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The Eminence in the Shadows Discussion Thread

Shadowslaya! said:
2. Light Novel Cid's ap should be small planetary planetary via the blotting out the world statement in Vol 4.
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No.
Shadowslaya! said:
3. Cid's durability should also be small planetary and not large mountain level, don't see why his dura wouldn't scale to his ap...Same for his striking strength as well.
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Get his AP close to Country level first.
Shadowslaya! said:
But anime Cid should be MFTL+ and small planetary to solar system level with ease via his S2 ep12 IAM(in the game he has a similar feat btw).
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Only at High 6-A and it was calculated that way.
Shadowslaya! said:
I love how the profile is looking but I genuinely would like to see Cid being scales accurately and not just capped at island and HS+ right now.
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Currently, your "accuracy" is just your own belief, something that is all too common on TikTok or YouTube.
Shadowslaya! said:
No, his magic did not cover the country where does this come from bro. It says blotting out the world thrice.
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Bruh assuming you read the scan, it's clear that small world refers to the capital, which is covered by his magic, unless you mean they were in the center of the earth, that is to say in the earth's core, in the lava lol.
Shadowslaya! said:
As for the Alpha scans, can't you still argue infinite speed.
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No.
 
Digital_Franz said:
No.

Can you prove why it's not?

Get his AP close to Country level first.

Already got it above that.

Only at High 6-A and it was calculated that way.

That feat is definitely higher than multi continental, it's literally obvious by staring at it... I saw that calc and it had it at star level, bias is real.

Currently, your "accuracy" is just your own belief, something that is all too common on TikTok or YouTube.

Yeah you're right, except my own belief here is better than the shit that's on the profile rn.

Bruh assuming you read the scan, it's clear that small world refers to the capital, which is covered by his magic, unless you mean they were in the center of the earth, that is to say in the earth's core, in the lava lol.

No.
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State why it wouldn't be.
 
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The Eminence In Shadow: Canon

Soooooooo since my plan is to rework The Eminence In Shadow's profiles (Spoiler, still working on this) I think it's good to set some rules for what we consider canon, because right now the profile use LN, Manga and Anime without any real rule. Proposal: Main canon: Light Novel and Game...
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anyone here knows how to create gifs?

If so, can anyone get me an Archetype atomic gif?

for reference;

 
Anyone interested?

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Main character vs Random ass NPC

Cid Kagenou vs Naruto (Birth of the Ten-Tails’ Jinchūriki - Kurama Sage Mode) Rules: Speed is equalised. Starting Distance: 10 meters Location: Abandoned City No one has prep time Both have no prior knowledge Cid's AP: 1.727 Gigatons, 2,15 Gigatons with damage boost, 141 Petatons with I AM...
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Anyone interested?

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Shadow vs Fairy

Cid Kagenou vs Erza Scarlet (X784) Rules: Speed is NOT equalised. Starting Distance: 10 meters Location: Tournament of Power No one has prep time Erza has prior knowledge Cid's AP: 1.727 Gigatons, 2,15 Gigatons with damage boost, 141 Petatons with I AM ATOMIC Erza's AP: 3.6 Gigatons Cid's...
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The Eminence in Shadow - Calc replacement

This CRT was made with the purpose of replacing this calculation here; https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Godsatoshi23/Shadow_clears_the_Rain With this newer one https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zefra3011/The_Eminence_In_Shadow:_Cid_clears_the_rain Reasoning for it was...
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Few questions for this thread before trying to create CRTs, is the anime able to be used to update Cid's profile, or we not using that?

Such as speed of light calcs from the anime or Using his solar system wide flashbang?

Also, has anyone tried utilizing the Black Rose to upscale Cid? Considering that the black rose forced 2 universal space/times to collide and create a connection between them?
 
TheHyperGuy said:
Few questions for this thread before trying to create CRTs, is the anime able to be used to update Cid's profile, or we not using that?

Such as speed of light calcs from the anime or Using his solar system wide flashbang?

Also, has anyone tried utilizing the Black Rose to upscale Cid? Considering that the black rose forced 2 universal space/times to collide and create a connection between them?
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Anime is not considered as canon but you can use the game
 
TheHyperGuy said:
Few questions for this thread before trying to create CRTs, is the anime able to be used to update Cid's profile, or we not using that?

Such as speed of light calcs from the anime or Using his solar system wide flashbang?

Also, has anyone tried utilizing the Black Rose to upscale Cid? Considering that the black rose forced 2 universal space/times to collide and create a connection between them?
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Anime is a different canon to the manga.
 
Shadowslaya! said:
Ngl, this just seems like bias from you guys. I'm pretty damn sure the site allows animes to be used for other verses, get TEIS can't.

Like what's the problem?
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Well, personally I do know, the solar system feat, and also there are certain feats in the anime that doesn't occur in the manga or Novel, So i understand, but I saw a ton of calcs that use Anime which is accepted, so I don't understand why not either.
 
Shadowslaya! said:
Ngl, this just seems like bias from you guys. I'm pretty damn sure the site allows animes to be used for other verses, get TEIS can't.

