this? Might as well
 
Logic manipulation isn't an ability yet as far as I know so it's still just law manipulation.

Again don't care for NEP, but will be watching to see how it goes whenever its posted.
 
Logic manipulation isn't an ability yet as far as I know so it's still just law manipulation.

Again don't care for NEP, but will be watching to see how it goes whenever its posted.
I remember seeing logic manip in a crt you made for fate, but was it just not marked on her profile? Thought it would be worth mentioning in a crt for clarity or something. I'll just mark it as like enhanced law manip (logic). Does it at least look valid tho?

Side note finally watched the episode, it was actually really nice. Dina is adorable animated...
 
I remember seeing logic manip in a crt you made for fate, but was it just not marked on her profile? Thought it would be worth mentioning in a crt for clarity or something. I'll just mark it as like enhanced law manip (logic). Does it at least look valid tho?

Side note finally watched the episode, it was actually really nice. Dina is adorable animated...
Pegasus is a Fate fan, WTF?

I have never seen him comments in any Nasu thread
 
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