Like what's the problem?
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From our canon page:
So for most manga series, that means the original manga is canonical, while the anime is not (since the anime is simply an adaptation of the manga made by others). Databooks are considered secondary canon since scans tend to contradict them. It should be noted that this is often evaluated on a case-by-case basis.
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Anime can be used if there are valid reasons for it, for EIS is even worse since the anime's scaling is very different from any other canon. We can't even use the "We need visuals to calc feats" because we have the manga for that.
TheHyperGuy said:
Also, has anyone tried utilizing the Black Rose to upscale Cid? Considering that the black rose forced 2 universal space/times to collide and create a connection between them?
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Why would Cid scale to the black rose?
TheHyperGuy said:
Well, personally I do know, the solar system feat, and also there are certain feats in the anime that doesn't occur in the manga or Novel, So i understand, but I saw a ton of calcs that use Anime which is accepted, so I don't understand why not either.
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They are accepted as calcs but not to be used for the profiles.

Anyway, I wrote an entire section in the verse page for the canon:

Canon​

The Light Novel is considered the main canon, followed by The Seven Shadows Chronicles Stories from the Game which adds contents that are missing in the LN. Manga and Web Novel (only up to Chapter 142) can be used as long as they follow the LN and only adds details to better scale feats from the serie. The Anime should be avoided completely as it has too many differences compared to any other canon, changing feats, fights and the setting, contradicting the original work many times. (See here)
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Zefra3011 said:
From our canon page:
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Anime did adapt from the novel, not the manga. But im not arguing for anome canonicity.


Zefra3011 said:
Why would Cid
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He shattered it.
Beta and Epsilon look up at the sky. There, they see the shattered Black Rose.
Not even it survived Shadow’s mighty attack.

They are accepted as calcs but not to be used for the profiles.
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But they are used in the profiles, if you go to Cid's profile, click the links, it brings you to the anime feat calcs.
 
TheHyperGuy said:
Anime did adapt from the novel, not the manga. But im not arguing for anome canonicity.



He shattered it.
Beta and Epsilon look up at the sky. There, they see the shattered Black Rose.
Not even it survived Shadow’s mighty attack.


But they are used in the profiles, if you go to Cid's profile, click the links, it brings you to the anime feat calcs.
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Been a while I'll check this out when I reach that part again. I think it's more like Space-time hax Maybe?
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Been a while I'll check this out when I reach that part again. I think it's more like Space-time hax Maybe?
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I mean, it wouldnt make sense since he never showed any hax prior that would allow him to do that other than destroying the Sanctuary. But wouldnt that be a hax based on Ap? Cause it denoted to his power of attack
 
TheHyperGuy said:
I mean, it wouldnt make sense since he never showed any hax prior that would allow him to do that other than destroying the Sanctuary. But wouldnt that be a hax based on Ap? Cause it denoted to his power of attack
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Well I'm re reading the series currently in Volume 2 so don't know when I'll catch upto that will see.
 
TheHyperGuy said:
Also, are you doing any veldanava debunks? I wanted to post this to you, but your private, and I don't want to spoil your spotlight.
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This is not the thread for Tensura 😐 anyway I don't have particular thread planned. Currently busy IRL and also there are tons of series pending to be read.
 
TheHyperGuy said:
I mean, it wouldnt make sense since he never showed any hax prior that would allow him to do that other than destroying the Sanctuary. But wouldnt that be a hax based on Ap? Cause it denoted to his power of attack
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Cid and Zeta showed in V5 to be able to create holes and forcefully enter inside pocket dimensions. He already has limited space-time manipulation on his profile.

EDIT: it's technically similar to the sanctuary though
 
Zefra3011 said:
Cid and Zeta showed in V5 to be able to create holes and forcefully enter inside pocket dimensions. He already has limited space-time manipulation on his profile.

EDIT: it's technically similar to the sanctuary though
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Fair, but even if he is able to do that, he destroyed the Black rose with pure power which was capable of forcing two universal space-times together.

So I dont understand why that wouldnt be 2-C even though its space time manip

EDIT: i also dont see enough justification for the manipulation of space/time, he has done every feat given because he broke his way in, not creating portals or entrances to these spaces.

Thats similar to Saitama in a way. I understand its hard to get an AP value out of break space, but if this is their rate Ap doing these feats, I see no reason to discredit the size of the thing or the durability of the thing being broke, which im trying to get black rose to 2-C
 
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Zefra3011 said:
From our canon page:

Anime can be used if there are valid reasons for it, for EIS is even worse since the anime's scaling is very different from any other canon. We can't even use the "We need visuals to calc feats" because we have the manga for that.

Why would Cid scale to the black rose?

They are accepted as calcs but not to be used for the profiles.

Anyway, I wrote an entire section in the verse page for the canon:
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Mid ngl, but oh well.
 
TheHyperGuy said:
I mean, it wouldnt make sense since he never showed any hax prior that would allow him to do that other than destroying the Sanctuary. But wouldnt that be a hax based on Ap? Cause it denoted to his power of attack
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There's this.

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The Eminence in Shadow: Manipulating space and time

A millisecond before Delta's attack hit her, Zeta's tail turned back into black smoke and disappeared.(Ln 5/0.1) Zeta After these words, an innumerable number of black swords appeared out of the black smoke. Swords swarmed around the Delta. — The Defining Technique Is A Thousand Swords. A...
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Alexia Midgar's profile rework

Very simple and straight forward CRT A reworked Alexia Midgar's profile with the help of @Zefra3011; https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:XxZetsuxX/Cid_Kagenou Things to note; She is wall level due to her durability feat, and the reason she scales to wall level on AP as well is...
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Cid Kagenou

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